========================================== Rare Fruit News Online - All Year for 2010 ========================================== Rare Fruit News Online - January 1, 2010 - AKA RFN201001A.txt _____________________________________________________________ <><><><> Notes In Passing - Leo <><><><> Happy 2010! Thanks to you for writing, thus enabling the newsletter to continue. I am persuaded that it fills a genuine need for the readers, but only if you keep sending mail to me. I have no explanation, but very few messages sent to me ever arrive, if the email address is from Gmail. So, if you regularly use Gmail and write to me, please write to my Gmail address mailto:rarefruit.manuel@Gmail.com and I'll be more likely to receive it. I don't know if it's because I am a Mac user, or that my server somehow doesn't like gmail, but more and more I find that if messages don't reach me, it's because they came from a Gmail address. Leo Manuel mailto:rarefruit.manuel@Gmail.com Tired of hearing my Monarch saga? There are four chrysalises that I know about, and at least a dozen large caterpillars that should form new ones any day. Then there at least one dozen more small ones. Stop by and I'll show you.... The mango fruit are almost gone. Except for the perpetually bearing Nam Doc Mai, all are seedlings. One seems to be so late that it becomes early the following year. I raised a question I hope someone can help me with: What is the difference between Mycorrhizae and Microrhizomes? <><><><><><><><><> Table Of Contents <><><><><><><><><> -> -> -> Messages follow the Table Of Contents <- <- <- <><><> New Subscribers <><><> New Subscriber-Marin County, CA Tammy Vong New Subscriber - York, England James Orr <><><> Readers Write <><><> New Subscriber-Marin County, CA Tammy Vong New Subscriber - York, England James Orr <><><><><><><><><> Readers Write<><><><><><><><><><> Mandarin Question - Heavy Crops Deadly To Tree? Darren To: Steve Wright Bare Root Season Beginning Walter Andersen Nursery Walter Andersen Nursery Ruby Red Grapefruit Question - Odd Taste David Lappen Update on my backyard here in South Florida Shirley Dellerson Re: Spanish Squash seeds Leo Manuel To: Vital Scherrer Growth Enhancer HB-101 From YK Flora Alice Snow How I Get Pineapple Fruit From My Plants Alice Snow When To Use My Gmail Address? When Writing From Gmail! Leo Manuel -> -> -> -> -> -> Messages <- <- <- <- <- <- <><><><><><><><> New Subscribers <><><><><><><><><> Subject: New Subscriber-Marin County, CA From: Tammy Vong Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 11:55:39 -0800 Hi There, My name is Tammy Vong Wright and I recently moved to Marin County. I am north of san francisco where we get some frost dates but also have warm summers. I am interested in pushing the limits in my garden and just planted a cherimoya but will add some kiwis, persimmon, pluot, etc. I am also growing some mangos in containers since i have an atrium that lets them have sunlight without getting too cold. I also have a Babcock peach and just ordered a baby crawford and an apple tree. I also just ordered a lychee and longan plant. I have a jackfruit seedling that I grew from seed and know i will have to find it a new home soon if it survives this winter. My parents live 2 blocks away from me so i grew up growing: figs, apricots, cherries, plums, oranges, grapefruit, feijoa, blackberries, meyer lemon, apples. here is my blog chronicling my first year gardening: http://www.marinmangos.com I would love to get your newsletter to learn as much as possible. Tammy mailto:tammy_vong@hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: New Subscriber - York, England From: James Orr Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:39:18 -0800 Hi My name is James Orr, and I'm from York, England. I'm currently studying Medicine at Imperial College London, so I'm in London most of the year, so alas I don't get time to tend to my fruit at home very often. I particularly enjoy kiwi fruit, I know it's not particularly rare, but I would say it's my favourite fruit. I also enjoy uglifruit and starfruit, both of which I try to get hold of from local markets, but they're not always available. At home we grow apples outside, and in our large greenhouse on the farm we currently grow oranges, a few grape vines, and mangoes, and next year I'm hoping to introduce a new fruit, but I've not yet decided, and some advice from the readers would be much appreciated. I was just wondering what readers suggest are the best (and most interesting) fruits to try to grow, but also that taste good, and they don't have to be beautiful to look at, because as we all know, uglifruit aren't nice to look at, but they taste awesome! I'd just like to know some easy fruit to grow for when I return, preferably those that are ripe over the summer period. Any temperature is fine, I've got the large greenhouse on my farm back home where I can grow the fruit. I'd like to have the newsletters, and any future emails sent to my proper email address, james.orr09@imperial.ac.uk, as this is my old email which I'm only using until the end of the day (because of some server work nonsense being undertaken by the university, but it sh). I really look forward to hearing from you and I'm really pleased that there is such a website dedicated to the preservation of the brilliant diversity on our planet. All the best, James Orr mailto:james.orr09@imperial.ac.uk Undergraduate Medical Student <><><><><><><><><> Readers Write<><><><><><><><><><> Subject: Subject: Mandarin Question - Heavy Crops Deadly To Tree? From: "Darren" Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:26:40 GMT To: Steve Wright Hello Steve, I live in North Charleston, South Carolina and have a great deal of experience with Citrus trees. At one time I had 109 varieties growing, due to the economic problems recently I have sold off many and I am down to 45. I have never heard of Satsumas dying from carbohydrate depletion, I suppose it is possible, but have not actually heard of it. Many of them are heavy alternate bearing. Meaning one year you will get a heavy fruit set and the next you will get a light set. You can counteract this by pruning off about half the fruit on your heavy years. This will also allow the fruit to be bigger. Also, Satsumas sometimes take a few years to start producing better fruit. That is why it took three years to get Tasty fruit. I am assuming they are grafted? Do you know onto what? There is a joke in the Citrus Industry, What you graft citrus onto is dependent on how you want them to die. I don't think you need to worry so much about the carbohydrate depletion. Just make sure you feed and water well. They are heavy Nitrogen feeders. Give it plenty of sunlight. You also didn't mention whether they are in pots or the ground? I was assuming in the ground. I read recently where the Citrus Greening disease has been found on the West Coast of Mexico, about 750 miles from the California border. THAT my friend is what you need to be concerned with. Hope this helps and gives you some relief. Darren Sheriff mailto:cactusmusic@netzero.net North Charleston, SC Zone 8 > Subject: Mandarin Question - Heavy Crops Deadly To Tree? > From: STEVE WRIGHT > Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 19:20:51 -0800 (PST) > > > Leo and fellow fruit growers, > > After about three years, my mandarin trees - an Owari Satsuma, > Dancy, and Murcott - are finally producing very tasty fruit. > The Dancy is partcularly loaded, and I've read that when > mandarins have heavy crops, they can die from carbohydrate > depletion. What exactly is it? Is it something I should > expect and just accept? Can I prevent it and how? I would > appreciate any information people can share. I live fittingly > enough, in Orange Vale, CA, a suburb northeast of Sacramento. > We are in the Sunset zone 9. ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Bare Root Season Beginning Walter Andersen Nursery From: Walter Andersen Nursery Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:02:05 -0500 (EST) Dear LEO MANUEL, Bare root season has begun in both stores with the arrival of some of the early season plants. You will find Strawberries, Black Berries, Raspberries, Boysenberries, Young Berries, Pomegranates, Figs, Onions, Artichokes, Rhubarb, Horseradish, and Asparagus are all available. Bare-root roses have started arriving and will be going into stock soon! Check with the stores to see what is currently available! We at Walter Andersen Nursery would like to thank all of you for your patronage over the past year. We certainly appreciate your business and we work hard to earn it. As the Holidays approach we wish you and yours the most joyous of Holiday Seasons and a happy and prosperous New Year! Sincerely, Ken Andersen mailto:walterandersennursery@yahoo.com San Diego 3642 Enterprise St. San Diego, CA 92110 619-224-8271 Hours 8:00 AM - 5:00 PM 7 Days Poway 12755 Danielson Ct. Poway, CA 92064 858-513-4900 Hours 9:00 AM - 5:00 PM 7 Days On the Web www.walterandersen.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Ruby Red Grapefruit Question - Odd Taste From: "David Lappen" Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 12:11:14 -0800 I have a question for the vast knowledge base that this list reaches. We have had a ruby red grapefruit tree for about 12 years. It is very productive and the grapefruits have gotten sweeter each year. The problem is that there is a intense aftertaste that makes the fruit almost uneatable. The taste starts off sweet, but if you have more than two slices or wait a couple of minutes, you get a metallic very bitter taste in your mouth that lasts for 1/2 hour. We keep hoping that next year will be better. So the question is whether anyone knows of this and whether it could be caused by some chemical imbalance, or whether we should just cut down this tree and use the space for something better? Thanks, David Lappen mailto:david@lappen.us ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Update on my backyard here in South Florida From: Shirley Dellerson Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 15:12:29 -0500 Hi Leo: The loquat has fruit - second year. I expect it to be ready by February, although with this very warm weather we're having, who knows. Ate the fruit out of hand last year. Will attempt jelly making this time around. Been sharing my avocados with my neighbors, friends, relatives and squirrels. I grew this tree from a seed over 25 years ago and in gratitude it gifts me with 3 to 5 pound, smooth skinned, yummy fruits every year which we eat from November through February. The meat is smooth and creamy with a slight nutty flavor. The squirrels have also been running off with my pecans. This tree only fruits for me every few years, but I don't mind sharing. When the macadamia fruits, I have an ongoing battle with the critters. The Barbados cherry provides me with fruit every month all year long. My soursop appeared to be dying so I purchased another one. My original one keeps holding on though - Hopefully she can survive whatever is ailing her. I couldn't find any mention of diseases or pests on the internet. So now I have two - which is a great thing. Mangoes: Both Beverly and Hayden fed us last summer. The crops are not huge but oh so delicious. Happy Healthy New Year to all. Thanks for all your hard work Leo. Regards Shirley mailto:shaindy@mindspring.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Re: Spanish Squash seeds Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:48:42 -0800 From: Leo Manuel To: Vital Scherrer Hi Vital I have found a possible source of the Spanish Squash. The original seeds came from Tina Silber, which is why I gave them her name as well. However, my crop failed with the vine dying with the single squash unripe. I'll try again next year. The other squash is Tahitian squash, seeds of which are sometimes available from commercial sources. The squash is very sweet, and the shape is rather long and cylindrical except for a bulb at one end where the seeds are. The cylindrical portion is solid flesh, and you can cut slices off to cook, leaving the remainder for another several days. It's delicious and almost as sweet as the Spanish one. The Yahoo rarefruit group started just after I started my group. Thanks for writing! Leo Vital Scherrer wrote: > Subject: RE: Spanish Squash seeds > From: Vital Scherrer > To: Leo Manuel > Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:15:05 +0000 > > > Olá Leo, > > I read about your search for the "Tina Silber's Spanish > Squash", and am wondering whether you were ever able to get > these seeds again - and is this its official name? > > And what about the tropical squash or pumpkin that was > mentioned on your news not too long ago, does this have a > particular name, and can you recommend a mail order seed > supplier? > > BTW, have you ever come across the rarefruit yahoo group at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rarefruit > > They seem to be very active. Though most members seem to be > from Florida. One needs to join them to get access to their > archives. Their topics are mostly about strictly tropical > fruit - thus unfortunately not very useful for me. > > There is also a not very active CoolFruit yahoo group for any > fruits cooler than semi-tropical. I joined them. Of course I > will still remain on your online news. > > A healthy and happy new year! > > Vital mailto:vital233@hotmail.com > > Madeira island (Portugal) 33ºN Zone 10b Sunset H1 ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Growth Enhancer HB-101 From YK Flora Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:17:49 -0800 From: Alice Snow Leo A while back I got a free sample of a growth enhancer called HB-101, from YK Flora. See http://www.hb-101.com/ This year I used it on several plants of mine that looked pretty bad, from some cold weather exposure. I brought them into the house, put them on a heating pad, with grow lamps, and used some HB-101 along with some light fertilizer. They are doing much better. Has anyone else had any positive or negative results using HB-101? It's kinda expensive, but if it works it is worth it. Home Depot has another growth enhancer called THRIVE. It is expensive too. I also wonder if anyone has any results to share on this growth enhancer. I am trying to nurse a black pepper vine I brought back from Hawaii that I am trying to get through this winter season. More questions: I would like to use some /microrhizome/s. Is it true that the microrhizome/ you use should come from your geographical area? If so, where are they sold in the San Diego area? Thank you for your good works, Leo. We all really appreciate it. Alice Snow, Spring Valley, CA mailto:rhsnowsr@cox.net [I am confused about the difference between microrhizome and mycorrhizae. Would someone explain to me, please? - Leo] ------------------------------------------------ Subject: How I Get Pineapple Fruit From My Plants Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:19:23 -0800 From: Alice Snow Leo For years I had nice pineapple plants but no fruit. I could never get them to produce a pineapple fruit. Several years ago I started using a couple of teaspoons of Osmocote fertilizer, placed in the top "cup" and leaves of my pineapple plants, and now I have some of the nicest, sweetest, pineapple fruits you could ever hope for. Osmocote is not organic, but it is slow release. I use the bloom kind of Osmocote. I keep the "cup" damp for a couple of weeks to keep it from burning the "cup" part of the plant. I hope this will help someone with their attempt to get pineapple plants to fruit. Alice Snow mailto:rhsnowsr@cox.net Spring Valley, CA (Near San Diego) http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&q=osmocote+fertilizer&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=ZbE5S_OPO4WMtAPtge1f&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&ct=title&resnum=3&ved=0CCMQrQQwAg ------------------------------------------------ Subject: When To Use My Gmail Address? When Writing From Gmail! Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:19:23 -0800 From: Leo Manuel I have no explanation, but very few messages sent to me ever arrive, if the email address is from Gmail. So, if you regularly use Gmail and write to me, please write to my Gmail address mailto:rarefruit.manuel@Gmail.com and I'll be more likely to receive it. I don't know if it's because I am a Mac user, or that my server somehow doesn't like gmail, but more and more I find that if messages don't reach me, it's because they came from a Gmail address. Leo Manuel mailto:rarefruit.manuel@Gmail.com <><><><> Announcements And Web Pages To Consider <><><><> San Diego Chapter California Rare Fruit Growers Meeting: Where: Casa del Prado Building Room 101, Balboa Park When: Fourth Wednesday Of Each Month (Except December) See: http://www.crfgsandiego.org http://nc.crfgsandiego.org For North County CRFG Chapter Meeting http://www.crfg.org/chapters.html For information about ALL CRFG chapters. <> Agricultural Research Service (ARS) ars>news@arsgrin.gov <> http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/thelatest.htm. None this time <><><><><><><><><> End of RFN201001A.txt <><><><><><><><><><> Rare Fruit News Online - January 15, 2010 - AKA RFN201001B.txt _____________________________________________________________ <><><><> Notes In Passing - Leo <><><><> Great San Diego Warm Winter Continues - Monarchs keep hatching - Mango fruit about all gone (rats helping them depart!) By the way, if you decide to use rat bait, there is only one kind that rats in my yard prefer to fruit - "Real Kill" Rat & Mouse Killer, All Weather Bars. Our Home Depot sells a large bag. Bars have a hole in the middle where you should secure them so they stay in place. I don't like to use poison, but I haven't found anything else that works. If you live near San Diego and want a cheap source of plastic planting pots, see the letter from Paul Fisher below. The source is "The Pinery" near Wild Animal Park. Call before going. <><><><><><><><><> Table Of Contents <><><><><><><><><> -> -> -> Messages follow the Table Of Contents <- <- <- <><><> New Subscribers <><><> New Subscriber­San Diego-Interested in Pitaya & Pitangas Jennifer Conner New Subscriber-Concord CA Ersten Imaoka <><><> Readers Write <><><> Nursery Pots Cheap At The Pinery-San Diego County Paul Fisher Seagrape information wanted Michael White Ruby Red Grapefruit Question - Odd Taste Darren To: david@lappen.us Fruit Pictures From My Recent Travels To Brazil Oscar Jaitt Theft alert in nurseries, farms, and ranches CE San Diego Clarifying Terms: Micorrhizome, mycorrhizae Maurice Looking for Feijoa and Passiflora edulis var Paul Ecke Nancy Sajben Re: Looking for Guava: Feijoa sellowiana Nazemetz Cielo To: Nancy Sajben FYI: Cheap bareroot fruit trees Cielo & Kevin Starfruit trees that don't fruit Judi Steinman Boabob trees? Natureboy CRFG San Diego North County Newsletter. secetary nickerson Florida Cold weather blues 2010 CA Small Farm Conference-Early registration. CE San Diego UCNFA (CORF) Grower Education Program for January 2010 Leo Manuel New Edition of Calif Agriculture January-March 2010 CalAgGuest -> -> -> -> -> -> Messages <- <- <- <- <- <- <><><><><><><><> New Subscribers <><><><><><><><><> Subject: New Subscriber­San Diego-Interested in Pitaya & Pitangas From: "Jennifer Conner" Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 08:40:59 -0800 Hi, I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter. My name is Jennifer Friedl, and my husband and I live in the Clairemont area. We currently have several fruit trees on our property, but we've only had luck with passionfruits, rio grand cherry, bananas, and apples. Due to our proximity to La Jolla and a canyon, we are still trying to figure out what to grow and how to grow it. We are very interested in trying to grow some pitaya and surinam cherries. We would like learn about other rare fruits we might be able to grow with our limited experience and climate. We would like to hear from persons who are selling pitaya cuttings or plants or persons who have suggestions for what rare fruits they have managed to grown in the Clairemont area. We can be reached at luccafava@yahoo.com. Thanks, Jenna mailto:jconner@bhhc.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: New Subscriber-Concord CA From: Ersten Imaoka Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 09:21:25 -0800 (PST) Hi, I am Ersten Imaoka, in Concord, CA Sunset Zone 9b I am now growing: apple, apricot, peach, various citrus, pomegranate, jujube, plum, pluot, red guava, loquat, asian pear, pineapple guava, goji berry, surinam cherry Fruit trees I want to grow: cherimoya, avocado, white sapote, cherry of the Rio Grande, jaboticaba, grumichama, passion fruit About myself: lifetime gardener, member of Californina Rare Fruit Growers, Secretary of Contra Costa County Master Gardeners, docent at Ruth Bancroft Garden Questions to be answered by newsletter readers: What espaliering techniques work for you Ersten Imaoka mailto:ersten3@yahoo.com <><><><><><><><><> Readers Write<><><><><><><><><><> Subject: Nursery Pots Cheap At The Pinery-San Diego County From: Paul Fisher Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:59:58 EST Leo, they are selling over 890,000 containers. These include 1, 2, 3, 5, and 7 gallon sizes. Their number is 760-644-0619. Be sure to call before coming, as they are not always at the site. Prices range from a few cents to a few dollars each, and depends on the quantity desired. Thanks, Paul mailto:mageethor@aol.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Seagrape information wanted From: Michael White Date: Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 3:36 PM I purchased a seagrape from Naples, Fl last summer while vacationing. I know very little about them except that the fruit is edible and is used in jellies. It seems to like the care it is receiving and even under cool conditions it continues to grow. This upcoming Spring/Summer I would like to propagate it, I have read that it can be done via cuttings. I was wondering if anyone has experience with this. It may be easy to root, but I hate to "waste" a branch in a learning curve process. Also any additional info would be quite enlightening and appreciated. Michael White Florence, KY zone 6 mailto:ueberwinden@gmail.com http://www.midwestaquaticsandexotics.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Ruby Red Grapefruit Question - Odd Taste From: "Darren" Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 01:24:06 GMT To: david@lappen.us David, This is an unusual question. I have a couple of theories: Being that the fruit is sweet, I am assuming it is ripe....or is it? Does the metallic taste tend to disappear the later in the season fruit is picked? Next, have you changed your fertilizer or done anything different in your yard around the tree? Maybe put a shed, used any kind of metal stakes. Have you had the soil tested for any mineral/metals? Is the entire family having this problem, or is it just you? Have you changed any kind of medication or foods/eating habits since this started? I haven't heard of anything like this, like I said these are just some theories. Hopefully someone will have a better idea or will have heard of this before. Good Luck! Darren mailto:cactusmusic@netzero.com http://www.lowcountrypowerbrass.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Fruit Pictures From My Recent Travels To Brazil From: Oscar Jaitt Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 14:16:30 -1000 Hi Leo, I recently travelled to Brazil and thought some of your readers might enjoy seeing these photos. Oscar Jaitt Me next to large jaboticaba tree at Anestor Mezzono’Äôs farm in Floranapolis: http://www.fruitlovers.com/Gallery1/JaboticabaGiantTree.jpg Marco Lacerda next to large black sapote tree at Rio Botanical garden: http://www.fruitlovers.com/Gallery1/BlackSapoteGiantTree.jpg Giant jackfruit tree at Rio Botanical Garden: http://www.fruitlovers.com/Gallery1/JackfruitTreeGiant.jpg Anacardium giganteum tree trunk at Rio Botanical Garden: http://www.fruitlovers.com/Gallery1/AnacardiumGiganteumTree.jpg Anacardium giganteum fruits at Bosque Municipal, Belem: http://www.fruitlovers.com/Gallery1/AnacardiumGiganteumFruit.jpg Campomanesia phaea (Cambuci) tree at Rio Botanical Garden, planted in 1919: http://www.fruitlovers.com/Gallery1/CampomanesiaPhaeaTree.jpg Giant fruit of Passiflora edulis flavicarpa. Fruits can reach 500 grams. These are quite common in Brazil supermarkets: http://www.fruitlovers.com/Gallery1/ PassifloraEdulisFlavicarpaGiantFruit.jpg Happy 2010 to everyone. Paul Fisher mailto:mageethor@aol.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Theft alert in nurseries, farms, and ranches From: "CE San Diego" Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 09:41:56 -0800 Hello everyone, We returned from the holidays today and wanted to get this theft message out to you from Jackie Cruz. The theft in Los Olivos appears to have occurred on December 28, 2009. Ramiro Lobo mailto:relobo@ucdavis.edu Floriculture and Nursery Farm Advisor Agriculture deputies in San Luis Obispo, Santa Barbara and Ventura counties are experiencing an increase in agriculture equipment and construction site thefts. It appears there are some similarities to pass theft reports in our county. Ventura County has reason to believe that their recent rural burglaries are tied to an organized group. It appears the criminal crew is now possibly working their way back down the coast to our area as they just hit a construction site at a school off State Hwy 154 in Los Olivos last night. Up in Los Olivos they took small hand tools, chain saws, and air compressors. They use bolt cutters to get into storage containers (connex boxes, shipping containers) on ranches and rural operations. Everything is fair game, but they love pumps, generators, welders, air compressors, spray rigs. Double up on your farm and ranch security, report any suspicious persons to your local law enforcement agency and be safe.. Jackie Cruz San Diego Sheriff Department Ag Crime Prevention ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Clarifying Terms: Micorrhizome, mycorrhizae From: Maurice Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 13:23:19 EST Hi Leo; This is the explanation given me by one RFC member... Micorrhizome is when a seedling is wholly dependent of fungi or mycorrhizae to provide it with nutrients Mycorrhizae is the expensive fungi sold by some companies that many plants need to thrive Maurice mailto:CHINO228@aol.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Looking for Feijoa and Passiflora edulis var Paul Ecke From: Nancy Sajben Date: Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 11:20 PM I'm looking for 5-gal Feijoa sellowiana "Nazemetz" and Passiflora edulis var Paul Ecke two 1-gal. I would be grateful for information on how to find these near San Diego. Thank you. Nancy Sajben 858-622-0500 mailto:sierras.11@gmail.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Re: Looking for Guava: Feijoa sellowiana "Nazemetz" From: Cielo Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 22:02:57 -0800 (PST) To: Nancy Sajben Hi Nancy, I talked w/ a couple of nurserymen today inquiring about nazemetz. Steve Spangler of Exotica Rare Fruit Nursery in Vista may have it. You can reach him at 760-724-9093. David Archer of the Bonita Creek Nursery was wondering about your preference to nazemetz. Of course, he'd tell you he'd recommend another variety like Genesis. I have the typical Home Depot variety "coolidge," which is a very productive fruit tree where I live in Point Loma. Below is a short list of fruit nurseries in the SD County that may carry it; some of them are listed in the CRFG website. I hope this helps. Cielo mailto:cielo_g@yahoo.com Fruit Tree Nurseries J.D. Andersen Nursery 2790 Marvinga Lane, Fallbrook, CA 92028 VOICE: 949-361-3652 FAX: 949-492-2198 E-MAIL: jdapalms@cox.net WEBSITE: www.jdandersen.com Atkins Nursery, Inc. 3129 Reche Road, Fallbrook, CA 92028 VOICE: 760-728-1610, 800-928-1610 FAX: 760-728-8069 California Tropical Fruit Tree Nursery 2081 Elvado Road, Vista, CA 92084 VOICE: 760-434-5085 WEBSITE: www.tropicalfruittrees.com Exotica Nursery Inc 2508-B East Vista Way, Vista, CA 92083 VOICE: 760-724-9093 FAX: 760-940-0914 Ong Nursery 2528 Crandall Drive, San Diego, CA 92111 858-277-8167 Kniffing Discount Nursery El Cajon 619-561-0611 Green Thumb Nursery 1019 San Marcos Blvd., San Marcos 760.744.3822 Maddox Nursery 1163 Ranger Rd. Fallbrook, CA 92028 (760)728-7172 ------------------------------------------------ Subject: FYI: Cheap bareroot fruit trees From: Cielo & Kevin Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 08:19:53 -0800 (PST) FYI if you're in the market for bare root fruit trees. Joy wants to pass on this information to you. Cielo mailto:cielo_g@yahoo.com --- On Mon, 1/4/10, JOY BLADYKAS wrote: From: JOY BLADYKAS Subject: cheap bareroot fruit trees To: "cielo crfg" Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 10:31 PM Costco on Market St. off interstate 15 has bareroot fruit trees and roses. The trees are 10.99 each. The varieties are: apricot-katy, goldkist, titton, moorpark, royal blenheim peach- red heaven, elbertal plum-mariposa I bought a goldkist. Let me know if one of the other varieties are better for the college area. Treasurer Joy mailto:joybladykas@yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Starfruit trees that don't fruit From: Judi Steinman Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 01:55:39 -0800 (PST) Aloha Leo and happy new year, I have a 5 or 6 year old starfruit tree here in Laupahoehoe on Hawai`i Island, elevation around 1200 feet. After struggling for most of its life it finally produces lots of nice leaves but no blossoms or fruit. It did blossom when I first got it as a gift but I think it was stressed in the pot it came in. Now its in the ground. Any suggestions on what kind of fertilizer will help it blossom and produce fruit? Mahalo, Judi mailto:pbjxs@yahoo.com [I have learned to be cautious about fertilizing a young tree, as it caused many to die. What other trees fruit for you in the same location? It may just be a poor speciman. Do you know other people who are successful with the same variety of starfruit? Hopefully, other readers will respond with helpful suggestions.... Leo] ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Boabob trees From: "Natureboy" Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 20:22:43 -0800 Hi Leo, Mike McCright here from CRFG. Do you happen to know if baobob trees will grow here? Mike McCright mailto:natureboy@gotsky.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: CRFG San Diego North County Newsletter. From: secetary nickerson Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 18:59:40 -0800 (PST) Jan. Meeting-We will meet Jan. 15th at 7PM in room 7003 of the Hort. Bldg. at MCC this is our annual scion exchange meeting. Bring scions for grafting, cuttings for rooting, bare root plants, and seeds to share. You might also want to bring pruning shears, masking tape & marking pens to label the scions you collect, and large baggies to carry them home in so they can go directly to you refrigerator. The following tips on collecting and preparing scions may be useful. 20010 Calendar Meetings are usually held the 3rd Friday, 7 PM at Mira Costa College (MCC) One Bernard Dr., Oceanside in Room 7003 of the Horticultural Bldg... Jan. 15th 7:00 PM Room 7003 Hort. Bldg. (MCC) Scion Exchange Harry Nickerson ------------------------------------------------ Subject: For RFNO: Cold weather blues From: Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 23:44:33 -0500 It's January 9th and I'm here in central Florida, looking at my thermometers, which read an air temperature of 28 degrees and a plant surface temperature of 23 degrees (due to excellent radiational cooling). This entire week has been full of freeze watches and warnings and this morning there was even sleet falling. We have another two nights of freezing weather ahead. This is the worst weather I've experienced in 15 years of living here, and it's quite depressing. Even my jaboticaba and macadamia nut trees are at risk. I'll find out soon if the freeze-protection system I have relied on for all these years to protect my lychee trees can handle this extreme weather. It almost makes me wish I were growing deciduous trees. Never thought I'd say that. Ollie Patterson mailto:ollie_patterson@embarqmail.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: 2010 CA Small Farm Conference-Early registration. From: "CE San Diego" Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 09:04:01 -0800 Save $35 by registering early for the 2010 California Small Farm Conference! Hello everyone, You can save $35 off the regular registration price. Early bird deadline is Friday, January 15. Details below. Best regards, Ramiro Lobo mailto:relobo@ucdavis.edu Earlybird Deadline for Conference Registration is Friday, January 15. Save $45 per person by registering today! The conference registration fee is $100 if paid by January 15, 2010 and $135 if paid after January 15, 2010. Your registration includes the keynote address by USDA Undersecretary Kathleen Merrigan (invited) and the workshops. In addition, if you register by January 15, you can add the Meal Savings Package which includes the Tasting Reception, Networking Lunch, Banquet Dinner with address by Russ Parsons of the LA Times, and Breakfast with presentation by Josh Viertel of Slow Food USA, all for $95. A savings of $10 versus purschasing tickets for the meal functions separately. There are three ways to register: * Register online. The online registration system allows you to register for the conference, reserve your Short Course and select your meals. You can pay online with a major credit card and get an instant confirmation of payment and registration. * Download a conference registration form. Download a registration form to complete and return by mail to PO Box 73614, Davis CA 95617 or by fax to 1-888-712-4188. You can include a credit card number for payment of conference registration fees, or send a check payable to California Small Farm Conference. You will receive a confirmation of payment and registration within 14 days. The registration form is in PDF format. To access it you must have Adobe's Acrobat Reader installed. You can download Acrobat Reader for free. * Request a conference registration form. Call 1-888-712-4188, use the online contact form, or write to us at PO Box 73614, Davis CA 95617 to request a conference registration form be sent to you in the mail. You can complete the registration form and return it by mail or fax. You can include a credit card number for payment of conference registration fees, or send a check payable to California Small Farm Conference. You will receive a confirmation of payment and registration within 14 days. Important things to Remember: * Short Courses and all meals are ticketed events. Your tickets will be available for you to pick up at the conference registration desk at the start of the conference. * Registration does not include overnight accommodations. You are responsible for making your own hotel reservations at the Marriott Del Mar. * Scholarships are available for farmers, farmers' market managers and agriculture students. Scholarships include conference registration, the Meals Savings Package, and a discounted short course. Depending on the distanced traveled to the conference, the scholarship may also include a room at the Marriott Del Mar and a travel stipend. The deadline to apply for a scholarship for the 2010 conference has passed. The scholarship application deadline was January 8, 2010. Cancellation Policy: A full refund of registration, short course and meal fees will be made if written cancellation notice is received before January 15, 2010. A 50% refund will be made if written cancellation notice is received by February 11, 2010. No refunds will be given after February 11, 2010. Requests for cancellations and refunds must be in writing.. Full conference information: www.californiafarmconference.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: UCNFA (CORF) Grower Education Program for January 2010 From: Leo Manuel Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 08:09:53 -0800 Hi all, I just wanted to remind you about a nationally advertised program that is hosted by the UC Floriculture and Nursery Alliance (formerly known as CORF) and the Water Education Alliance for Horticulture. This program brings everyone up to date on the latest issues with respect to water recycling, testing, and treatment, and has been well received in other parts of the country. The program (see the agenda below) will be at the Center for Horticulture Research in Vista on January 28-29. The seating is limited so I encourage you to use the registration link below and sign up today. The flyer containing agenda, tour information, registration form and lodging is also attached. James Bethke mailto:jabethke@ucdavis.edu To register online, through the mail, or by fax, go to web page: University of California Nursery and Floriculture Alliance - January 28-29, 2010 Water Recycling and Treatment - Vista CA at http://groups.ucanr.org/UCNFA/Water%5FRecycling%5Fand%5FTreatment/ If you want to know more about the University of California Nursery and Floriculture Alliance or Water Education Alliance for Horticulture, follow the links below. The University of California Nursery and Floriculture Alliance (formerly CORF) and The Water Education Alliance for Horticulture The Conference on Water Recycling and Treatment January 28 and 29, 2010 Center for Applied Horticultural Research 3742 Blue Bird Canyon Road Vista, CA ------------------------------------------------ Subject: New Edition of Calif Agriculture January-March 2010 From: CalAgGuest Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:29:17 -0800 California Agriculture journal JANUARY-MARCH 2010 (Vol. 64 No. 1) Welcome to the newest edition of California Agriculture journal! The entire contents can now be viewed at: http://CaliforniaAgriculture.ucanr.org/ Highlights: € IPM and biological control limit light brown apple moth damage in New Zealand € A million California farmworkers face increased risk of diabetes, respiratory disease Also in the January- March 2010 issue of California Agriculture: Depression and low-income women: In a survey, more than 45% of low-income California women were identified as depressed, with women in smaller households at significantly higher risk. Nurseries and water-quality management: Southern California production nurseries significantly increased their adoption of several best management practices to reduce runoff, limit waste and improve water quality within a 2-year time frame. Tree pruning and white pine blister rust: A 6-year study found that pruning treatments reduced the incidence and growth of white pine blister rust in sugar pines, an iconic conifer species of the Sierra Nevada and Cascade Range. Strawberry breeding and Verticillium wilt: Since 1994, UC researchers have screened more than 480 strawberry genotypes for resistance to Verticillium wilt, and selected for resistance in subsequent crosses; the Verticillium resistance rate in has increased from 35% to nearly 80% in recent years. Wine-grape trends and consumer demand: Over the past 30 years, coastal regions have increasingly grown high-priced wines, while inland areas are associated with lower quality wines; Pinot Noir acreage is up while Merlot has declined, and Chardonnay now dominates white wines. <><><><> Announcements And Web Pages To Consider <><><><> San Diego Chapter California Rare Fruit Growers Meeting: Where: Casa del Prado Building Room 101, Balboa Park When: Fourth Wednesday Of Each Month (Except December) See: http://www.crfgsandiego.org http://nc.crfgsandiego.org For North County CRFG Chapter Meeting http://www.crfg.org/chapters.html For information about ALL CRFG chapters. <> Agricultural Research Service (ARS) ars>news@arsgrin.gov <> http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/thelatest.htm. None this time <><><><><><><><><> End of RFN201001B.txt <><><><><><><><><><> Rare Fruit News Online - February 1, 2010 - AKA RFN201002A.txt _____________________________________________________________ <><><><> Notes In Passing - Leo <><><><> <><><><><><><><><> Table Of Contents <><><><><><><><><> -> -> -> Messages follow the Table Of Contents <- <- <- <><><> New Subscribers <><><> New Subscribers-Fallbrook San Diego, County Becky Tanamachi <><><> Readers Write <><><> Dealing With Rats Eating Fruit Oscar Jaitt RE: Starfruit trees that don't fruit Oscar Jaitt To: Judi Wanted: Eugenia luschnathiana (pitomba) Margaret Basile Flickr and California Rare Fruit Growers Leo Manuel Pitahaya project in Colorado Greenhouse-Feasible? Dave P. Troutman Urgent need for a small Neem Tree, San Diego Partha Mandayam 10 Fruit Trees Delivered for $199 ­ Bare Root Peaceful Valley CCA Annual Meeting-Sat Feb 20, 2009 10am-3pm Carpinteria, CA Joe Sabol Blueberry Bush and Fertilizer Sale Peaceful Valley | Citrus Research Growers' Educational Seminars - February! CE San Diego Upload your grafting article? Cielo & Kevin -> -> -> -> -> -> Messages <- <- <- <- <- <- <><><><><><><><> New Subscribers <><><><><><><><><> Subject: New Subscribers-Fallbrook San Diego, County From: Becky Tanamachi Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 16:30:09 -0800 We are Bob Maiden and Becky Tanamachi. We live in Fallbrook. We moved here mid 2009 from the Long Beach area. We have have many established fruit trees, but we don't know the variety of most. We have 6 avocado (haas, stewart and unknown), oranges (valencia, cara cara, navel and temecula sweet), ruby red grapefruit, lemons (meyer and eureka), apple (unknown, small and red), nectarine, asian pear, apricot, pluot, peach, strawberry guava, persimmon (jiro), plum (santa rosa and satsuma), pomegranate (kashmir and pink statin), fig (striped tiger), kumquat and grapes (unknown). We have 12 lime trees because this used to be a lime orchard. We don't know what else we would like to grow as we are just trying the get a handle on the ones we have! We recently joined the CRFG, North San Diego County chapter. Becky Tanamachi mailto:bgtanamachi@msn.com <><><><><><><><><> Readers Write<><><><><><><><><><> Subject: Dealing With Rats Eating Fruit From: Oscar Jaitt Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 22:38:58 -1000 Leo, Havehart traps work very well. You could even use some of the damaged fruits as bait. Oscar mailto:fruitlovers@hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: RE: Starfruit trees that don't fruit From: Oscar Jaitt Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 22:51:54 -1000 To: Judi It sounds to me like you should try planting another starfruit tree. Often trees that are stressed when young have a hard time recooperating. If you have plenty of room best might be to plant a new tree and fertilize your old one with low N and high P and K fertilizer, that should get it flowering. Oscar in Opihikao, Hawaii mailto:fruitlovers@hotmail.com > Subject: Starfruit trees that don't fruit > From: Judi Steinman > Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 01:55:39 -0800 (PST) > > > Aloha Leo and happy new year, > > I have a 5 or 6 year old starfruit tree here in Laupahoehoe on > Hawai`i Island, elevation around 1200 feet. After struggling for > most of its life it finally produces lots of nice leaves but no > blossoms or fruit. It did blossom when I first got it as a gift > but I think it was stressed in the pot it came in. Now its in the > ground. Any suggestions on what kind of fertilizer will help it > blossom and produce fruit? > > Mahalo, > > Judi mailto:pbjxs@yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Wanted: Eugenia luschnathiana (pitomba) From: Margaret Basile Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 07:09:37 -0500 Do you know of anyone who has Eugenia luschnathiana (pitomba) growing in your area? we have not had good fruit crops for this in Florida for the last year or so and I need some for a research project on antioxidants Margaret Basile mailto:mbasile@med.miami.edu ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Flickr and California Rare Fruit Growers From: Leo Manuel Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 10:47:10 -0800 I stumbled across this site with lots of fruit-related pictures: http://www.flickr.com/groups/crfg/ ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Pitahaya project in Colorado Greenhouse-Feasible? From: Dave P. Troutman Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 20:27:35 -0700 Hi, I'm trying to persuade a friend here in southwest Colorado with a 20 ft x 200 ft vacant greenhouse to try growing dragonfruit as a crop .In the past they have grown tomato crops with good sucess . They got tired of all the care , watering , heat , bugs , disease , etc. Pitahaya would seem like an ideal greenhouse plant . Wheel them outside in summer . Use of shade cloth for sunburn protection . You wouldn't think they would need much night heat during winter to keep them alive. Nor very much water . Seems like it would be an easy maintenance greenhouse crop . I haven't found much about raising dragonfruit. Maybe you can direct me towards more information? Sincerely Dave Troutman mailto:westtrout@acsol.net PO box 418, Naturita, Co. 81422 (970)865-2146 > Hi Dave > > I think that's a great question, and hope you'll post it on > the Yahoo newsgroup I began a few years ago, PitayaFruit. > There was a man in Canada that tried it, but I don't know what > became of his project. A man in Israel would be a good source > for an opinion, name of Yossi Mizrahi > mailto:mizrahi@bgumail.bgu.ac.il > > The idea sounds promising, and I hope you post in the > newsgroup. > > Leo ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Urgent need for a small Neem Tree, San Diego From: Partha Mandayam Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:07:22 -0800 (PST) Leo, I got your contact email address from Richard, when I met him last week at Miami. He said you might be able to help me. I live in San Diego and I have an urgent need for a small Neem (Azadirachta Indica) tree or sapling in the next couple of days. Could you please let me know if you have such a sapling in stock or if someone else may have it for sale in San Diego or anywhere else in the Los Angeles area? I would really appreciate a quick reply. Thanks. Partha mailto:mandayam@yahoo.com (858) 775-6911 ------------------------------------------------ Subject: 10 Fruit Trees Delivered for $199 ­ Bare Root From: Peaceful Valley Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:51:47 -0800 Shop GrowOrganic.com | 1-888-784-1722 10 Fruit Trees Delivered for $199 Start or expand your home orchard today! We'll deliver 10 fruit trees to your door for $199. Just use coupon code 10FOR199 when you checkout. Price includes shipping! Offer excludes multi-fruit trees, pomegranates, jujubes, persimmons, nut trees & potted figs, citrus & olives. Offer is valid for $19.99 bare-root fruit trees. While supplies last. Bare Root Booster Blend 50% off Bare-Root Booster Blend Booster Blend only $4.99 $2.49 with every tree purchase! Free Shipping with Bare Root Fruit or Nut Trees! Mix in one 3 lb bag of Bare-Root Booster Blend and some compost when you plant your trees and you'll be delighted this summer. This all organic blend provides just what your plants need. It has small amounts of all the major nutrients and micronutrients, made more available by the biologically active compost and the humates in the mix. In combination with the mycorrhizal inoculant, your plants' roots will have the ideal environment in which to grow and multiply. Contains; soft rock phosphate, compost, sulfate of potash, feathermeal, kelpmeal, mycorrhizal inoculant and micronized humates. Use coupon code FREEBOOSTER at checkout. Expires 1/31 Peaceful Valley mailto:marketing@groworganic.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: CCA Annual Meeting-Sat Feb 20, 2009 10am-3pm Carpinteria, CA From: Joe Sabol Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 21:25:39 -0800 (PST) Hi Leo You probably have this already. See below. Joe mailto:jsabol@calpoly.edu ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Ken Burton To: CCA Members Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 1:11:35 PM GMT -08:00 US/ Subject: CCA Annual Meeting-Sat Feb 20, 2009 10am-3pm Carpinteria, CA CALIFORNIA CHERIMOYA ASSOCIATION ANNUAL MEETING Saturday, February 20, 2010 Carpinteria Womens' Club 1059 Vallecito Rd, Carpinteria Reserve early... Space is limited. SCHEDULE 10:00 a.m. Registration & Social Hour Please bring cherimoya seed and budwood to share. 11:00 a.m. Speaker: Dr. Norman C. Ellstrand Transgenic Tropical and Sub-Tropical Fruit Trees Past Tense? Future Perfect? Our speaker is truly an expert. Norman C. Ellstrand is Professor of Genetics at the University of California Riverside and Adjunct Professor at Keck Graduate Institute of Applied Life Sciences. He has spent his 30+ years at UCR working on ’Äúapplied plant population genetics, addressing questions ranging from weed evolution to biosafety of genetically engineered crops and working on plants ranging from corn and cowpeas to cherimoya and persimmon. Norm and his wife, Dr. Tracy Kahn, Curator of UCR's Citrus Variety Collection. have conducted research for CCA in the past. 12:00 noon Catered Lunch & Discussion 1:00 p.m. Business Meeting 1:30 p.m. Local Orchard Tour HOW TO GET THERE Directions to Carpinteria Womens Club, 1059 Vallecito Rd, Carpinteria, CA Hwy 101 North or South Exit Casitas Pass Rd. Turn South away from freeway (toward McDonald's) Right on Carpinteria Ave. at signal Right on Vallecito Rd. (at Rusty Pizza across from Foster Freeze) Women's Club is second building on left. Park in adjacent parking lot. Questions? Please contact Scott Van Der Kar at (805) 684-7900 or mailto:pinehill@sbceo.org . California Cherimoya Association 2010 Annual Meeting & Program Number of Reservations ________ X $25.00 Number of Students ________ X $15.00 Total Enclosed $ _________ Please make check payable to California Cherimoya Association and mail your reservation to arrive by February 15, 2010 to: CCA c/o Scott Van Der Kar, President 7017 Shepard Mesa Rd. Carpinteria, CA 93013-3133 ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Blueberry Bush and Fertilizer Sale From: Peaceful Valley | Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 20:28:21 -0800 Shop GrowOrganic.com | 1-888-784-1722 Buy 3 Blueberry Bushes, Get 1 Free! And remember to select at least two varieties for cross-pollination! Use coupon FREEBLUE during checkout. Online only. Offer is valid through 1/31/10. Cottonseed Meal Acid Mix Soil Sulfur 50% off Bare-Root Booster Blend Booster Blend only $4.99 $2.49 with every blueberry purchase! Mix in half a bag of Bare-Root Booster Blend, some acidic amendment (see below for several options), and compost when you plant your blueberry bush and you'll be delighted this summer. The all organic booster blend provides just what your plants need. It has small amounts of all the major nutrients and micronutrients, made more available by the biologically active compost and the humates in the mix. In combination with the mycorrhizal inoculant, your plants' roots will have the ideal environment in which to grow and multiply. Contains; soft rock phosphate, compost, sulfate of potash, feathermeal, kelp meal, mycorrhizal inoculant and micronized humates. Use coupon code BERRYBOOSTER at checkout. Expires 1/31/10. Peaceful Valley mailto:marketing@groworganic.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Citrus Research Growers' Educational Seminars - February! From: CE San Diego Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 11:37:27 -0800 Hello everyone, I'm forwarding program and registration information to you for the upcoming Citrus Research Growers' Educational Seminars. The seminar in San Diego County is scheduled for February 18, 2010. Please see the attachment. I am still on sabbatical but you may call our San Marcos office at (760) 752-4724 if you have questions or need assistance while I am out of the office. Gary S. Bender, Ph.D. mailto:gsbender@ucdavis.edu Citrus Research Growers' Educational Seminars 2010 Series -Southern California Program Citrus Research Board (CRB) and University of California Cooperative Extension Pala (San Diego County) Thursday, February 18th Pala Casino Hotel, 35008 Pala Temecula Road (just off Highway 76) in Pala (Between Temecula and Escondido -just 5 miles east of I-15) Registration opens at 8:15 A.M. Seminar Sessions 9:00 A.M. 2:00 P.M. Indio Friday, February 19th Indian Palms Country Club, 48630 Monroe Street in Indio Registration opens at 8:15 A.M. Seminar Sessions 9:00 A.M. 2:00 P.M. At both locations, the program will cover: Quarantine Mania What is the Potential and Real Issues surrounding quarantines of citrus fruit in the Southern California Region. How will Medfly, Mexfly and Asian Citrus Psyllid impact your ability, as a grower, to move fruit from your ranch to the marketplace. Speakers will include representatives from USDA, CDFA, County Agricultural Commissioner's and Industry to try and clear up these important issues. ACP and HLB Mini-Seminar (2 hour Session) This session will address the many factors and implications of the invasion of Asian Citrus Psyllid and the eventual threat from Huanglongbing (HLB) to Southern California Citrus Growers Speakers in this session will include: A panel of organic growers and packers to address concerns and protocols for organics Dr. Beth Grafton-Cardwell on Pest Management Programs and Recommendations Dr. MaryLou Polek on the activities of the CRB to protect the growers Additional speakers to address future programs that will aid the industry to deal with the problem Ted Batkin, President of the Citrus Research Board Each session will include significant time for Questions and Answers Application pending for 3.0 hours of continuing education credit $20.00 per person includes lunch and course materials Advance Reservations are Strongly Recommended To register, mail coupon by no later than Feb. 4th, 2010 or Phone (559) 738-0246 by noon on Feb. 5th , fax coupon to (559) 738-0607 by noon Feb. 5th or send an e-mail message to Info@citrusresearch.org. (You may pay at the door) - clip here -------------------------------------------- Please make____ reservations for the Citrus Research Growers' Seminar in _____________ (location) Name: _____________________________________________________ Address: __________________________________________________ Phone: _________Fax: _________________ E-Mail: _________________________________ Enclosed is my check in the amount of $_______. Make check payable to Citrus Research Board. Mail check with this form to: Citrus Research Board, P.O. Box 230, Visalia, CA 93279 CE San Diego mailto:cesandiego@ucdavis.edu ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Upload your grafting article? From: Cielo & Kevin Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:00:03 -0800 (PST) Hi Leo, I'm working w/ Jose in updating our website. Would you mind if we upload your article onto our website www.crfgsandiego.org? It'd be posted in the services page. Thanks, Cielo mailto:cielonkevin@yahoo.com [I am flattered to be asked. It is certainly ok. Leo] <><><><> Announcements And Web Pages To Consider <><><><> San Diego Chapter California Rare Fruit Growers Meeting: Where: Casa del Prado Building Room 101, Balboa Park When: Fourth Wednesday Of Each Month (Except December) See: http://www.crfgsandiego.org http://nc.crfgsandiego.org For North County CRFG Chapter Meeting http://www.crfg.org/chapters.html For information about ALL CRFG chapters. <> Agricultural Research Service (ARS) ars>news@arsgrin.gov <> http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/thelatest.htm. None this time <><><><><><><><><> End of RFN201002A.txt <><><><><><><><><><> Rare Fruit News Online - February 15, 2010 - AKA RFN201002B.txt _____________________________________________________________ <><><><> Notes In Passing - Leo <><><><> Unusual weather for the season. At my San Diego home, we've received more rain in the last 30 days than in all of last year. Today, the thermometer climbed to 78º and monarch butterflies continue to 'hatch' with three chrysalises in the hotbed, and others maybe hiding outside. There are no more caterpillars that I know about. A few deciduous fruit trees and plants have been blooming, such as peach and blueberries. Three mango trees still have a very few fruit hanging, besides the almost perennially-bearing Nam Doc Mai. Late bearing mango trees are hard to predict when to harvest the fruit. Valencia Pride had only three fruit. I harvested one thinking it would ripen off the tree, but it didn't. The graft for it was poorly placed very low on the seedling, and probably doesn't get adequate sunlight to ripen properly. I hope you'll find something to write about, as this issue has had very few letters. <><><><><><><><><> Table Of Contents <><><><><><><><><> -> -> -> Messages follow the Table Of Contents <- <- <- <><><> New Subscribers <><><> None this time <><><> Readers Write <><><> Bio-Wash for Added Cold Protection Maurice Central Coast Chapter, CRFG, annual Scion Exchange Joe Sabol Benedictine avocado Chris To: Alice Snow Horticultural Myths? Leo Manuel Fw: Katuk Plant Edward Musgrave Olives & Olive Oil Workshop: Sat. Feb. 27th in Vista Cielo & Kevin North S.D. County CRFG newsletter February 2010 Harry Nickerson -> -> -> -> -> -> Messages <- <- <- <- <- <- <><><><><><><><> New Subscribers <><><><><><><><><> None this time <><><><><><><><><> Readers Write<><><><><><><><><><> Subject: Bio-Wash for Added Cold Protection From: Maurice Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 00:39:11 EST Hi Leo: Thought your readers might like to know of another option for plants cold protection. Maurice mailto:CHINO228@aol.com Horticultural breakthrough gives plants cold protection. NOAA predicted colder and wetter weather this winter. A few weeks ago, California had a freeze scare. Last week Florida also had its share of three cold snaps of freezing weather. While most nurseries have the means to protect their plants, home gardeners have to fend for themselves with mulching, banking, wrapping and misting. Larger trees have little or no protection. Home gardeners and rare fruit enthusiasts will be pleased to know there is another alternative. For some time, nurseries using an organic product called Eco-Safe Bio-Wash Plant Care as part of their regular maintenance program observed Bio-Washed plants showed encouraging signs for cold protection. The word soon got around that spraying Bio-Wash several days prior to cold snap would also improve plant resistance to cold damage as well. As examples, Powells nursery in Punta Gorda, Florida apply Bio-Wash throughout the year and a few days before a cold as a precautionary measure. Mitch Haynie, Texas tested Bio-Wash on iris. The Bio-Washed irises survived freezing temperatures with no damage. McCulloughs Nursery in Ohio, Bio-Washed their plants as part of their maintenance program also had similar results. Tracy Piper in Bellview, Florida, tangerine trees survived the freeze and produced an abundant crop of larger and sweeter fruits. Before a recent freeze, Hamburger Jims mango trees were covered with blooms. He declined to Bio-Wash them and eventually lost all but six blooms. Tree House Nursery, Florida on the other hand, Bio-Washed 12 acres of trees and saved every bloom and fruit. Jim Little, Lemon Cove, California citrus grove owner who have been using Bio-Wash as part of his regular maintenance program on his 4000 plus orange grove survived the devastating 27 F. freeze that destroyed 70% of Californias citrus crop a few years ago. To his surprise, his oranges had a 20% higher brix (sugar content) increase as well. His neighbors citrus grove across the tracks that was not Bio-Washed was virtually a total loss. The question asked is Whats causing increased BRIX and freeze tolerance. Ellis Flemming, a chemist, believes Bio-Wash efficacy improves plant health and hardiness enough to make plants cold resistant. To date, there is no known scientific theory explaining how Bio-Wash is able to protect plants. One explanation however, is that photosynthesis is the process by which plants utilize sunlight to produce sugar. Sugar forms the basis for starches, cellulose, waxes, carbohydrates, oils and protein that are the building blocks for plant growth. The leaf is a solar collector crammed full of photosynthesis cells. During photosynthesis, leaves use water to release oxygen. Plants and trees after being sprayed with Bio-Wash experience an accelerated level of photosynthesis. This is believed to attribute to the small size of the particles which allows them to enter the stomata of a plants leaves making them more efficient in utilizing the energy from the sun. There are two other plausible theories attempting to explain why Bio-Wash helps prevent frost and freeze damage enough to make plants cold resistant. a) Higher amounts of sugar in the plant lower the temperature at which cold temperatures damage plants. (Annals of Botany, 1996, Brix Gardens-International AG Labs, 2004). b) The tiny quantum sized particles created in liquid Bio-Wash are so small, they can penetrate into the plant leaf. Because unofficial tests indicate their freezing temperature to be at 26 F, they prevent moisture in the plant from freezing until reaching below 27 F. There are still a few more months to go before we can all have a sigh of relief. For additional information on Eco-Safe Bio-Wash organic Plant Care, call Mark at Rare Fruit Council, Miami (305) 554-1333 or mailto:chino228@aol.com PS. Bio-Wash does not need any protective clothing, gloves or masks. ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Central Coast Chapter, CRFG, annual "Scion Exchange" From: Joe Sabol Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 11:38:00 -0800 (PST) Hi Leo: The Central Coast Chapter, CRFG, will hold their annual "Scion Exchange and Grafting Party" on Saturday afternoon, February 20, on the campus of Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo. Admission is free and the event is open to the public. No reservations required. No parking permit required. We will have rootstock and all sorts of grafting supplies for sale. Seven expert grafters will be demonstrating their favorite grafting techniques and this will go on all afternoon. One of our experts will demonstrate only avocado grafting!! Members and guests are encouraged to bring dormant scion wood but no patented varieties and no citrus of any kind. A very brief meeting will be held at 1:30 and then the fun begins. Event will be held at the Crops Unit, corner of Highland and Mt. Bishop road on the Cal Poly Campus. Call Joe Sabol (805) 544-1056 for more information. Joe mailto:jsabol@calpoly.edu ------------------------------------------------ Subject: [Fwd: Benedictine avocado] From: Alice Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 00:08:07 -0800 Leo Here is an email we just received from (Dr.) Chris Marshall of some of the Tucson Avocados. Alice mailto:glorialice@cox.net ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Benedictine avocado From: christopher.marshall@att.net Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:27:34 +0000 To: Alice Snow Hi Alice, I hope I have remembered your email correctly because I misplaced the paper I wrote it on. I found these pictures of the Benedictine Sanctuary avocado tree from 2007. They were taken before the brutal pruning and my 'sacking' by the sisters. The third picture is a bit out of focus but was intended to show the density of fruiting: Multiple avocado fruit are visible there. I have requested that our membership here collect photos of their trees and I might scribble a breif article for Fruit Gardener on avocados in Tucson as a follow up on the Aravaipa article. Regards, Chris mailto:christopher.marshall@att.net ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Horticultural Myths From: Leo Manuel Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 10:29:55 -0800 http://www.puyallup.wsu.edu/~Linda Chalker-Scott/Horticultural Myths_files/index.html Horticultural Myths Myth: Coffee grounds: will they perk up plants? Myth: Horticultural oils - Fall (Literature) Myth: Dust mulches - Summer (Literature) Myth: Bacillus thuringiensis (Bt) - marvel or mistake? Myth: Super-absorbent water crystals - are they really so "super?" - Fall (Literature) Myth: Arborist wood chip mulches: landscape boon or bane? - Summer (Literature) Myth: Adding Epsom salts to gardens is a safe, natural way to increase plant growth - Spring (Literature) Myth: Compost tea: examining the science behind the claims - Winter (Literature) Myth: Peat Moss Is an Environmentally Friendly Organic Amendment Essential for Many Horticultural Purposes - July Myth: Milk Sprayed onto Rose Leaves Will Prevent Fungal and Bacterial Diseases - June Myth: Vibration from Traffic Causes Soil Compaction of Adjacent Landscapes - April Myth: Seaweed Extracts Reduce Disease, Improve Production, and Increase Stress Resistance in Landscape Plants - November Myth: Aerobically-Brewed Compost Tea Suppresses Disease - October (also please see the EPA statement about pesticidal use of compost tea) Myth: Recycled Rubber Mulch Is an Environmentally Friendly, Non-Toxic Choice for Landscapes - September Myth: Unless It Causes Visible Damage, Touching or Brushing Has Little Effect on Plants - August Myth: Certain Species Will Thrive, Lean On, Nestle With, and Support Each Other in Groupings - July Myth: The Chemicals in Pressure-Treated Lumber Will Not Affect Adjacent Soils or Plants - June Myth: Applying Horticultural Practices from Past Eras is a Sound Approach to Landscape Management - May Myth: Harpin Success in the Lab Guarantees Success in the Field - April Myth: Fertilizers Sprayed on the Leaves of Trees and Shrubs Are More Effective Than Soil Applications - March Myth: Landscape Trees Need To Be Headed Back in the Nursery to Develop Proper Branching - February Myth: Bleach Is the Best Choice for Disinfecting Pruning Wounds and Tools - January Myth: Amending Your Soil with Organic Matter Will Improve Water Quality in Streams - December Myth: Nursery Tags Are an Accurate Indicator of Final Plant Size - November Myth: Adding Potassium or Magnesium to your Landscape Plants Will Increase Their Cold Hardiness - October Myth: Biodynamics Is a Scientifically Sound Approach to Sustainable Management of Plant Systems - September Myth: Nursery Brochures Are Always the Best Sources of Appropriate Planting Practices - August Myth: Balled and Burlapped Root Balls Must Be Left Intact During Transplanting - July Myth: Corn Gluten Meal Is an Effective Organic Herbicide - June Myth: Add a Handful of Bone Meal to Planting Holes Before Installing Shrubs and Trees - May Myth: Vitamin B-1 Reduces Transplant Shock by Stimulating New Root Growth - April Myth: Are Polyacrylamide Hydrogels Environmentally Safe Substances That Reduce Irrigation Needs? - March Myth: Unless You're a Pointsettia, Increased Light Can't Hurt - February Myth: Adding Gypsum to your Yard or Garden Will Improve Soil Tilth and Plant Health - January Myth: Fertilizer Injection Is the Most Effective Way to Correct Tree Nutrient Deficiencies - December Myth: If It's Published, It Must Be True - November Myth: Low-oxygen Root Zones Can Be Aerated by Installing Vertical Aeration Tubes - October Myth: Tree Topping Is Like a Haircut - Sometimes It's Necessary, and a Tree Can Always Grow Out of a Bad One - September Myth: Aerobically-brewed Compost Tea Suppresses Disease - August Myth: Use of Drought-tolerant Plants Reduces Residential Water Consumption - July Myth: Woodchips Made From Cedars Will Kill Landscape Plants - June Myth: Uncomposted Yard Waste Mulch Is Harmful to Plant Life and Negatively Impacts Water Quality - May Myth: Leaf Wilt Is the Best Indicator of Insufficient Soil Moisture - April Myth: Healthy Soil Has High Organic Content - March Myth: Decrease Fall Irrigation to Force Landscape Plants into Winter Dormancy - February Myth: You Shouldn't Disturb the Rootball When Planting Trees and Shrubs - January Myth: Uncomposted Wood Chips Can Spread Pathogenic Fungi and Bacteria to Healthy Roots - December Myth: Glyphosate Will Move Through Root Grafts and Kill Non-target Plants - November Myth: Botanically Derived Pesticides Are Safer Than Synthetics - October Myth: Antitranspirants Prevent Drought Stress, Especially in Newly Installed Trees and Shrubs - September Myth: Watering Plants on a Hot Sunny Day will Scorch Their Leaves - August Myth: Bark Mulch and Sawdust Are Aesthetically Preferable to Wood Chips and They Work Just As Well - July Myth: Newspaper and Cardboard Sheet Mulches Are an Excellent Ways To Reduce Weeds and Retain Soil Health in Permanent Landscapes - June Myth: Garden Plants Do Not Become Invasive - May Myth: If Plants Develop Red Leaves, It Means They Are Phosphorus Deficient - April Myth: Roses Need Phosphate Fertilizer for Root and Flower Growth - March Myth: Compost Is a Safe, Chemical-free Source of Nutrients for Gardens - February Myth: Landscape Fabric Provides Permanent Weed Control for Ornamental Landscapes - January Myth: Wire Baskets Will Not Interfere With Root Growth of Transplanted Trees - December Myth: Organic Products Are Safer Than Chemicals - November Myth: Arbor Day/Earth Day Is an Ideal Time to Install Trees - October Myth: Native Plants Are Always the Best Choice for Environmentally Sustainable Landscaping - September Myth: Planting Is Simple - Just Dig a Hole and Insert the Plant - August Myth: Any Action Taken in Defense of the Environment Is Justifiable - July Myth: Polyacrylamide Hydrogels are Environmentally Safe Substances that Reduce Irrigation Needs - June Myth: The Quality of Plant Material Is Directly Proportional to the Price - May Myth: Compost Tea Is an Effective Alternative to Traditional Pesticides - April Myth: Newly Planted Trees Must Be Firmly Staked - March Myth: Wound Dressings Protect Pruned Trees from Pathogen Damage - January Myth: Adding Coarse Material Improves Container Drainage - December Myth: Adding Sand Improves Clay Soil - November Myth: Pruning the Tops of New Transplants Compensates for Root Loss - October Myth: Phosphate Fertilizer Stimulates Root Growth upon Transplanting - September Myth: Adding Organic Amendments Improves Soil - August ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Fw: Katuk Plant From: "Edward Musgrave" Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 07:50:48 -0500 Hi Leo Does anyone in the Tampa Bay area know anything about This Plant? I would like to trade for cuttings of this Plant -----Original Message----- From: Edward Musgrave Here is more about the Katuk Plant . It sounds like a keeper . Pass it around to anyone who might know of it. It might be one to get. Ed Katuk (Sauropus androgynus) Katuk is a staple vegetable in Borneo where it grows as an understory tree in the lowland rainforests. Soil: reported to tolerate acid soils, our soil is circum-neutral and they like it. We recommend lime just in case. Water: probably needs plenty, can tolerate brief flooding. Sun: Prefers shade, but can probably tolerate full sun if given plenty of water. Cold: Will freeze in the winter, but should come back from the stump. Pruning: keep pruned to 3-6 feet tall. Propagation: easily propagated by cuttings of older wood stems. Strip the leaves and stick it in the ground in the shade. It probably needs cross pollination to produce seeds and all our plants are clones of one individual. Pests: none known. Other problems: tends to grow tall and lanky and then fall over. Growth slows in the winter and the taste is poor until it resumes vigor with warm weather .sayor manis) Harvesting and preparation: The leaves and flowers have a pea like flavor. In Borneo, it is often fertilized and irrigated under shade to produce fast growing tips that are very similar to asparagus. According to www.echotech.org it should probably be cooked, though it is also eaten raw. It has a pleasant peanut-like taste when eaten raw and the cooked leaves taste excellent as spinach. The plant is sold everywhere in Malaysia and nearby countries, where it is grown as an edible hedge. Malaysian scientists have developed a technique for forcing the shoot tips to grow extra long and tender by applying plenty of manure, water and (sometimes) shade. The 5-inch shoot tips (locally called sayor manis) are sold to upscale restaurants and also exported to Japan, and possibly elsewhere, as tropical asparagus. I ate these in a hotel in Malaysia and they were outstanding. The chef stir-fried them for one minute. (www.echotech.org) Edward Musgrave mailto:eamusg@tampabay.rr.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Olives & Olive Oil Workshop: Sat. Feb. 27th in Vista From: Cielo & Kevin Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 12:10:35 -0800 (PST) We're passing this information on to our members. If you're interested in attending this workshop, please respond to them directly -- see bottom of the email for how to register online or receive an application. If you register online or have your application postmarked by Feb. 19th, you save $10. -- Cielo The University of California Cooperative Extension, San Diego County Farm and Home Advisors Office in collaboration with Slow Food Urban San Diego, invite you to join us and listen to internationally known olive and olive oil expert Paul Vossen present a short course focusing on: Olives and Olive Oil: Production & Marketing Strategies for Southern California Location: Center for Applied Horticultural Research (CfAHR) 3742 Blue Bird Canyon Road/ Vista , CA 92084 / (760) 802-9787 Date/Time: Saturday February 27, 2010 from 8 am to 4 pm. Instructor: Paul Vossen, Farm Advisor - UCCE Sonoma County . Contact: Barbara Henderson @ (760)752-4724 for directions, for more information or for special accommodations you may need. Tentative Agenda: 8:00 am Registration (Coffee and Pastries) 8:30 am Introduction to Olive Oil Production (Site Selection, Climate, Water Requirements, Production Systems, Markets and Economics) 10:00 am Break 10:30 am Specialty Olive Oils (Variety Overview, Selection and Olive Oil Tasting (Please bring any locally produced olive oils you would like to share with Group!) 12:00 Noon Lunch (Catered by The Wild Thyme Company) 1:30 pm The Basics of Growing Olive Trees (Irrigation, nutrition, pruning & pest control) 3:00 pm Tentative / Site TBA: Field Demonstration and discussion of Cultural Practices 4:00 pm Adjourn The registration fee is $ 50.00 if postmarked or submitted online by February 19, 2010. $60.00 after that date or at the door. Lunch not guaranteed for walk in registrations! To register by mail you may download and print the announcement in PDF format and following the registration and mailing instructions provided. You may also register online and pay with a credit card at: http://ucanr.org/oliveshortcourse ------------------------------------------------ Subject: North S.D. County CRFG newsletter February 2010 Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:10:46 -0800 (PST) From: secetary nickerson March 6 Grafting Demo and Workshop: This will be a grafting workshop for deciduous trees. This will be held in Ben Pierces back yard (a map to Bens home is attached). The workshop will run from 9AM to 11:30 AM. The chapter has purchased some deciduous rootstock that can accept peach, apricot, and plum bud wood. Members with years of grafting experience will be on hand to demo and assist participants in grafting. If you have some scion wood, of this type, from the Jan exchange bring it you may get to graft it to a rootstock and take home your tree. All participants must be a member of our chapter and a member of CRFG Inc. for insurance purposes. There will be a $4.00 fee for each rootstock you use. Depending on availability, you may be able to purchase more than one rootstock. Participants should bring a grafting knife. This should be a paring size knife with a sharp edge; if you dont have one a utility knife that uses razor blades will work Club members are also asked to bring extra bud wood for use in grafting practice. Chapter Dues: Dues are $8.00 for newsletter via email, $12.00 for newsletter via USPS. Members dues are delinquent after March 1. Participants at the March 6 Workshop must be current in their dues for insurance purposes Please pay Dottie Logan at a meeting or mail to her at 702 Berkeley Way Vista, CA 92084. Bonsall Education Foundation: is a non-profit 501c3 that funds grants in support of academic excellence for the Bonsall Union School District. Julie Koleszar a board member has contacted our chapter for assistance in work parties in improving the landscapes at various campuses in Bonsall. She is seeking expertise in plant selection, gifts of plants/trees and volunteers. The dates are: Feb. 27, Mar. 13, and Mar. 21. Please contact her at mailto:jkoleszar@mindspring.com, or call 760-468-0154 for more info. Master Gardeners Spring Seminar-Mar. 27, at USD Tom Spellman of Dave Wilson Nurseries will be one of the speakers. For more info go to: Exotic Plant Sale April 3: at 3562 OLIVE HILL RD. FALLBROOK Call 760-451-9499 for more info. Meetings are usually held the 3rd Friday, 7 PM at Mira Costa College (MCC) One Bernard Dr., Oceanside in Room 7003 of the Horticultural Bldg. Feb. 19 th 7:00 PM Room 7003 Hort. Bldg. (MCC) Water Conservation- Steve Jacobs Mar. 19 th 7:00 PM Room 7003 Hort. Bldg. (MCC) Bamboo & Palms Ben Pierce Chair 760-744-4716 ncsdcrfg@cox.net Harry Nickerson mailto:crfg@sbcglobal.net <><><><> Announcements And Web Pages To Consider <><><><> San Diego Chapter California Rare Fruit Growers Meeting: Where: Casa del Prado Building Room 101, Balboa Park When: Fourth Wednesday Of Each Month (Except December) See: http://www.crfgsandiego.org http://nc.crfgsandiego.org For North County CRFG Chapter Meeting http://www.crfg.org/chapters.html For information about ALL CRFG chapters. <> Agricultural Research Service (ARS) ars>news@arsgrin.gov <> http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/thelatest.htm. None this time <><><><><><><><><> End of RFN201002A.txt <><><><><><><><><><> Rare Fruit News Online - February 15, 2010 - AKA RFN201002B.txt _____________________________________________________________ <><><><> Notes In Passing - Leo <><><><> Unusual weather for the season. At my San Diego home, we've received more rain in the last 30 days than in all of last year. Today, the thermometer climbed to 78º and monarch butterflies continue to 'hatch' with three chrysalises in the hotbed, and others maybe hiding outside. There are no more caterpillars that I know about. A few deciduous fruit trees and plants have been blooming, such as peach and blueberries. Three mango trees still have a very few fruit hanging, besides the almost perennially-bearing Nam Doc Mai. Late bearing mango trees are hard to predict when to harvest the fruit. Valencia Pride had only three fruit. I harvested one thinking it would ripen off the tree, but it didn't. The graft for it was poorly placed very low on the seedling, and probably doesn't get adequate sunlight to ripen properly. I hope you'll find something to write about, as this issue has had very few letters. <><><><><><><><><> Table Of Contents <><><><><><><><><> -> -> -> Messages follow the Table Of Contents <- <- <- <><><> New Subscribers <><><> None this time <><><> Readers Write <><><> Bio-Wash for Added Cold Protection Maurice Central Coast Chapter, CRFG, annual Scion Exchange Joe Sabol Benedictine avocado Chris To: Alice Snow Horticultural Myths? Leo Manuel Fw: Katuk Plant Edward Musgrave Olives & Olive Oil Workshop: Sat. Feb. 27th in Vista Cielo & Kevin North S.D. County CRFG newsletter February 2010 Harry Nickerson -> -> -> -> -> -> Messages <- <- <- <- <- <- <><><><><><><><> New Subscribers <><><><><><><><><> None this time <><><><><><><><><> Readers Write<><><><><><><><><><> Subject: Bio-Wash for Added Cold Protection From: Maurice Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 00:39:11 EST Hi Leo: Thought your readers might like to know of another option for plants cold protection. Maurice mailto:CHINO228@aol.com Horticultural breakthrough gives plants cold protection. NOAA predicted colder and wetter weather this winter. A few weeks ago, California had a freeze scare. Last week Florida also had its share of three cold snaps of freezing weather. While most nurseries have the means to protect their plants, home gardeners have to fend for themselves with mulching, banking, wrapping and misting. Larger trees have little or no protection. Home gardeners and rare fruit enthusiasts will be pleased to know there is another alternative. For some time, nurseries using an organic product called Eco-Safe Bio-Wash Plant Care as part of their regular maintenance program observed Bio-Washed plants showed encouraging signs for cold protection. The word soon got around that spraying Bio-Wash several days prior to cold snap would also improve plant resistance to cold damage as well. As examples, Powells nursery in Punta Gorda, Florida apply Bio-Wash throughout the year and a few days before a cold as a precautionary measure. Mitch Haynie, Texas tested Bio-Wash on iris. The Bio-Washed irises survived freezing temperatures with no damage. McCulloughs Nursery in Ohio, Bio-Washed their plants as part of their maintenance program also had similar results. Tracy Piper in Bellview, Florida, tangerine trees survived the freeze and produced an abundant crop of larger and sweeter fruits. Before a recent freeze, Hamburger Jims mango trees were covered with blooms. He declined to Bio-Wash them and eventually lost all but six blooms. Tree House Nursery, Florida on the other hand, Bio-Washed 12 acres of trees and saved every bloom and fruit. Jim Little, Lemon Cove, California citrus grove owner who have been using Bio-Wash as part of his regular maintenance program on his 4000 plus orange grove survived the devastating 27 F. freeze that destroyed 70% of Californias citrus crop a few years ago. To his surprise, his oranges had a 20% higher brix (sugar content) increase as well. His neighbors citrus grove across the tracks that was not Bio-Washed was virtually a total loss. The question asked is Whats causing increased BRIX and freeze tolerance. Ellis Flemming, a chemist, believes Bio-Wash efficacy improves plant health and hardiness enough to make plants cold resistant. To date, there is no known scientific theory explaining how Bio-Wash is able to protect plants. One explanation however, is that photosynthesis is the process by which plants utilize sunlight to produce sugar. Sugar forms the basis for starches, cellulose, waxes, carbohydrates, oils and protein that are the building blocks for plant growth. The leaf is a solar collector crammed full of photosynthesis cells. During photosynthesis, leaves use water to release oxygen. Plants and trees after being sprayed with Bio-Wash experience an accelerated level of photosynthesis. This is believed to attribute to the small size of the particles which allows them to enter the stomata of a plants leaves making them more efficient in utilizing the energy from the sun. There are two other plausible theories attempting to explain why Bio-Wash helps prevent frost and freeze damage enough to make plants cold resistant. a) Higher amounts of sugar in the plant lower the temperature at which cold temperatures damage plants. (Annals of Botany, 1996, Brix Gardens-International AG Labs, 2004). b) The tiny quantum sized particles created in liquid Bio-Wash are so small, they can penetrate into the plant leaf. Because unofficial tests indicate their freezing temperature to be at 26 F, they prevent moisture in the plant from freezing until reaching below 27 F. There are still a few more months to go before we can all have a sigh of relief. For additional information on Eco-Safe Bio-Wash organic Plant Care, call Mark at Rare Fruit Council, Miami (305) 554-1333 or mailto:chino228@aol.com PS. Bio-Wash does not need any protective clothing, gloves or masks. ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Central Coast Chapter, CRFG, annual "Scion Exchange" From: Joe Sabol Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 11:38:00 -0800 (PST) Hi Leo: The Central Coast Chapter, CRFG, will hold their annual "Scion Exchange and Grafting Party" on Saturday afternoon, February 20, on the campus of Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo. Admission is free and the event is open to the public. No reservations required. No parking permit required. We will have rootstock and all sorts of grafting supplies for sale. Seven expert grafters will be demonstrating their favorite grafting techniques and this will go on all afternoon. One of our experts will demonstrate only avocado grafting!! Members and guests are encouraged to bring dormant scion wood but no patented varieties and no citrus of any kind. A very brief meeting will be held at 1:30 and then the fun begins. Event will be held at the Crops Unit, corner of Highland and Mt. Bishop road on the Cal Poly Campus. Call Joe Sabol (805) 544-1056 for more information. Joe mailto:jsabol@calpoly.edu ------------------------------------------------ Subject: [Fwd: Benedictine avocado] From: Alice Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 00:08:07 -0800 Leo Here is an email we just received from (Dr.) Chris Marshall of some of the Tucson Avocados. Alice mailto:glorialice@cox.net ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Benedictine avocado From: christopher.marshall@att.net Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:27:34 +0000 To: Alice Snow Hi Alice, I hope I have remembered your email correctly because I misplaced the paper I wrote it on. I found these pictures of the Benedictine Sanctuary avocado tree from 2007. They were taken before the brutal pruning and my 'sacking' by the sisters. The third picture is a bit out of focus but was intended to show the density of fruiting: Multiple avocado fruit are visible there. I have requested that our membership here collect photos of their trees and I might scribble a breif article for Fruit Gardener on avocados in Tucson as a follow up on the Aravaipa article. Regards, Chris mailto:christopher.marshall@att.net ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Horticultural Myths From: Leo Manuel Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 10:29:55 -0800 http://www.puyallup.wsu.edu/~Linda Chalker-Scott/Horticultural Myths_files/index.html Horticultural Myths Myth: Coffee grounds: will they perk up plants? Myth: Horticultural oils - Fall (Literature) Myth: Dust mulches - Summer (Literature) Myth: Bacillus thuringiensis (Bt) - marvel or mistake? Myth: Super-absorbent water crystals - are they really so "super?" - Fall (Literature) Myth: Arborist wood chip mulches: landscape boon or bane? - Summer (Literature) Myth: Adding Epsom salts to gardens is a safe, natural way to increase plant growth - Spring (Literature) Myth: Compost tea: examining the science behind the claims - Winter (Literature) Myth: Peat Moss Is an Environmentally Friendly Organic Amendment Essential for Many Horticultural Purposes - July Myth: Milk Sprayed onto Rose Leaves Will Prevent Fungal and Bacterial Diseases - June Myth: Vibration from Traffic Causes Soil Compaction of Adjacent Landscapes - April Myth: Seaweed Extracts Reduce Disease, Improve Production, and Increase Stress Resistance in Landscape Plants - November Myth: Aerobically-Brewed Compost Tea Suppresses Disease - October (also please see the EPA statement about pesticidal use of compost tea) Myth: Recycled Rubber Mulch Is an Environmentally Friendly, Non-Toxic Choice for Landscapes - September Myth: Unless It Causes Visible Damage, Touching or Brushing Has Little Effect on Plants - August Myth: Certain Species Will Thrive, Lean On, Nestle With, and Support Each Other in Groupings - July Myth: The Chemicals in Pressure-Treated Lumber Will Not Affect Adjacent Soils or Plants - June Myth: Applying Horticultural Practices from Past Eras is a Sound Approach to Landscape Management - May Myth: Harpin Success in the Lab Guarantees Success in the Field - April Myth: Fertilizers Sprayed on the Leaves of Trees and Shrubs Are More Effective Than Soil Applications - March Myth: Landscape Trees Need To Be Headed Back in the Nursery to Develop Proper Branching - February Myth: Bleach Is the Best Choice for Disinfecting Pruning Wounds and Tools - January Myth: Amending Your Soil with Organic Matter Will Improve Water Quality in Streams - December Myth: Nursery Tags Are an Accurate Indicator of Final Plant Size - November Myth: Adding Potassium or Magnesium to your Landscape Plants Will Increase Their Cold Hardiness - October Myth: Biodynamics Is a Scientifically Sound Approach to Sustainable Management of Plant Systems - September Myth: Nursery Brochures Are Always the Best Sources of Appropriate Planting Practices - August Myth: Balled and Burlapped Root Balls Must Be Left Intact During Transplanting - July Myth: Corn Gluten Meal Is an Effective Organic Herbicide - June Myth: Add a Handful of Bone Meal to Planting Holes Before Installing Shrubs and Trees - May Myth: Vitamin B-1 Reduces Transplant Shock by Stimulating New Root Growth - April Myth: Are Polyacrylamide Hydrogels Environmentally Safe Substances That Reduce Irrigation Needs? - March Myth: Unless You're a Pointsettia, Increased Light Can't Hurt - February Myth: Adding Gypsum to your Yard or Garden Will Improve Soil Tilth and Plant Health - January Myth: Fertilizer Injection Is the Most Effective Way to Correct Tree Nutrient Deficiencies - December Myth: If It's Published, It Must Be True - November Myth: Low-oxygen Root Zones Can Be Aerated by Installing Vertical Aeration Tubes - October Myth: Tree Topping Is Like a Haircut - Sometimes It's Necessary, and a Tree Can Always Grow Out of a Bad One - September Myth: Aerobically-brewed Compost Tea Suppresses Disease - August Myth: Use of Drought-tolerant Plants Reduces Residential Water Consumption - July Myth: Woodchips Made From Cedars Will Kill Landscape Plants - June Myth: Uncomposted Yard Waste Mulch Is Harmful to Plant Life and Negatively Impacts Water Quality - May Myth: Leaf Wilt Is the Best Indicator of Insufficient Soil Moisture - April Myth: Healthy Soil Has High Organic Content - March Myth: Decrease Fall Irrigation to Force Landscape Plants into Winter Dormancy - February Myth: You Shouldn't Disturb the Rootball When Planting Trees and Shrubs - January Myth: Uncomposted Wood Chips Can Spread Pathogenic Fungi and Bacteria to Healthy Roots - December Myth: Glyphosate Will Move Through Root Grafts and Kill Non-target Plants - November Myth: Botanically Derived Pesticides Are Safer Than Synthetics - October Myth: Antitranspirants Prevent Drought Stress, Especially in Newly Installed Trees and Shrubs - September Myth: Watering Plants on a Hot Sunny Day will Scorch Their Leaves - August Myth: Bark Mulch and Sawdust Are Aesthetically Preferable to Wood Chips and They Work Just As Well - July Myth: Newspaper and Cardboard Sheet Mulches Are an Excellent Ways To Reduce Weeds and Retain Soil Health in Permanent Landscapes - June Myth: Garden Plants Do Not Become Invasive - May Myth: If Plants Develop Red Leaves, It Means They Are Phosphorus Deficient - April Myth: Roses Need Phosphate Fertilizer for Root and Flower Growth - March Myth: Compost Is a Safe, Chemical-free Source of Nutrients for Gardens - February Myth: Landscape Fabric Provides Permanent Weed Control for Ornamental Landscapes - January Myth: Wire Baskets Will Not Interfere With Root Growth of Transplanted Trees - December Myth: Organic Products Are Safer Than Chemicals - November Myth: Arbor Day/Earth Day Is an Ideal Time to Install Trees - October Myth: Native Plants Are Always the Best Choice for Environmentally Sustainable Landscaping - September Myth: Planting Is Simple - Just Dig a Hole and Insert the Plant - August Myth: Any Action Taken in Defense of the Environment Is Justifiable - July Myth: Polyacrylamide Hydrogels are Environmentally Safe Substances that Reduce Irrigation Needs - June Myth: The Quality of Plant Material Is Directly Proportional to the Price - May Myth: Compost Tea Is an Effective Alternative to Traditional Pesticides - April Myth: Newly Planted Trees Must Be Firmly Staked - March Myth: Wound Dressings Protect Pruned Trees from Pathogen Damage - January Myth: Adding Coarse Material Improves Container Drainage - December Myth: Adding Sand Improves Clay Soil - November Myth: Pruning the Tops of New Transplants Compensates for Root Loss - October Myth: Phosphate Fertilizer Stimulates Root Growth upon Transplanting - September Myth: Adding Organic Amendments Improves Soil - August ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Fw: Katuk Plant From: "Edward Musgrave" Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 07:50:48 -0500 Hi Leo Does anyone in the Tampa Bay area know anything about This Plant? I would like to trade for cuttings of this Plant -----Original Message----- From: Edward Musgrave Here is more about the Katuk Plant . It sounds like a keeper . Pass it around to anyone who might know of it. It might be one to get. Ed Katuk (Sauropus androgynus) Katuk is a staple vegetable in Borneo where it grows as an understory tree in the lowland rainforests. Soil: reported to tolerate acid soils, our soil is circum-neutral and they like it. We recommend lime just in case. Water: probably needs plenty, can tolerate brief flooding. Sun: Prefers shade, but can probably tolerate full sun if given plenty of water. Cold: Will freeze in the winter, but should come back from the stump. Pruning: keep pruned to 3-6 feet tall. Propagation: easily propagated by cuttings of older wood stems. Strip the leaves and stick it in the ground in the shade. It probably needs cross pollination to produce seeds and all our plants are clones of one individual. Pests: none known. Other problems: tends to grow tall and lanky and then fall over. Growth slows in the winter and the taste is poor until it resumes vigor with warm weather .sayor manis) Harvesting and preparation: The leaves and flowers have a pea like flavor. In Borneo, it is often fertilized and irrigated under shade to produce fast growing tips that are very similar to asparagus. According to www.echotech.org it should probably be cooked, though it is also eaten raw. It has a pleasant peanut-like taste when eaten raw and the cooked leaves taste excellent as spinach. The plant is sold everywhere in Malaysia and nearby countries, where it is grown as an edible hedge. Malaysian scientists have developed a technique for forcing the shoot tips to grow extra long and tender by applying plenty of manure, water and (sometimes) shade. The 5-inch shoot tips (locally called sayor manis) are sold to upscale restaurants and also exported to Japan, and possibly elsewhere, as tropical asparagus. I ate these in a hotel in Malaysia and they were outstanding. The chef stir-fried them for one minute. (www.echotech.org) Edward Musgrave mailto:eamusg@tampabay.rr.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Olives & Olive Oil Workshop: Sat. Feb. 27th in Vista From: Cielo & Kevin Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 12:10:35 -0800 (PST) We're passing this information on to our members. If you're interested in attending this workshop, please respond to them directly -- see bottom of the email for how to register online or receive an application. If you register online or have your application postmarked by Feb. 19th, you save $10. -- Cielo The University of California Cooperative Extension, San Diego County Farm and Home Advisors Office in collaboration with Slow Food Urban San Diego, invite you to join us and listen to internationally known olive and olive oil expert Paul Vossen present a short course focusing on: Olives and Olive Oil: Production & Marketing Strategies for Southern California Location: Center for Applied Horticultural Research (CfAHR) 3742 Blue Bird Canyon Road/ Vista , CA 92084 / (760) 802-9787 Date/Time: Saturday February 27, 2010 from 8 am to 4 pm. Instructor: Paul Vossen, Farm Advisor - UCCE Sonoma County . Contact: Barbara Henderson @ (760)752-4724 for directions, for more information or for special accommodations you may need. Tentative Agenda: 8:00 am Registration (Coffee and Pastries) 8:30 am Introduction to Olive Oil Production (Site Selection, Climate, Water Requirements, Production Systems, Markets and Economics) 10:00 am Break 10:30 am Specialty Olive Oils (Variety Overview, Selection and Olive Oil Tasting (Please bring any locally produced olive oils you would like to share with Group!) 12:00 Noon Lunch (Catered by The Wild Thyme Company) 1:30 pm The Basics of Growing Olive Trees (Irrigation, nutrition, pruning & pest control) 3:00 pm Tentative / Site TBA: Field Demonstration and discussion of Cultural Practices 4:00 pm Adjourn The registration fee is $ 50.00 if postmarked or submitted online by February 19, 2010. $60.00 after that date or at the door. Lunch not guaranteed for walk in registrations! To register by mail you may download and print the announcement in PDF format and following the registration and mailing instructions provided. You may also register online and pay with a credit card at: http://ucanr.org/oliveshortcourse ------------------------------------------------ Subject: North S.D. County CRFG newsletter February 2010 Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:10:46 -0800 (PST) From: secetary nickerson March 6 Grafting Demo and Workshop: This will be a grafting workshop for deciduous trees. This will be held in Ben Pierces back yard (a map to Bens home is attached). The workshop will run from 9AM to 11:30 AM. The chapter has purchased some deciduous rootstock that can accept peach, apricot, and plum bud wood. Members with years of grafting experience will be on hand to demo and assist participants in grafting. If you have some scion wood, of this type, from the Jan exchange bring it you may get to graft it to a rootstock and take home your tree. All participants must be a member of our chapter and a member of CRFG Inc. for insurance purposes. There will be a $4.00 fee for each rootstock you use. Depending on availability, you may be able to purchase more than one rootstock. Participants should bring a grafting knife. This should be a paring size knife with a sharp edge; if you dont have one a utility knife that uses razor blades will work Club members are also asked to bring extra bud wood for use in grafting practice. Chapter Dues: Dues are $8.00 for newsletter via email, $12.00 for newsletter via USPS. Members dues are delinquent after March 1. Participants at the March 6 Workshop must be current in their dues for insurance purposes Please pay Dottie Logan at a meeting or mail to her at 702 Berkeley Way Vista, CA 92084. Bonsall Education Foundation: is a non-profit 501c3 that funds grants in support of academic excellence for the Bonsall Union School District. Julie Koleszar a board member has contacted our chapter for assistance in work parties in improving the landscapes at various campuses in Bonsall. She is seeking expertise in plant selection, gifts of plants/trees and volunteers. The dates are: Feb. 27, Mar. 13, and Mar. 21. Please contact her at mailto:jkoleszar@mindspring.com, or call 760-468-0154 for more info. Master Gardeners Spring Seminar-Mar. 27, at USD Tom Spellman of Dave Wilson Nurseries will be one of the speakers. For more info go to: Exotic Plant Sale April 3: at 3562 OLIVE HILL RD. FALLBROOK Call 760-451-9499 for more info. Meetings are usually held the 3rd Friday, 7 PM at Mira Costa College (MCC) One Bernard Dr., Oceanside in Room 7003 of the Horticultural Bldg. Feb. 19 th 7:00 PM Room 7003 Hort. Bldg. (MCC) Water Conservation- Steve Jacobs Mar. 19 th 7:00 PM Room 7003 Hort. Bldg. (MCC) Bamboo & Palms Ben Pierce Chair 760-744-4716 ncsdcrfg@cox.net Harry Nickerson mailto:crfg@sbcglobal.net <><><><> Announcements And Web Pages To Consider <><><><> San Diego Chapter California Rare Fruit Growers Meeting: Where: Casa del Prado Building Room 101, Balboa Park When: Fourth Wednesday Of Each Month (Except December) See: http://www.crfgsandiego.org http://nc.crfgsandiego.org For North County CRFG Chapter Meeting http://www.crfg.org/chapters.html For information about ALL CRFG chapters. <> Agricultural Research Service (ARS) ars>news@arsgrin.gov <> http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/thelatest.htm. None this time <><><><><><><><><> End of RFN201002B.txt <><><><><><><><><><> Rare Fruit News Online - March 1, 2010 - AKA RFN201003A.txt ___________________________________________________________ <><><><> Notes In Passing - Leo <><><><> In drought-stricken Southern California, did you ever expect to wish it would stop raining - at least for a few days? I guess El Nino is causing more-than-usual rainfall, at least here. How does it affect the weather in Florida? Or wherever you live? I've had over two weeks of chest problems, with coughing being the most noticeable effect. Asthma, bronchitis, and even pneumonia were thought possible for a while. So, I didn't get very active in the yard for a bit, but the weather would have kept me indoors, anyway. I'm much better, thanks, and will try to get some air-layering projects going. March is a good time to do it for such trees as guava, lychee, and longan. <><><><><><><><><> Table Of Contents <><><><><><><><><> -> -> -> Messages follow the Table Of Contents <- <- <- <><><> New Subscribers <><><> New Subscriber- S.Florida-Interested In Dragon Fruit Frank S. Caruso mailto:frank@blackmarlin.com New Subscriber - Pennsylvania - What Can I Grow? Wendy Gloffke mailto:Wgloffke@aol.com <><><> Readers Write <><><> Grow Papayas In San Diego Possible? Eliana Uretsky mailto:goeliana@yahoo.com No Back Issues of RFNO for 2009? Becky Tanamachi mailto:bgtanamachi@msn.com Raising brix to solve plant's problems? Grant Hammond mailto:gbhammond@mpinet.net Growing peppadews In S. Africa Niki Wessels mailto:mynah@mweb.co.za Peppadew is the brand name of sweet piquanté peppers Leo Manuel mailto:rarefruit@san.rr.com It's Official: El Nino For California In 2010 Leo Manuel mailto:rarefruit@san.rr.com -> -> -> -> -> -> Messages <- <- <- <- <- <- <><><><><><><><> New Subscribers <><><><><><><><><> Subject: New Subscriber- S.Florida-Interested In Dragon Fruit From: "Frank S. Caruso" Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 17:05:29 -0500 Hi, Frank Caruso here in south Fla. I am interested in Dragon fruit. Thanks, Frank mailto:frank@blackmarlin.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: New Subscriber - Pennsylvania - What Can I Grow? From: Wgloffke@aol.com Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 21:59:08 EST Hi! I'm a member of the Backyard Fruit Growers Association in Pennsylvania. To day, I attended workshop about unusual fruits where your website was mentioned. When I lived in Zone 6 in PA, I grew pawpaw, mulberry (not unusual, but nobody in my area grew it for fruit), persimmon, native plum, and osage orange on a very small lot. I recently moved to Zone 5 in Wyoming County, Pennsylvania and I'm just beginning to explore what unusual and native fruits I can grow here. I've planted tiny seedlings - pawpaw, persimmon, plum- and am trying to rejuvenate about a dozen old apple and pear trees that were neglected for many years. I'd love to grow more berry bushes, cherries, and find ways to grow warmer climate fruits. I lived in southern Texas and grew orange, grapefruit, mango, and banana trees...I miss them :-) Thank you! Wendy Gloffke mailto:wgloffke@aol.com [I've forwarded Wendy information about NAFEX, an organization for those interested in growing deciduous fruits and nuts. And, in case, she may want to grow sub-tropical fruits indoors, I forwarded information. I can send information on to anyone else who wishes it. -Leo] <><><><><><><><><> Readers Write<><><><><><><><><><> Subject: Grow Papayas In San Diego Possible? From: Eliana Uretsky Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 08:11:21 -0800 (PST) Hi Leo, Tom DelHotal mentioned that one can in fact grow papayas (Mexican) here in SD county. I'd always heard that one could not because it gets too cold in winter, or something. I am ten miles inland and would LOVE to grow them. Know anyone doing this? Also, I have a spot with a little less than full sun, but hardly part shade - maybe four hrs of direct sun a day, and I am wondering what small fruit tree I could successfully grow there. Thanks - someday I won't be in school and will be able to make it to a mtg! Eliana mailto:goeliana@yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: No Back Issues of RFNO for 2009? From: Becky Tanamachi Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 11:32:08 -0800 Leo, When I try to open the link for 2009 back issues, it only comes up with one page about the links for past issues. Is this correct? Thanks Becky mailto:bgtanamachi@msn.com [I apologize for being slow at publishing the back issues for 2009. In the meantime, if you want me to email you some, please let me know which ones. -Leo] ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Raising "brix" to solve plant's problems? From: "Grant Hammond" Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 09:44:07 -0500 Hi Leo, I'd like to comment briefly to your readers on Mark's short expose of raising "brix" levels in plants. It has long been a known fact that when one raises the "brix" (sugar levels) in ANY plant the plant is going to become more massive & strong. This process takes place just as Mark has eluded to. The more higher the "brix" levels in your plants (IE: Fruits, vegetables, vegetables, flowers, ornamentals, citrus, nuts, etc.)the better the plant's ability to defend it's self from ALL plant problems. Whether it be a problem with pests, or pathogens, all ORGANICALLY. Large Agriculture Chemical companies know this fact. But because the agricultural chemical business is so vast and PROFITABLE (to them anyway) They don't want truly "eco-friendly" all organic products on the market. That is all going to change in 2011. 2011 is when the EPA is going to mandate to take a tremendous amount of what farmers, nurseries, organic U-Pick-em farms use today to grow their crops and plants. So, yes products like "Atomic Grow" ( www.atomicgrow.info ) are just now being discovered by a "grass roots" (no pun intended (lol) movement to go all organic. For more information on how this process works, and real testimonies of satisfied users go to www.atomicgrow.info and find out how Atomic Grow offers more plant protection with less costs all organically. Grant Hammond mailto:gbhammond@atomicgrow.info www.atomicgrow.info ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Growing peppadews In S. Africa From: "Niki Wessels" Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:43:37 +0200 We bought a tray of peppadew seedlings in November (which was, of course, early summer here in the Southern Hemisphere). We gave away two and planted the others in large pots. Of the four we kept, three grew into fairly modest (30 - 40 cm) plants, and bear ordinary-sized fruit. The fourth plant, however, stands over 1,1 m high, has leaves the size of my hand, and is laden with fruit 5 cm (2 inches) in diameter, with more of all sizes forming. At the moment all are still green. Strangely I find information about these chillies very hard to come by. Hope someone can help: How high does the plant grow, for instance, and is it annual or perennial? Are the fruit actually sweet when ripe, or is the sweetness due to the preservation method? (I've never eaten a fresh one or come across anyone who had - perhaps because the plants have only become freely available where I live in the past two or three years.) I'm also hoping to grow Tricolor sweet peppers, though I can't find seed or seedlings for sale. Is it possible to grow peppers from the seeds taken from ripe fruit? [Those varieties are new to me, but perhaps not to all readers. I'd certainly try growing the seeds from the ripened fruit, but if it's hybridized, the parents may be quite different from the progeny. -Leo] Niki mailto:mynah@mweb.co.za Centurion, South Africa ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Peppadew is the brand name of sweet piquanté peppers From: Leo Manuel Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:26:10 -0800 Peppadew is the brand name of sweet piquanté peppers (a breed of Capsicum baccatum) grown in the Limpopo province of South Africa. The flavor of the Peppadew fruit is sweet, with just a touch of heat (around 1,177 on the Scoville scale[1]). It goes well stuffed with soft cheeses, such as cream cheese or sheep goat or buffalo cheeses ( i.e. feta or mozzarella), as Peppadew mention on their website, and they can be bought ready stuffed with cheese. they can be added to many dishes such as kebabs, salads, pizza, omelettes and sandwiches. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peppadew [Sounds great! Anyone seen seeds in the U.S.? -Leo] ------------------------------------------------ Subject: It's Official: El Nino For California In 2010 From: Leo Manuel Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:15:13 -0800 Its Official: El Nino For California In 2010 Forecasters Predict Wet Weather Through March By Ed Joyce January 20, 2010 The recent wave of storms to hit California is being related to El Nino conditions. The National Weather Service long-range forecast has the wet pattern continuing through March. Forecasters say next week will bring a break in the storms, but the National Weather Service forecasts wet weather in California from now through March. El nino is characterized by unusually warm temperatures in the equatorial Pacific Ocean. Tim Barnett is a climatologist with the Scripps Institution of Oceanography. He says the series of storms in California are linked to El nino conditions. "Yes, it's a classical situation," Barnett said. "The thing that is worrisome is that the current storm coming in really has no legs to the Tropics, it has no moisture source and it's going to be bad enough. The one that's west of Hawaii right now has a very good flow of moisture from the equatorial Pacific up into that storm itself. So it's going to be a very different kind of critter." Barnett expects the wet trend to continue. "This week has certainly been more severe than usual, to have this many storms and the jet stream as strong as it is, is unusual. But to have more such events between now and the end of March, I would expect them." Tuesday's storm even brought tornado warnings to Los Angeles, Orange and San Diego Counties. Several reportedly touched down along the coast in Orange County causing minor damage. Barnett says tornadoes are rare for California and it is less likely that those events will happen with any frequency in the next few months. But he said rain and snow are near certainties. "We're pretty much locked into the (El Nino) pattern now," Barnett said. "It generally happens from the middle of January to the middle of February. You get about two months from when it locks in to when the El nino dies and right now it doesn't show any signs of dying." Water managers welcome the wet pattern, but Barnett says even an El nino winter won't make up for three years of drought. "It will take some doing for that to happen," said Barnett. "And one could say 'Well, we just got lucky.' Had we not had this we could have easily had another few more years of drought. As you know, water-wise, we're right on the edge anyway and the future in that regard doesn't look bright." Forecasters predict the storm surge to be higher due to a combination of high surf with 15 to 20-foot breakers, strong south to southwest winds at 25 to 35 mph with gusts greater than 50 mph, overland runoff from heavy rains and high tides just under five feet. The National Weather Service warns the storm surge will likely cause extensive beach erosion and local overflow into low lying areas in San Diego County including Cardiff, Del Mar and La Jolla. The storm surge may also cause damage to piers, jetties and sea walls. But keep those umbrellas and sandbags handy. More rain is predicted. http://www.kpbs.org/news/2010/jan/20/its-official-el-nino-california/ [February 27 rainfall showed a bit over 1.5 inches in our rain gauge for the previous few days. We've had far more than the usual annual rainfall since January 1. Wish I had room for a cistern or other water-gathering system. By the way, if you want to talk to who recently installed water-gatering tanks and pumps, I suggest Dick Snow mailto:rhsnowsr@cox.net -Leo] <><><><> Announcements And Web Pages To Consider <><><><> San Diego Chapter California Rare Fruit Growers Meeting: Where: Casa del Prado Building Room 101, Balboa Park When: Fourth Wednesday Of Each Month (Except December) See: http://www.crfgsandiego.org http://nc.crfgsandiego.org For North County CRFG Chapter Meeting http://www.crfg.org/chapters.html For information about ALL CRFG chapters. <> Agricultural Research Service (ARS) ars>news@arsgrin.gov <> http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/thelatest.htm. None this time <><><><><><><><><> End of RFN201003A.txt <><><><><><><><><><> Rare Fruit News Online - March 15, 2010 - AKA RFN201003B.txt _____________________________________________________________ <><><><> Notes In Passing - Leo <><><><> What can we do in March? Probably what Floridians have already done in April? I like to place air layers in or before March of Guavas, Lychees, and Longans. I have successfully layered Mango and Cherimoya, but only seedlings (not grafts). What I like to do is wait until after the first of the year to take them off, because sometimes they die if taken too soon. Deciduous fruit blooms affected by rain? In the past, I've noticed that when some deciduous fruit trees bloom during a rainy spell, the fruit set is quite small - especially for apricots. I've had both peach and apricots bloom during the rainy spell we recently had..... Thanks for your letters. Keep them coming, please. <><><><><><><><><> Table Of Contents <><><><><><><><><> -> -> -> Messages follow the Table Of Contents <- <- <- <><><> New Subscribers <><><> None this time <><><> Readers Write <><><> RE: El Nino, Rainfall Changes, etc. Oscar Jaitt RE: El Nino, Rainfall Changes, etc. Vital Scherrer RE: Grow Papayas In San Diego Possible? Vital Scherrer To: Eliana Wendy in Pennsylvania should consider figs? "Bert Dunn" Wishing You Well and Strange Weather-San Diego John Brode RE: El Nino, Rainfall Changes, etc. Ollie Patterson Encinitas Garden Festival Tickets on Sale now N Sterman -> -> -> -> -> -> Messages <- <- <- <- <- <- <><><><><><><><> New Subscribers <><><><><><><><><> None this time <><><><><><><><><> Readers Write<><><><><><><><><><> Subject: RE: El Nino, Rainfall Changes, etc. From: Oscar Jaitt Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:16:15 -1000 Leo, seems like you are getting the rain that usually falls here in our tropical rainforest in Hawaii, because it has been very dry the last couple of months. Not good for plants or people. About 1/3 of the island population, including myself, are on water catchment tanks. So many of us are totally dependent on rain for our drinking water, bathing water, and yes water for watering the plants. A lot of people have had to purchase water from companies that truck it in and pump it into your tank. According to one article in the newspaper i read here the El Nino conditions are predicted to persist until May! I hope that is incorrect! Seems a shame that with so much rain falling on normally parched Southern California so few people are able to catch and store that precious water for future use. If you want to learn how to do that just come over here and anyone can show you. Oscar, East Hawaii mailto:fruitlovers@hotmail.com [Knowing how to store water is less of a problem than finding space in our small city lots for the storage devices. -Leo] ------------------------------------------------ Subject: RE: El Nino, Rainfall Changes, etc. From: Vital Scherrer Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 09:25:23 +0000 > From: rarefruit@san.rr.com > To: vital233@hotmail.com > Subject: Rare Fruit News Online - March 1, 2010 > Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:57:01 -0800 > I guess El Nino is causing more-than-usual rainfall, > at least here. How does it affect the weather in Florida? > Or wherever you live? Hello, Here on Madeira island, off the coast of northern Africa, we are experiencing the rainiest and windiest winter in decades. And I thought that last winter was particularly wet. I remember when the last El Nino occurred, we got an unusually humid summer too, with quite a lot of crop failures. I heard that with the rising global temperatures, the El Nino might become the rule. I.e., wherever this phenomenon causes droughts, its better to prepare for a lot more of this to come. It is known that e.g. in the western part of the American continent(s) (north and south), including where there are deserts now, that these regions have been getting plenty of regular precipitation not that many centuries ago. There are also reports that the northern edge of the Sahara desert has been getting more rainfall in the past few years. Cheerios Vital mailto:fruitlovers@hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: RE: Grow Papayas In San Diego Possible? From: Vital Scherrer Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 10:52:13 +0000 CC: Eliana > Subject: Grow Papayas In San Diego Possible? > From: Eliana Uretsky > Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 08:11:21 -0800 (PST) > Also, I have a spot with a little less than full sun, but hardly > part shade - maybe four hrs of direct sun a day, and I am > wondering what small fruit tree I could successfully grow there. Hello Eliana, Sounds like this could be a more protected spot, so you might want to try a tropical fruit, which doesn't require a lot of sunshine. The species which usually don't grow into huge trees, are in their native habitats normally growing in the shade of the larger trees, so why not try papaya or banana? Though if you're experiencing frost in your area, it would be preferable if the shading would come from above rather than from the sides. Citrus trees are quite shade tolerant too, and many of them would tolerate light freezing temperatures. Good luck! Vital mailto:fruitlovers@hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Wendy in Pennsylvania should consider figs From: "Bert Dunn" Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 07:31:31 -0500 Wendy should consider figs. We have 7 varieties- most of them over 10 years old so it can be done in our cold brrrrr climate Bert Dunn Box 352 mailto:fruitlovers@hotmail.com Schomberg L0G 1T0 zone 4b/5a 905 880 4453 > Subject: New Subscriber - Pennsylvania - What Can I Grow? > From: Wgloffke@aol.com > Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 21:59:08 EST > > > Hi! > > I'm a member of the Backyard Fruit Growers Association in > Pennsylvania. To day, I attended workshop about unusual fruits > where your website was mentioned. When I lived in Zone 6 in PA, I > grew pawpaw, mulberry (not unusual, but nobody in my area grew it > for fruit), persimmon, native plum, and osage orange on a very > small lot. I recently moved to Zone 5 in Wyoming County, > Pennsylvania and I'm just beginning to explore what unusual and > native fruits I can grow here. I've planted tiny seedlings - > pawpaw, persimmon, plum- and am trying to rejuvenate about a > dozen old apple and pear trees that were neglected for many > years. I'd love to grow more berry bushes, cherries, and find > ways to grow warmer climate fruits. I lived in southern Texas > and grew orange, grapefruit, mango, and banana trees...I miss > them :-) > > Thank you! > > Wendy Gloffke mailto:wgloffke@aol.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Re: Rare Fruit News Online - March 1, 2010 From: John Brode Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 03:13:41 GMT Hope you feel better leo. This has been kinda wet and it isn't finished yet. More rain coming in this weekend... Strange with our very warm/hot days... Then quite cold again.. Out here in El Cajon it was up to 89 degrees just a couple of weeks ago... Then had the cold winter storms.. Hope to hear you are well enough to start gardening soon..Aren't we all waiting for the springtime.. Our best, marion and john mailto:marionjohnbrodie@msn.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: RE: El Nino, Rainfall Changes, etc. From: Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 11:21:30 -0500 Hi Leo, El Nino affects Florida's winters in a similar way--lots of rain, overcast conditions, colder daytime temperatures, and occasional tornados (sometimes even F4's). It's terrible weather for lychees, which flower much better with dry winters. If we get a freeze, it tends to be less severe in terms of minimum temperature, but of longer duration (e.g., 28 degrees for 8 hours instead of 25 degrees for 2 hours). At least that's *my* impression. During this year's devastating freeze, my macadamia nut and white sapote trees were completely unaffected, but mangoes, carambolas, jakfruit, etc. were hit very hard. Each kind of tree responds very differently to the type of freeze, I've learned. Avocados freeze in a very weird way, for example. It's as if the leaves can tolerate the cold, but the wood cannot, so you'll see an entire branch that's completely dead on a tree that's otherwise green. Strange. Ollie Patterson mailto:ollie_patterson@embarqmail.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Encinitas Garden Festival Tickets on Sale now From: N Sterman Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 19:13:33 -0800 Encinitas Garden Festival & Tour Saturday April 17, 2010 10 am to 4 pm Credit Card help for you! Click here! Tickets and Reservations on Sale NOW! Reserve your spot TODAY at www.EncinitasGardenFestival.org OR Purchase tickets at Barrels and Branches Nursery Anderson La Costa Nursery Weidener's Gardens Adult advance tickets and reservations $21 Children (age 10 and younger) $7 If space remains on tour day, prices are $25/adults, $10 children The tour fills up quickly so don't delay! Enjoy a self-guided walking tour of south Leucadia Visit more than 20 sights including * Private gardens * Greenhouses * The Monarch Butterfly Program * Encinitas' newest fire station, its garden and fire trucks * Ecke Elementary School Garden * And lots, lots more.... Click here for photos of this year's tour gardens Free Gardeners' Marketplace at Orpheus Park This year's Gardener's Marketplace is better than ever! * Garden art, tools, low water plants, and more * Talks about sustainable gardening, saving water in the garden, growing edibles, gardening with children, etc. * Information about using water wisely, invasive plants, and sustainable living * Snacks and lunch There is still time to sign up as a volunteer or an event sponsor * About the Encinitas Garden Festival and Tour Now in its fifth year, the Encinitas Garden Festival & Tour is run entirely by volunteers. A partnership with the Coastal Community Foundation enables a portion of event profits to support: * School gardens * Scripps Memorial Hospital Healing Garden * Gardening books for area libraries * Other community projects Parking Park ONLY at San Dieguito Academy, 800 Santa Fe Drive, Encinitas, CA 92024. Buses run between the parking lot and the Festival Marketplace from 9:30 am to 5 pm. Things to Note This is a self-guided walking tour. Wear a hat, sunscreen, and comfortable shoes. Buses shuttle visitors between the parking lot and the tour neighborhood. Some gardens are unsuitable for wheelchairs, strollers, and people unsure of their footing. Bring a camera. Enjoy! http://www.EncinitasGardenFestival.orgaa N Sterman mailto:info@encinitasgardenfestival.org <><><><> Announcements And Web Pages To Consider <><><><> San Diego Chapter California Rare Fruit Growers Meeting: Where: Casa del Prado Building Room 101, Balboa Park When: Fourth Wednesday Of Each Month (Except December) See: http://www.crfgsandiego.org http://nc.crfgsandiego.org For North County CRFG Chapter Meeting http://www.crfg.org/chapters.html For information about ALL CRFG chapters. <> Agricultural Research Service (ARS) ars>news@arsgrin.gov <> http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/thelatest.htm. None this time <><><><><><><><><> End of RFN201003A.txt <><><><><><><><><><> Rare Fruit News Online - March 15, 2010 - AKA RFN201003B.txt _____________________________________________________________ <><><><> Notes In Passing - Leo <><><><> What can we do in March? Probably what Floridians have already done in April? I like to place air layers in or before March of Guavas, Lychees, and Longans. I have successfully layered Mango and Cherimoya, but only seedlings (not grafts). What I like to do is wait until after the first of the year to take them off, because sometimes they die if taken too soon. Deciduous fruit blooms affected by rain? In the past, I've noticed that when some deciduous fruit trees bloom during a rainy spell, the fruit set is quite small - especially for apricots. I've had both peach and apricots bloom during the rainy spell we recently had..... Thanks for your letters. Keep them coming, please. <><><><><><><><><> Table Of Contents <><><><><><><><><> -> -> -> Messages follow the Table Of Contents <- <- <- <><><> New Subscribers <><><> None this time <><><> Readers Write <><><> RE: El Nino, Rainfall Changes, etc. Oscar Jaitt RE: El Nino, Rainfall Changes, etc. Vital Scherrer RE: Grow Papayas In San Diego Possible? Vital Scherrer To: Eliana Wendy in Pennsylvania should consider figs? "Bert Dunn" Wishing You Well and Strange Weather-San Diego John Brode RE: El Nino, Rainfall Changes, etc. Ollie Patterson Encinitas Garden Festival Tickets on Sale now N Sterman -> -> -> -> -> -> Messages <- <- <- <- <- <- <><><><><><><><> New Subscribers <><><><><><><><><> None this time <><><><><><><><><> Readers Write<><><><><><><><><><> Subject: RE: El Nino, Rainfall Changes, etc. From: Oscar Jaitt Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:16:15 -1000 Leo, seems like you are getting the rain that usually falls here in our tropical rainforest in Hawaii, because it has been very dry the last couple of months. Not good for plants or people. About 1/3 of the island population, including myself, are on water catchment tanks. So many of us are totally dependent on rain for our drinking water, bathing water, and yes water for watering the plants. A lot of people have had to purchase water from companies that truck it in and pump it into your tank. According to one article in the newspaper i read here the El Nino conditions are predicted to persist until May! I hope that is incorrect! Seems a shame that with so much rain falling on normally parched Southern California so few people are able to catch and store that precious water for future use. If you want to learn how to do that just come over here and anyone can show you. Oscar, East Hawaii mailto:fruitlovers@hotmail.com [Knowing how to store water is less of a problem than finding space in our small city lots for the storage devices. -Leo] ------------------------------------------------ Subject: RE: El Nino, Rainfall Changes, etc. From: Vital Scherrer Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 09:25:23 +0000 > From: rarefruit@san.rr.com > To: vital233@hotmail.com > Subject: Rare Fruit News Online - March 1, 2010 > Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:57:01 -0800 > I guess El Nino is causing more-than-usual rainfall, > at least here. How does it affect the weather in Florida? > Or wherever you live? Hello, Here on Madeira island, off the coast of northern Africa, we are experiencing the rainiest and windiest winter in decades. And I thought that last winter was particularly wet. I remember when the last El Nino occurred, we got an unusually humid summer too, with quite a lot of crop failures. I heard that with the rising global temperatures, the El Nino might become the rule. I.e., wherever this phenomenon causes droughts, its better to prepare for a lot more of this to come. It is known that e.g. in the western part of the American continent(s) (north and south), including where there are deserts now, that these regions have been getting plenty of regular precipitation not that many centuries ago. There are also reports that the northern edge of the Sahara desert has been getting more rainfall in the past few years. Cheerios Vital mailto:fruitlovers@hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: RE: Grow Papayas In San Diego Possible? From: Vital Scherrer Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 10:52:13 +0000 CC: Eliana > Subject: Grow Papayas In San Diego Possible? > From: Eliana Uretsky > Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 08:11:21 -0800 (PST) > Also, I have a spot with a little less than full sun, but hardly > part shade - maybe four hrs of direct sun a day, and I am > wondering what small fruit tree I could successfully grow there. Hello Eliana, Sounds like this could be a more protected spot, so you might want to try a tropical fruit, which doesn't require a lot of sunshine. The species which usually don't grow into huge trees, are in their native habitats normally growing in the shade of the larger trees, so why not try papaya or banana? Though if you're experiencing frost in your area, it would be preferable if the shading would come from above rather than from the sides. Citrus trees are quite shade tolerant too, and many of them would tolerate light freezing temperatures. Good luck! Vital mailto:fruitlovers@hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Wendy in Pennsylvania should consider figs From: "Bert Dunn" Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 07:31:31 -0500 Wendy should consider figs. We have 7 varieties- most of them over 10 years old so it can be done in our cold brrrrr climate Bert Dunn Box 352 mailto:fruitlovers@hotmail.com Schomberg L0G 1T0 zone 4b/5a 905 880 4453 > Subject: New Subscriber - Pennsylvania - What Can I Grow? > From: Wgloffke@aol.com > Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 21:59:08 EST > > > Hi! > > I'm a member of the Backyard Fruit Growers Association in > Pennsylvania. To day, I attended workshop about unusual fruits > where your website was mentioned. When I lived in Zone 6 in PA, I > grew pawpaw, mulberry (not unusual, but nobody in my area grew it > for fruit), persimmon, native plum, and osage orange on a very > small lot. I recently moved to Zone 5 in Wyoming County, > Pennsylvania and I'm just beginning to explore what unusual and > native fruits I can grow here. I've planted tiny seedlings - > pawpaw, persimmon, plum- and am trying to rejuvenate about a > dozen old apple and pear trees that were neglected for many > years. I'd love to grow more berry bushes, cherries, and find > ways to grow warmer climate fruits. I lived in southern Texas > and grew orange, grapefruit, mango, and banana trees...I miss > them :-) > > Thank you! > > Wendy Gloffke mailto:wgloffke@aol.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Re: Rare Fruit News Online - March 1, 2010 From: John Brode Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 03:13:41 GMT Hope you feel better leo. This has been kinda wet and it isn't finished yet. More rain coming in this weekend... Strange with our very warm/hot days... Then quite cold again.. Out here in El Cajon it was up to 89 degrees just a couple of weeks ago... Then had the cold winter storms.. Hope to hear you are well enough to start gardening soon..Aren't we all waiting for the springtime.. Our best, marion and john mailto:marionjohnbrodie@msn.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: RE: El Nino, Rainfall Changes, etc. From: Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 11:21:30 -0500 Hi Leo, El Nino affects Florida's winters in a similar way--lots of rain, overcast conditions, colder daytime temperatures, and occasional tornados (sometimes even F4's). It's terrible weather for lychees, which flower much better with dry winters. If we get a freeze, it tends to be less severe in terms of minimum temperature, but of longer duration (e.g., 28 degrees for 8 hours instead of 25 degrees for 2 hours). At least that's *my* impression. During this year's devastating freeze, my macadamia nut and white sapote trees were completely unaffected, but mangoes, carambolas, jakfruit, etc. were hit very hard. Each kind of tree responds very differently to the type of freeze, I've learned. Avocados freeze in a very weird way, for example. It's as if the leaves can tolerate the cold, but the wood cannot, so you'll see an entire branch that's completely dead on a tree that's otherwise green. Strange. Ollie Patterson mailto:ollie_patterson@embarqmail.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Encinitas Garden Festival Tickets on Sale now From: N Sterman Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 19:13:33 -0800 Encinitas Garden Festival & Tour Saturday April 17, 2010 10 am to 4 pm Credit Card help for you! Click here! Tickets and Reservations on Sale NOW! Reserve your spot TODAY at www.EncinitasGardenFestival.org OR Purchase tickets at Barrels and Branches Nursery Anderson La Costa Nursery Weidener's Gardens Adult advance tickets and reservations $21 Children (age 10 and younger) $7 If space remains on tour day, prices are $25/adults, $10 children The tour fills up quickly so don't delay! Enjoy a self-guided walking tour of south Leucadia Visit more than 20 sights including * Private gardens * Greenhouses * The Monarch Butterfly Program * Encinitas' newest fire station, its garden and fire trucks * Ecke Elementary School Garden * And lots, lots more.... Click here for photos of this year's tour gardens Free Gardeners' Marketplace at Orpheus Park This year's Gardener's Marketplace is better than ever! * Garden art, tools, low water plants, and more * Talks about sustainable gardening, saving water in the garden, growing edibles, gardening with children, etc. * Information about using water wisely, invasive plants, and sustainable living * Snacks and lunch There is still time to sign up as a volunteer or an event sponsor * About the Encinitas Garden Festival and Tour Now in its fifth year, the Encinitas Garden Festival & Tour is run entirely by volunteers. A partnership with the Coastal Community Foundation enables a portion of event profits to support: * School gardens * Scripps Memorial Hospital Healing Garden * Gardening books for area libraries * Other community projects Parking Park ONLY at San Dieguito Academy, 800 Santa Fe Drive, Encinitas, CA 92024. Buses run between the parking lot and the Festival Marketplace from 9:30 am to 5 pm. Things to Note This is a self-guided walking tour. Wear a hat, sunscreen, and comfortable shoes. Buses shuttle visitors between the parking lot and the tour neighborhood. Some gardens are unsuitable for wheelchairs, strollers, and people unsure of their footing. Bring a camera. Enjoy! http://www.EncinitasGardenFestival.orgaa N Sterman mailto:info@encinitasgardenfestival.org <><><><> Announcements And Web Pages To Consider <><><><> San Diego Chapter California Rare Fruit Growers Meeting: Where: Casa del Prado Building Room 101, Balboa Park When: Fourth Wednesday Of Each Month (Except December) See: http://www.crfgsandiego.org http://nc.crfgsandiego.org For North County CRFG Chapter Meeting http://www.crfg.org/chapters.html For information about ALL CRFG chapters. <> Agricultural Research Service (ARS) ars>news@arsgrin.gov <> http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/thelatest.htm. None this time <><><><><><><><><> End of RFN201001A.txt <><><><><><><><><><> Rare Fruit News Online - April 1, 2010 - AKA RFN201004A.txt ___________________________________________________________ <><><><> Notes In Passing - Leo <><><><> Brewster lychee with two consecutive years of significant fruit crop? It will be for the first time, if true, But the tree is covered with bloom. I bought my tree in 1997 from Exotica Nursery, and is now quite large. Perhaps it takes this long to get into full production? Thanks to the contributors to this issue. You'll find several stimulating fruit tree topics such as pawpaws, mulberries, and jujubes. Respond with your experiences and opinions, to "keep the pot boiling." All letters are greatly appreciated, and if you have trouble getting my attention with your email, please send it again, ESPECIALLY is you have a Gmail address My three addresses are mailto:rarefruit@san.rr.com or mailto:leo92129@Yahoo.com or mailto:rarefruit.manuel@gmail.com (The only way I can get Gmail is if it's sent to my Gmail address.) <><><><><><><><><> Table Of Contents <><><><><><><><><> -> -> -> Messages follow the Table Of Contents <- <- <- <><><> New Subscribers <><><> New Subscriber-Mira Mesa Suburb of San Diego Narcisa Marquez New Subscriber How to Grow Cherimoya From Seed? Pat Banttari Re: How to Grow Cherimoya From Seed? Leo Manuel To: jane smith <><><> Readers Write <><><> Florida Rain & Frost Damage Edward Musgrave Report-Kahalu'u windward side of Oahu, Hawaii NOELLA CAMBRA My New webpages-Dragon Fruit Cooking And Food Ideas William Chow RE: What Is This Tree? Oscar Jaitt Light Brown Apple Moth In Bonsall (San Diego County) CE San Diego To: re: Acknowledge Pawpaw Information Received, Please Leo Manuel To: Michael Zarky Pawpaws ­ My Observation and Yours, Please Michael Zarky Re: Best Jujubes For Eating Fresh? Roger Meyer To: Leo Manuel Jujube Or Chinese Date (Zizyphus Jujuba) Thumbnail Sketch Roger Meyer Jujube Scionwood, Plant Availablility, and Jujube Book Roger Meyer Mulberries Steve Ashley -> -> -> -> -> -> Messages <- <- <- <- <- <- <><><><><><><><> New Subscribers <><><><><><><><><> Subject: New Subscriber-Mira Mesa Suburb of San Diego From: Narcisa Marquez Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 08:13:55 -0700 (PDT) Hi I am Narcisa Marquez, in the San Diego suburb of Mira Mesa. Some fruit trees I am now growing are Calamansi, guava, and apple. Some I want to grow is the Mango tree. Tell me if you can suggest sources of mango trees in the San Diego area. Narcisa Marquez mailto:marqueznarcisa@yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: New Subscriber "How to Grow Cherimoya From Seed?" From: "Pat Banttari" Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 12:15:14 -0700 My name is Pat Banttari, Hesperia Ca. I now grow peaches, nectarines, cherries, ,an apricot, loquot, tangelo (in my greenhouse) and an apple tree. I recently purchased one Cherimoya fruit at the local Farmer's Market and saved the seeds. The fruit was delicious. I'd like to grow the tree from these seeds. Being a Master Gardener, I am interested in saving Heirloom seed of many types. This fruit is as fascinating as it is yummy. Any help you can offer on growing my seeds is appreciated. Pat Banttari mailto:gardenersgrits@yahoo.com http://www.dynamicorganics.net ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Re: GROWING CHERIMOYA FROM SEED From: Leo Manuel To: jane smith Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 13:30:34 -0700 Hi Pat My three big cherimoya trees were all grown from seed. It will take a while to get the seedlings up to producing size, but if the fruit was good, the fruit from the seedlings should also be. Leo <><><><><><><><><> Readers Write<><><><><><><><><><> Subject: Florida Rain & Frost Damage From: "Edward Musgrave" Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 08:47:37 -0400 Hi Leo I am still looking for Katuk cuttings. In FL we have had both frost and cold rain it hurt most of my Rare Fruit, I had about 120 or more Rare fruit trees . I won't know how much I still have until they all sprout out . The vegetables are about all that has come back. The yard looks terrible except for the plums & yellow jabadicaba blooms . Ed Zone 9b mailto:eamusg@tampabay.rr.com. ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Report-Kahalu'u windward side of Oahu, Hawaii From: NOELLA CAMBRA Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 08:52:49 -1000 My name is Nick, I already get your newsletter, and find it interesting, but I only read certain questions/answers. I live in Kahalu'u on the windward side of Oahu, Hawaii, a wet, warm area. My email address is the hawaiian69@hotmail.com and I currently have over forty trees that grow very well but not all bear fruit. The ones that bear well are Kahalu'u Avocado's, a few different jujubes, jabong, three different varieties of guavas, bananas, jakfruit, soursop, limes, vee's (sp), serinam cherries and starfruit. I started planting about five years ago, most are grafts or air-layers. The trees that bear sparingly are several varieties of mangos, varieties of tangerines, ever-bearing longons (sp), Brazilian cherries, Acerola cherries, pomegranites, cherimoya and plums. The ones that are at least five years old that do not bear are the jaboticaba, several citrus (limes, tangelos), Japan pears, tamarind, and rambutan. I have also planted a few more in the past few years but do not expect them to bear yet. Thank you for all your help. Nick Cambra mailto:pakenoe@hawaii.rr.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: My New webpages-Dragon Fruit Cooking And Food Ideas From: William Chow Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:53:33 -0700 (PDT) Hi Leo, Here is my new webpage on dragon fruit cooking and food ideas. You'll see a lot of resturant serving ideas from Maylaysia. http://www.vivapitaya.com/food.htm I also made a webpage on mushrooms: http://www.forestmulch.com/mushroom.htm The mango tree you gave me is flowering. It is doing well. Happy St. Patrick's Day! William mailto:williamwchow@yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: RE: What Is This Tree? From: Oscar Jaitt Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:50:50 -1000 Common name is yellow jaboticaba, in spanish it is cabelluda, latin name is Myrciaria glazioviana. In past was incorrectly called Myrciaria tomentosa. Oscar mailto:fruitlovers@hotmail.com [Thanks, Oscar!] > Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:58:10 -0700 > From: rarefruit@san.rr.com > To: fruitlovers@hotmail.com; vital233@hotmail.com > Subject: FWD: What Is This Tree? > > > Nick says: I bought this tree from a hardware store during a > going-out-of-business sale. > > The leaves reminded me of pulusan but I am not sure about the fruit. > It grows directly on the branch like jaboticaba. > > W. Nick Cambra ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Light Brown Apple Moth In Bonsall (San Diego County) From: "CE San Diego" Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:38:24 -0700 To: Attention Growers! A Light Brown Apple Moth has been found in the Bonsall area. A second find will trigger a quarantine. An informational meeting about this pest and possible requirements is scheduled for Tuesday, March 23, 2010 at the San Diego County Farm Bureau at 3:00 pm. Please see the attached flyer for more information and photos of the Light Brown Apple Moth. Questions may be directed to (760) 752-4700 or mailto:sdcawm@sdcounty.ca.gov Thank you, Gary S. Bender, Ph.D. mailto:gsbender@ucdavis.edu Farm Advisor Subtropical Horticulture James Bethke mailto:jabethke@ucdavis.edu Floriculture and Nursery Farm Advisor Ramiro Lobo mailto:relobo@ucdavis.edu Farm Advisor Small Farms University of California Cooperative Extension 151 E. Carmel Street San Marcos, CA 92078 [Too late to make plans to attend the meeting, but perhaps not to take heed of the threat? Please let us know if you learn more about this. -Leo] ------------------------------------------------ Subject: re: Acknowledge Pawpaw Information Received, Please From: Leo Manuel Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:30:04 -0700 To: Michael Zarky Hi Michael I'm disturbed that neither of my two usually reliable addresses worked. I only got it on the worst one - gmail. It's worst because it refuses to forward any email to me, so I have to go to their webmail address to get it. Can you send me whatever you sent on pawpaws again by all three so I can have it for the newsletter. This shouldn't happen especially to someone with a newsletter! Thanks for trying again! Leo > From Michael Zarky > to rarefruit.manuel@gmail.com > cc rarefruit@san.rr.com, leo92129@yahoo.com > date Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:58 PM > Subject Acknowledge Pawpaw Information Received, Please > > Hi Leo, > > I sent you a letter for the newsletter; given that something I > sent last year got lost or something, I'm asking you let me know > that you received that at your san.rr.com address. I'm sending > this to all 3 so figure this will get through. Hope I can get a > discussion going on pawpaws. > > Thanks, and hope you are doing well, > Michael > > Michael Zarky > 10963 Citrus Drive > Moorpark, CA USA 93021 ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Let's Talk About Pawpaws, Please From: Michael Zarky Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:14:28 -0700 Pawpaws Hi Fruit Growers, I'd like to give some of my experiences growing pawpaws in southern California, and hope that others will chime in with their own observations. Not that many people seem to grow this fruit so it will be helpful to get thoughts from others whose paths may not cross mine outside of this newsletter. I'm in Moorpark, Ventura County; somewhat inland, the temps are quite cool at night, and being at the bottom of a hill I get at least a little frost each winter. So there is plenty of chill here. Ventura water is pH 8.1, so I mixed sulfur in the soil to help with the acidity. About 15 years ago I bought 4 varieties; only one survived, and if I could just find my map I would know for sure whether it is Sunflower, or Prolific; a little graft of the other is also on this tree. [Almost all pawpaws are self-sterile]. These trees were an expensive experiment; but I did get some fruit and grew some seedlings; six have matured, in 3 clusters, and maybe are in some soil a bit more to their liking, as the are as big as the Prolific (tallest are about 12'; and they don't seem too interested in getting much taller, which is perfect by me). Onto those seedlings I also grafted some varieties sent me; Sweet Alice and Mary Foos Johnson survive. The trees are kept well-mulched with wood chips I get from tree trimmers - I just listen for that sweet sound of the chipper.... They don't get any other feeding. My citrus have done very well with this regimen for 15 years. I do sometimes use a kelp foliar spray. I spend some time during bloom season hand-pollinating, as with cherimoyas, although I certainly note that some fruit sets without that, above a level I can reach without a ladder. I did notice some small flies hanging around the blossoms; however, I'm reluctant to forgo helping pollinate, in case I got too little fruit set. Here are the kinds of things I would like comment on: The fruit is often on very thin twigs and sometimes breaks the twigs from its own weight. Is this normal? What can I do to strengthen the branches? Should I perhaps thin the clusters? that doesn't seem to be necessary for a pawpaw in its native range, it is never suggested. The description of the fruits at the main research site www.pawpaw.kysu.edu which leads to http://www.pawpaw.kysu.edu/pawpaw/cvsrc98.htm indicates most turn yellow when ripe. Mine are always more a blue-gray, and often fall before fully ripe (not necessarily in a strong wind). They are usually edible soon afterwards but I imagine the quality would be better if they got fully ripe on the tree, which seems to be what should happen. I know they are somewhat ripe, I've tasted a few from other sources and mine aren't too different, and get soft and a darker yellow inside. But they are generally smaller than the reported sizes, only a few were close to 4 ozs last autumn, most smaller. Not a big deal, but given the very high proportional size of the seeds, I'm not really getting a lot to eat from a fruit. [not that I could eat these by the ton, which I would do if they were mangos, not possible to grow here]. So I hope others who grow pawpaws in CA will chime in with their own experiences. And maybe someone who grows them in their native range is reading too, and could give a great comparison. Thanks, Michael Zarky mailto:mzarky@earthlink.net 10963 Citrus Drive Moorpark, CA USA 93021 ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Re: Best Jujubes For Eating Fresh? From: Roger Meyer Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:23:04 -0700 (PDT) To: Leo Manuel Leo, sorry to be so late. I completely forgot to respond to your e mail. I have attached my jujube pages for you to go through. All that I carry are sweet ones but some are best as dried fruit so those do not seem to be the best eating fresh. Their sugar levels go to 75% when they are tree dried. I still like the standby Li as the trees produce lots of good, sweet, crispy fruit. Here in San Diego County this ripens from about August 15-Sept 15. Honey Jar has a unique, sweet taste but the fruit are very small in relation to other jujubes. Sugar Cane is great as is Sherwood. If I had to pick just one, I think it would be the Sherwood. A very dense, sweet fruit from about Sept 10-end of October. Even sweeter is the GA866 but its cropping is lighter than many other cultivars. Shanxi Li is a fairly new one I imported from China directly and it does produce very large Li-type fruit. If one wants one single tree to produce a good fresh and dried fruit, go with Shui Men. I sell both plants and scionwood. I take orders all year long but can only ship Jan-the first week in March. I do ship world wide as long as the county will accept without overly stringent rules. Plants to Europe and Israel have not been a problem although permits, phyto, and treating do cost. I hope this helps. If you have other questions, please ask and hope I respond faster. Roger Meyer mailto:xotcfruit@yahoo.com 16531 Mt. Shelly Circle Fountain Valley, CA 92708 714-839-0796 evenings before 10 > From: Leo Manuel > To: Roger Meyer > Sent: Sat, March 6, 2010 11:24:12 AM > Subject: Best Jujubes For Eating Fresh? > > Hi Roger > > Do you agree with NAFEX's letter on the most recommended > varieties of jujube for eating fresh? > > I'll post your reply in Rare Fruit News Online, if it's ok. > > Thanks! Leo Manuel > > NAFEX ARTICLE: Li and Lang are the most commonly sold varieties > but neither is very strongly recommended among people who've > grown or tried them. The two most recommended varieties (for > eating fresh, not dried) are Sugar Cane and Honey Jar. They are > also pretty difficult to locate for sale. Roger Meyer, a NAFEX > member and I believe the jujube expert sells plants of each: ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Jujube Or Chinese Date (Zizyphus Jujuba) Thumbnail Sketch From: Roger Meyer Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:12:27 -0700 Jujube Or Chinese Date (Zizyphus Jujuba) Thumbnail Sketch ORIGIN: Probably China but possibly the eastern Mediterranean (especially Syria). Widely cultivated in China for millennia. Most good named varieties are from China. TREE DESCRIPTION: Upright, slender, deciduous tree. Up to 30 after decades but may be kept smaller if desired. Espaliers well. Summer foliage beautifully green, turning yellow in the fall. CLIMATE: Quite winter hardy to about -30 F but needs little winter chilling to set fruit. Produces fruit from California to South Carolina and at least as far north as Kansas through Ohio to Philadelphia. Areas with low summer temperatures, short summers, or southern Florida are experimental. SOIL: Most any is acceptable except heavy clays or wet locations. Very tolerant to salt and alkalinity. FERTILIZER: Use any typical fruit tree fertilizer or manure. WATER: Once established, trees are drought tolerant, but may drop fruit when extremely dry. For best results, irrigate I or so each week. PESTS AND DISEASES: Protect from gophers. Birds like the near-ripe fruit. If they are a problem, use Japanese Mylar tape (Flash Tape) strung from the tops of the trees. HARVESTING: The Li variety may be picked once the color has gone from green to the yellow-green stage. The Lang must wait until it is fully red to be at its best. Other varieties-taste once the color is in the yellow-green stage. Some harvest well with a small amount of red while others need full red color to be at their best. Honey Jar can be picked even green. For dried fruit, let the fruit stay on the tree until dry and wrinkled. Dried fruit stores well in a dry place for months to years. No preservatives are needed. PROBLEMS: Jujubes have two setbacks: 1. They have thorns on most varieties on the younger branches. Different varieties have different severity's of these thorns with some noted to be almost thorn-free. 2. Plants send out root suckers up to 30 from the main stem. These can be dug out each winter and replanted for grafting. If they are not wanted, simply mow or hoe them away as needed. AVAILABILITY: We sell dormant-wood cuttings to be used for grafting on your existing plants and bareroot plants in the winter. Scionwood is available Jan-April and bareroot plants Jan-early March. Scions are priced at $2.00 per 2 buds unless otherwise noted. There is a minimum of 5 total scions plus 15% for shipping (20% east of Rockies). Varieties are available as bareroot plants and are shipped January-early March. ALL CULTIVARS (except Shanxi Li) $22.00 Shanxi Li $27 ROOTED SPROUTS (FOR GRAFTING): 10 for $3.00 each, 50 for $2.50 each: 100 for $2.25 each. ADD 15% FOR SHIPPING FOR BAREROOT PLANTS AND SCIONS (20% east of Rockies). Minimum $6 west of Rockies and $8 east of Rockies. LARGE ORDERS FOR NURSERIES AND PLANTINGS (Grafted Plants Only):10-24 total plants Take 10% off 25 or more plants take 25% off FLASH TAPE: Helps scare off smaller birds when fruit is ripening--$2.50 per roll plus shipping JUJUBE BOOKOVER 200 PAGES- $28 DELIVERED U.S. SPECIALTY SEED AVAILABLE -$5.00 per pack Group A - No postage required in US (30 or more seed per pack) Tropical Guava, Mexican Yellow Guava, Jujube, African Homed Melon, Cereus peruvianus (red or yellow), Tamarillo (red or golden yellow), Purple Passion Fruit, Cherimoya, (winter-spring only), and kiwifruit relatives - arguta, Cordifolia, mixed arguta, eriantha, and yellow-red-or orange Actinidia chinensis. Note that on the kiwi, no viability is guaranteed due to possible cross-pollination with regular kiwifruit. Group B - 10 or more seed per pack White Sapote (Sept-Nov), Surinam Cherry (Feb-May), Lychee (July-Aug), Longan (Oct-Nov), or Paw Paw Foreign orders require additional postage, See Availability List for additional requirements Florida and Hawaii deliveries add $20 to cover Ag shipping requirements on plants. ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Jujube Scionwood, Plant Availablility, and Jujube Book From: Roger Meyer Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:21:24 -0700 Jujube Scionwood, Plant Availablility, and Jujube Book Li: Beautiful Chinese introduction by Frank Meyer. Large round fruit up 3 ounces in mid-August. May be picked at the yellow-green stage. Best eaten fresh. Best single tree to have. Early fruiting. Li 2: NEW! This came to me as Li, but the fruit and the tree itself are obviously different from the Li above. The fruit is very large and ripens several weeks later than the Li. Tree has one hooked spine and one dagger spine. LANG: Large, pear-shaped fruit - late ripening and must be fully red to be best. Some fruit may split and soften before ripening. Leave these on the tree to dry. This is the best for dried fruit. The tree is very upright and virtually thornless. SHERWOOD: A seedling plant from Louisiana. Fruit is very dense and excellent. The tree is very narrow and upright with leaves that are a weeping habit. Very late ripening fruit. SHUI MEN: From the TVA project in Tennessee. Fruit is elongated and excellent fresh or dried. SO: A tree of most beautiful shape. At each node of the stem the branch decides to go off in a different direction. Hence, very zig zag branching. Tree seems to be somewhat dwarfed. Fruit is early. SILVERHILL: An elongated fruit from Georgia. Very late fruit to ripen. Crops well even in northern Florida. GA866: One of the selections from the breeding program at Chico. Outstandingly sweet fruit with sugar levels approaching 45%! Large, elongated fruit. Excellent! SUGAR CANE: Small to medium sized fruit which are round to somewhat elongated. Extremely sweet and crunchy fruit but on a very spiny plant. The fruit is worth the spines! TSAO: From Pennsylvania with the fruit pointed at both ends. Tsao is the Chinese name for the jujube (actually "date" or "apple"). Excellent, sweet mid-season variety. GI 7-62: From the Chico Research Program. Fruit is round but flattened to an unusual shape. Excellent, sweet taste. A real surprise! It was named "Chico" by Paul Thompson of the California Rare Fruit Growers. GI-1183: Also from the research program. Excellent fruit of medium to large size. Late harvest. THORNLESS: Fruit similar to Lang but may not be identical to it. It is virtually thornless. ADMIRAL WILKES: From the Capitol grounds in Washington D.C. This plant is one of the progeny from the Wilkes expedition to the South Seas in 1842. Elongated like Silverhill and the very last to ripen. TEXAS TART: A high acid, tart fruit from the campus of Texas Tech University, Lubbock. Small, very sweet, raisin-like fruit when dried. TOPEKA: Collected from Mellinger's Clinic in Kansas. Very nice, crispy sweet fruit. Late harvest. ED HEGARD: From Alabama. Fruit similar to Lang and also virtually thornless. REDLANDS #4: Collected from an old homestead in Redlands, Ca. Very large, sweet, round fruit. Mid season. YU: One of the original introductions by Frank Meyer. Claimed to be one of the best eating jujube. FITZGERALD: From Georgia. Small, round fruit which are almost black when fully ripe. ABBEVILLE: From Louisiana. An elongated fruit on a very prolific plant. Loads of small to medium fruit. JIN: Excellent either fresh or dried. Mid season. PORTERVILLE: An unknown seedling from Porterville, CA. Fruit is round and unusually bumpy. HONEY JAR: A new Chinese cultivar with small but absolutely unique, sweet taste for use fresh or dried. ANT ADMIRE: Another Chinese cultivar with elongated fruit eaten fresh. Mid season harvest. Excellent. SEPTEMBER LATE: Used fresh or dried--mid to late harvest. Fruit is elongated GLOBE: Very large, round fruit which are best dried. Late season SIHONG: Excellent, large, round fruit--mid season. SHANXI LI: NEW! First time offered in US. Extremely large fruit with great flavor. MU: NEW! Introduced into the US by Frank Meyer nearly 80 years ago, then lost. Recently found in an obscure botanical garden. DON POLENSKI: NEW! Similar to Lang but a better, crisper flavor. SUI: A newly rediscovered cultivar listed by Frank Meyer 6 NEW RUSSIAN CULTIVARS: 1) Kitaiski 2, 2) Kitaiski 60, 3) Oo Sene Hun, 4) 29-16 TOC, 5) Sovietski, and 6) Ta Yan Tsao (probably Lang) All scions are $2.00 each plus 15% shipping (20% east of Rockies) except Shanxi Li at $5.00 each. Minimum order is $10. Jujube Book Just published by Roger Meyer and Robert Chambers with the help of California Rare Fruit Growers. Over 250 pages of articles collected from the last 90 years. It is the only book I know of devoted entirely to growing jujube. Price is $28.00 delivered. Send check to Roger Meyer, 16531 Mt Shelly, Fountain Valley, CA 92708 ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Mulberry Variety Information and Availability From: Steve Ashley Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 13:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Leo, I found lots of mulberry information at the CLOUDFOREST web site. I have grafted some varieties on my trees altho not all types will be compatible with each other. There must be hundreds of types but only a few are super flavored. Here's a copy I sent out: I am a mulberry lover in north San Diego County and I learned something from your post. I grow Pakistan, some unknown white mulberries, and a Persian type. The Persian [Kester] is a small, late fruiting tree but is worth the wait. Shah toot, king berry, sounds wonderful and would probably graft in to other Persian types. Now, I wonder where to find one? Steve Ashley mailto:tebantani@yahoo.com [I have an unknown common mulberry, except that it seems very early. It begins to ripen in early to mid-March. Any idea what kind it might be? -Leo] <><><><> Announcements And Web Pages To Consider <><><><> San Diego Chapter California Rare Fruit Growers Meeting: Where: Casa del Prado Building Room 101, Balboa Park When: Fourth Wednesday Of Each Month (Except December) See: http://www.crfgsandiego.org http://nc.crfgsandiego.org For North County CRFG Chapter Meeting http://www.crfg.org/chapters.html For information about ALL CRFG chapters. <> Agricultural Research Service (ARS) ars>news@arsgrin.gov <> http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/thelatest.htm. None this time <><><><><><><><><> End of RFN201004A.txt <><><><><><><><><><> Rare Fruit News Online - April 15, 2010 - AKA RFN201004B.txt ____________________________________________________________ <><><><> Notes In Passing - Leo <><><><> Weather's warming, things happening in our gardens - Please give us an idea of what it's like for you. Here, I expect a decent crop of lychees, mangoes, a few apricots, but my aprium seems bare - possibly because of the rain at blossom time? I expect you heard of my "...sudden trip to Dent Dover UK..." where "...i got mugged at gun point on my way to the hotel where i lodged...."? I hope no one was taken in by whomever hijacked my Yahoo email account. I got lots of mail and phone calls by many concerned friends. Anyway, after a few days, I was able to get access to my email account again, and nothing seems to be damaged. I've gotten many more Yahoo spam emails, and you will probably, as well. Several of you sent excellent information as to how to handle the problem, and where online I could report it to federal authorities, which I promptly did, and whom to contact to regain control of the email account, which eventually led to my regaining control. Harvey Correia was the first of many to call and then to email: Subject: FW: Hijacked account? From: "Harvey J. Correia" Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 17:53:22 -0700 Leo, I just got this e-mail which has the appearance of coming from you but I strongly suspect is some sort of spam. Maybe your Yahoo account was hijacked? Thought I should forward it on to you in your other e-mail account so you would be aware of the problem or advise otherwise. Best wishes, Harvey -----Original Message----- From: Leo Manuel [mailto:leo92129@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 5:49 PM To: leo92129@yahoo.com Subject: Please help urgently!!! Hope you get this on time.Sorry i did not inform you about my sudden trip to Kent Dover UK for a program.I am presently stranded here and urgently require your kind favor soon.I hope you come to my aid.Last night,i got mugged at gun point on my way to the hotel where i lodged.They went away with all have got including my wallet where i have all my cash and credit card and also my cell phone.I wasn't injured because I quickly complied. My traveling documents are been apprehended by the hotel management because of my inability to pay bills.I reported to the police and they only asked me to write a statement about the incident and later referred me to the embassy.I contacted our embassy here but they are not responding effectively to the matter.I am confused and so full of panic right now.For now,i do not have a phone where i can be reached.All i have got here is my mail.I also have limited access to the computer. Please I need you to Kindly loan me about (1,450 Pounds) to sort-out my hotel bills and other expenses incurred here and get back home soon as i do not feel safe here anymore.I Promise to refund your money immediately i return home.I will explain full details to you when i get back.I will appreciate any amount you can quickly arrange and send to me via Western Union or Money Gram with the details below. Receivers Names: Leo Manuel Receivers Address/location:83A HIGH STREET Ashford, KENT TN24 8SA Write to me the full details of the transfer or scanned copy of the transfer receipt so that i can receive over here quickly.Let me know if you can be of any help soon because you are the only person i can reach at this moment and the next flight back home departs in about few hours. Get back to me ASAP. Kind Regards Leo <><><><><><><><><> Table Of Contents <><><><><><><><><> -> -> -> Messages follow the Table Of Contents <- <- <- <><><> New Subscribers <><><> None this time <><><> Readers Write <><><> Butterflies - Flutterbys Alice Snow NAFEX-North American Fruit EXplorers Newsletter Leo Manuel Okinawa Sweet Potato - Anyone Grow It? Leo Manuel -> -> -> -> -> -> Messages <- <- <- <- <- <- <><><><><><><><> New Subscribers <><><><><><><><><> None this time <><><><><><><><> Readers Write <><><><><><><><><> Subject: Butterflies - Flutterbys From: Alice Snow Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 00:25:50 -0700 Leo My butterfly plants for Monarchs have been growing through the winter outside from last year. I found 4 big Monarch caterpillars on them. Now only two are there so the other two must have crawled away. Don't you think it is pretty early for them? Or is this the right time of year? Haven't seen any butterflies yet. Alice mailto:rhsnowsr@cox.net [My guess is that some Monarch butterfly eggs overwintered and hatched when the weather warmed. Any other ideas? -Leo] ------------------------------------------------ Subject: NAFEX-North American Fruit EXplorers Newsletter From: Leo Manuel Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:34:58 -0700 Here's a reminder of the organization NAFEX, and to give you a peak into what topics they've been writing about: ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Nafex Subscription Information From: Leo Manuel Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:34:58 -0700 I've been a NAFEX member for more than forty years. Most of that time I got hard copies in the mail of the newsletter, but now I get an email version. I believe most of you would find membership invaluable. Lon J. Rombough mailto:lonrom@hevanet.com is one of many readers of RFNO who also subscribes to NAFEX. To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to nafex-request@lists.ibiblio.org You can reach the person managing the list at nafex-owner@lists.ibiblio.org Below is a list of topics of emails recently sent to NAFEX subscribers: Some Recent Topics: 1. Re: grafting with rootstock breaking dormancy 2. Fwd: ARS Scientists Develop Self-pollinating Almond Trees 3. Treating bees for mites 4. Spray calculations 5. PawPaw pollenation 6. Miniature peach trees (Melissa Kacalanos) 7. Mycorrhizal fungi; plant helpers (Douglas Woodard) 8. grafting mulberries (William McNam) 10. Complete coverage of scion with Parafilm (Jwlehman@aol.com) ------------------------------------------------ Subject: USDA Dedicates New Miami Research Bldg-Offers Public Tours Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 08:46:50 -0700 To: rarefruit@san.rr.com http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/2010/100408.htm?pf=1 USDA Dedicates New Miami Research Building, Offers Public Tours By Dennis O'Brien April 8, 2010 Officials with the U.S. Department of Agricultures Agricultural Research Service (ARS) today dedicated a new research and administrative building at the agencys Subtropical Horticulture Research Station (SHRS) south of Coral Gables. The new building serves as an integral part of the research station mission, housing laboratories and offices for scientists, as well as business and support staff. ARS is USDAs chief intramural scientific research agency. The Miami research center has been a key player in protecting and preserving tropical and subtropical crops such as mangos, avocados, bananas and cacao that are not only very popular with consumers, but also are an important source of income to small farmers in many parts of the world, said Molly Jahn, USDA Acting Under Secretary for Research, Education and Economics. This new facility will help us continue that vital research and learn more about the genetic diversity of these crops, the diseases and pests that threaten them, and ways we can produce them in a more sustainable, environmentally friendly manner. Jahn and Edward B. Knipling, ARS administrator, attended the dedication along with numerous scientists, Miami area officials and research collaborators. The new building completes the long-term restoration at the research center to repair damage resulting from Hurricane Andrew in 1992. Construction of the new building was supported by an $8 million Congressional appropriation. The SHRS facilities include a USDA National Germplasm Repository that houses unique collections of cacao, mango, avocado, banana, plantains, palms, sugarcane, ornamentals, and other tropical and subtropical crops. Researchers use the collections to study the genetic diversity of various crops and look for ways to increase crop yields and make them more resistant to diseases and pathogens. SHRS researchers also focus on developing methods to control exotic insect pests and develop technologies that will save water, reduce agricultural runoff and promote sustainable agronomic systems. The station was established in 1898 for the study of tropical plants that were being introduced into the United States. The facilities were relocated to the present site, the former Chapman Airfield in Palmetto Bay, in 1923. Because of its proximity to Biscayne Bay, the station is one of the few locations in the continental United States that can sustain long term production of tropical plants. On Saturday, April 10, guided tours of the 204-acre grounds and the new building will be available to the public from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. The tours will focus on the five research areas covered by SHRS scientistsplant science, agronomy, entomology, ornamental plants and cacaoand will include demonstrations of molecular genetics methods, remote sensing and water usage, and insect detection systems. Biographical sketches of the SHRS scientists and an oral history of the station will be presented in video form in the new conference room. For further information, call (786) 573-7056 or visit the SHRS website. Photo: The new ARS Subtropical Horticulture Research Station building in Coral Gables, Fla. ARS today dedicated a new research and administrative building at its Subtropical Horticulture Research Station at Coral Gables, Florida. ARS photo. Photo: Cacao pods on the tree. ARS researchers focus on tropical and subtropical crops at the Subtropical Horticulture Research Station including a unique collection of cacao germplasm. Photo courtesy of Paul Bolstad, University of Minnesota, Bugwood.org. For further reading * Three new tecoma cultivars add to landscape shrub options. * Sequencing the cacao genome to safeguard chocolate * Genetic roots of cacao tree traced. USDA Dedicates New Miami Research Building, Offers Public Tours By Dennis O'Brien April 8, 2010 Officials with the U.S. Department of Agricultures Agricultural Research Service (ARS) today dedicated a new research and administrative building at the agencys Subtropical Horticulture Research Station (SHRS) south of Coral Gables. The new building serves as an integral part of the research station mission, housing laboratories and offices for scientists, as well as business and support staff. ARS is USDAs chief intramural scientific research agency. The Miami research center has been a key player in protecting and preserving tropical and subtropical crops such as mangos, avocados, bananas and cacao that are not only very popular with consumers, but also are an important source of income to small farmers in many parts of the world, said Molly Jahn, USDA Acting Under Secretary for Research, Education and Economics. This new facility will help us continue that vital research and learn more about the genetic diversity of these crops, the diseases and pests that threaten them, and ways we can produce them in a more sustainable, environmentally friendly manner. Jahn and Edward B. Knipling, ARS administrator, attended the dedication along with numerous scientists, Miami area officials and research collaborators. The new building completes the long-term restoration at the research center to repair damage resulting from Hurricane Andrew in 1992. Construction of the new building was supported by an $8 million Congressional appropriation. The SHRS facilities include a USDA National Germplasm Repository that houses unique collections of cacao, mango, avocado, banana, plantains, palms, sugarcane, ornamentals, and other tropical and subtropical crops. Researchers use the collections to study the genetic diversity of various crops and look for ways to increase crop yields and make them more resistant to diseases and pathogens. SHRS researchers also focus on developing methods to control exotic insect pests and develop technologies that will save water, reduce agricultural runoff and promote sustainable agronomic systems. The station was established in 1898 for the study of tropical plants that were being introduced into the United States. The facilities were relocated to the present site, the former Chapman Airfield in Palmetto Bay, in 1923. Because of its proximity to Biscayne Bay, the station is one of the few locations in the continental United States that can sustain long term production of tropical plants. On Saturday, April 10, guided tours of the 204-acre grounds and the new building will be available to the public from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. The tours will focus on the five research areas covered by SHRS scientistsplant science, agronomy, entomology, ornamental plants and cacaoand will include demonstrations of molecular genetics methods, remote sensing and water usage, and insect detection systems. Biographical sketches of the SHRS scientists and an oral history of the station will be presented in video form in the new conference room. For further information, call (786) 573-7056 or visit the SHRS website. ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Okinawa Sweet Potato - Anyone Grow It? From: Leo Manuel Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2010 19:44:12 -0700 We found Okinawa sweet potatoes at our local farmers market, and they are delicious. The flesh is somewhat dry, but incredibly sweet. I can eat them cooked, cubed, and buttered as a dessert. Anyway, now I'd like to grow them. Anyone try it? I'm hoping that some will sprout that are in my hotbed, but they haven't shown signs yet. Leo mailto:rarefruit@san.rr.com <><><><> Announcements And Web Pages To Consider <><><><> San Diego Chapter California Rare Fruit Growers Meeting: Where: Casa del Prado Building Room 101, Balboa Park When: Fourth Wednesday Of Each Month (Except December) See: http://www.crfgsandiego.org http://nc.crfgsandiego.org For North County CRFG Chapter Meeting http://www.crfg.org/chapters.html For information about ALL CRFG chapters. <> Agricultural Research Service (ARS) ars>news@arsgrin.gov <> http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/thelatest.htm. None this time <><><><><><><><><> End of RFN201004B.txt <><><><><><><><><><> Rare Fruit News Online - May 1, 2010 - AKA RFN201005A.txt _________________________________________________________ <><><><> Notes In Passing - Leo <><><><> Beautiful May day here in San Diego today! Temperature almost 70, bright sunshine.... I got out and worked on some weeds. They're everywhere. Keep us informed about your gardening. No butterflies yet but the butterfly milkweeds are in full bloom. Hope they return! <><><><><><><><><> Table Of Contents <><><><><><><><><> -> -> -> Messages follow the Table Of Contents <- <- <- <><><> New Subscribers <><><> New Subscriber - What Mango For Ventura County CA? Joanne RE: New Subscriber - What Mango For Ventura County CA? Leo Manuel Mango and Newsletter Subscription Ryan <><><> Readers Write <><><> RE: Okinawa Sweet Potato Culture Oscar Jaitt RE: Okinawa Sweet Potato Culture Leo Manuel To: Oscar Jaitt RE: Okinawa Sweet Potato Culture Oscar Jaitt RE: Okinawa Sweet Potato Culture Dan Hemenway Our San Diego Yard Activity John Brode Greetings; Recovering From Central Florida's Long Winter Nancy B. Garden tour Saturday May 22 9 to 11 am at Leo's Cielo and Kevin Looking for California Concord Grape Vine Eliana Uretsky Ranch 99 San Diego Market Pitaya Fruit... and Green Scene W Chow Dragon fruit plants At Local Nurseries. W Chow Create a water-wise garden in 5 minutes Nan Sterman Looking For Cherimoya Flowers For Paw Paw Hybrid Trial secetary nickerson -> -> -> -> -> -> Messages <- <- <- <- <- <- <><><><><><><><> New Subscribers <><><><><><><><><> Subject: New Subscriber - What Mango For Ventura County CA? From: Joanne Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 23:41:17 +0000 Hello Leo, My name is Joanne Owen, I live in Newbury Park, CA. I am writing this message from Key West, FL, while on vacation. We visited Miami and then went to the Fruit and Spice Park in Homestead, before driving to Key West. I have apple, citrus, avocado and stone fruit trees (apricot, peach and plum), with one Moro blood orange and I am attempting to start a white Pitaya. Most of my trees are young and in pots. I have three queen and three pigmy date palm trees that I need to have removed from my backyard before I can strategically plant my fruit trees. I am interested in a Mango tree, one of my favorite fruits. My question would be, what type of Mango tree would be best to grow in Ventura County? I am a member of CRFG, L.A. and South Bay Chapters. I went through the Ventura County Master Gardener program in 2008, where I learned about CRFG and became a member in 2009. Please send the newsletters to me at this email address. I'm looking forward to receiving your newsletters. Thank you. Joanne mailto:jowenc@roadrunner.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: RE: New Subscriber - What Mango For Ventura County CA? From: Leo Manuel Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 11:01:36 -0700 I did a 'Google' search "Ventura County Mango" and got several hits, a few of which should reassure you. Leo http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ventura+county+mango&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/calif/msg1015541126887.html ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Mango and Newsletter Subscription From: Ryan Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 09:51:17 -0700 (PDT) Hello Leo, How have you been? I am doing well. I recently got an email from you that made me think that you still send out the newsletter. Is that true? I know you occasionally had problems with your letter list, and I think my email may have been dropped. I haven't gotten the newsletter for some months now, but I had just assumed that you weren't sending it anymore. Anyway, on to other things. My mango seedling of your #5 tree is blooming and setting small fruit. I am going to let the fruit mature (or try to). I am pretty excited about it, as the tree is only about 3 years old from seed. I noticed a day or 2 ago some gray fuzzy mold on the blossoms. It looks to me like powdery mildew. I sprayed with a sulfur based fungicide last night, but I was wondering if you have any suggestions? How is your bloom this year? Hope all is well. Talk to you soon. Ryan mailto:somsag_98@yahoo.com [My Seedling #5 is polyembryonic, and has delicious, fragrant fruit (smells of coconut), but rather small fruit. I haven't been successful dealing with powdery mildew on mango blooms. Hopefully a reader will recommend something for us. -Leo] <><><><><><><><><> Readers Write<><><><><><><><><><> Subject: RE: Okinawa Sweet Potato Culture From: Oscar Jaitt Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:48:59 -1000 Hi Leo, Okinawa sweet potato is one of the most popularly grown sweet potatoes here in Hawaii. The interior is a dark purple when cooked. The exterior is amost white. Grows very easily here. You should be able to sprout one and then if you want you can also take cuttings from the sprouts. Cuttings root very easily in water. Oscar mailto:fruitlovers@hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: RE: Okinawa Sweet Potato Culture From: Leo Manuel Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 16:47:54 -0700 To: Oscar Jaitt Hi Oscar Thanks for the information. I just found out that most of the Okinawa sweet potatoes in the San Diego markets are shipped from Hawaii, and that all such are first irradiated, so that it's unlikely that any of those will sprout. I looked at those I had attempted to root and they all were beginning to rot at one end. I did find a California source for rooted sprouts and have ordered some. Take care, Leo mailto:fruitlovers@hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: RE: Okinawa Sweet Potato Culture From: Oscar Jaitt Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 22:55:52 -1000 Good! They're very sweet and tasty and have an intensely beautiful purple color. I'm sure you will enjoy them. Oscar mailto:fruitlovers@hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: RE: Okinawa Sweet Potato Culture From: Dan Hemenway Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 07:19:13 -0400 I got Okinawa from Echo in N Ft. Meyers FL many years ago. I've since discontinued growing it (forget why, probably just didn't save roots for slips), but probably Echo still has it. Dan Hemenway mailto:permacltur@aol.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Our San Diego Yard Activity From: John Brode Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 10:48:06 GMT Great to have you back Leo. And thankfully you seem to have gained contol. But that must have been a bit scary. However, you also got some good advice from friends. We have loads of blossom on our trees. But not quite sure about the fruit. The apriums are all blooming at different times. Also apart from loads of activity on our white sapote. We have had a huge lack of bees elsewhere. But it looks like we should have a good harvest from our oriental pears. Unlike last year when they were soo sparce. Also. This year we must get the strawberry netting over our persimmons. Those beetles came flying in again last year and devoured the fruit. Although we [meaning John] raked away a lot of mulch as we thought possibly they may be overwintering. These are shiny brown bugs which fly of course. A good half inch long. And they chew off all the young fruit and leaves so we will see. I have been delighted this year to have a garden full of hummingbirds..And about 4 nests. So we have been using mirrors to take a peak. Several tiny babies are now in those tiny nests. How wonderful they are. All the very best to you. Marion and John Brodie mailto:marionjohnbrodie@msn.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Greetings; Recovering From Central Florida's Long Winter From: "Nancy B." Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 11:32:46 -0700 (PDT) Dear members; Happy Spring to everyone. I just am checking in from central Florida where we had an unseasonably long cold winter. We had no 100 year freeze, but boy did my tropical fruit and plants fare badly. On the sad note I have to replace my avocado tree and the bananas dies down to the ground, but on a happy note, Lowes is selling tropical raspberries (Mysore). I always wanted to try growing these black raspberries because I miss the red raspberries of my youth in Pennsylvania. I would like to see whether I can hybridize the Mysore with a red raspberry. The reds don't make it in Central Florida because they get weakened by fungus in the hot weather. By the way, for those of you who grow bananas in a border area, I saved my plants by piling on composted black cow manure that absorbs heat during the day and releasing it during the night. I had a bag that was so tasty warm that I found a southern black racer snake ( fiesty, but eats rattlers) snoozing on the bag :-) I went to Ft. Lauderdale to buy some tropical fruit trees, but alas, the cold reached down to south Florida and the nurseries have to wait until their plants recover. I hope that everyone in Florida keeps the faith and doesn't give up on their plants. Nancy B mailto:sergius1@bellsouth.net ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Garden tour Saturday May 22 9 to 11 am at Leo's From: "Cielo and Kevin" Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 15:04:18 +0000 Hi Leo This is to confirm the garden tour date at your home with you. Sending this via cell phone on my way to green scene in Fullerton. The tour time is 9 to 11 am & we'll limit the crowd to no more than 10 to 12 members at a time. If there is more demand - we'll open up another shift 12 to 2 pm. I hope this works out with you & Betty. we'll post it in April CRFG newsletter issue. Thanks. Cielo mailto:cielonkevin@yahoo.com [If you want to come to see my yard at that time, write to Cielo mailto:cielonkevin@yahoo.com. I plan to have a few miscellaneous plants for sale then as well. -Leo] ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Looking for California Concord Grape Vine From: Eliana Uretsky Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 21:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Hi Leo, Thanks for the latest news. For the next edition: I am looking for a CA Concord grape plant, as the one I put in this winter never broke dormancy, or let's just say it died. Anyone got one? Thanks, Eliana mailto:goeliana@yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Ranch 99 San Diego Market Pitaya Fruit... and Green Scene From: W Chow Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:27:24 -0700 (PDT) Hi Leo, I was in 99 Ranch Market yesterday. I saw a pallet of dragon fruit for sale. The price was $1.99 a pound. I went to Green Scene on Saturday. I bought a wolf berry plant from the Orange County chapter of CRFG. That was $20. Last September I bought a plant from Linda Nickerson. That was $15. Although, they grew the plant under some shade. When I put the plant in my garden, it died. I also bought 2 pitanga from Ben Poinier (Escondido). He as a South Brazil variety that is orange and a black fruit variety. I like to grow several pitanga in my backyard. Back in Feb, I drive to Tucson Arizona. The nursery I liked best changed owner. The people who ran that before got old and retired. On the way back to San Diego, I stopped at Home Depot in Yuma. I bought a jojoba (female plant) in 5 gallon pot. I hope to get that established also in my backyard. I am glad to see that you recovered the Yahoo Dragon Fruit group. We plan to go to Yellow Stone and Mt. Rushmore this summer. Cheers ! William mailto:williamwchow@yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Dragon fruit plants At Local Nurseries. From: W Chow Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:32:06 -0700 (PDT) Hi Leo, Thanks for forwarding the email. I was in Walter Anderson nursery in Point Loma yesterday. They have dragon fruit plants in 1 gallon pots. There are 3 vines in each pot. These vines are mixed varieties so that you can get cross pollenation. The pot sells for $13. Lowes Hardware Superstore at HWY 78 and San Marcus sells red flesh dragon fruit plants in 3 gallon pots. That sells for $20. I am guessing these flower can pollenate and set fruit on one vine. I tasted some yacon tuber from my garden. These are plants that you gave me about 2 years ago. The tuber is very juicy and crunchy. Almost taste like asian pear. I took my 9 year old boy Jason to Big Bear Lake to ski on April 9. I am out of practice and it was a bit rough on my back. This is the first time he tried to use a snow board. Keep in touch ! William mailto:williamwchow@yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Create a water-wise garden in 5 minutes From: Nan Sterman Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 12:35:23 -0700 It's a beautiful Saturday and you are ready to plant a new, waterwise garden. You drive to the nursery, park the car and as you walk into the entry, you stop. Overwhelmed. Not sure what to buy or what to look at. This ever happen to you? If so, you are not alone! Join me on Saturday at Walter Andersen Nursery in Poway to talk about how to put a water-wise garden together in 5 minutes (okay, maybe 10 minutes). I'll show you combinations of plants based on color themes, natives, succulents, edibles, and more. Be there - 9:30 am, 12755 Danielson Court, Poway 92064, 858 513 4900 Nan mailto:Info@PlantSoup.Com [Which Saturday? -Leo] ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Looking For Cherimoya Flowers For Paw Paw Hybrid Trial From: secetary nickerson Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 17:13:44 -0700 (PDT) To: Harry Nickerson --- On Tue, 4/27/10, Ben Pierce wrote: From: Ben Pierce Subject: Fwd: Hybrid PawPaw seed To: "Harry Nickerson" Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 7:16 AM Can you please send out an email to our members asking if any one has any blooming cherimoya right now? I am working with a gentleman back East that would like to try crossing paw paw with cherimoya. He is willing to send frozen paw paw pollen second day air. Once we had that pollen we would cross with cherimoya using standard cherimoya pollination technique and then mark those crosses to grow out the seed. I think this is a very valuable experiment for the chapter to participate now and in the future on. From what I understand this was successfully done in the past once and many have tried since then with out much luck. Lets see what we can do. Thanks Ben ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Date: Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 3:40 AM Subject: Re: Hybrid PawPaw seed To: mariposafamily@gmail.com Hello again Ben, Too bad your plants are too small to bloom. Is there anyone else that has them flowering now or in the next week(s)? Because I have and can send now. I also have some pollen from the Sam Norris tetraploids pawpaws available now. Theoretically ploidy material hybridizes more easily. There is no special treatment before freezing except maybe allowing it to dry a few hours before freezing. Then freeze about 0 degrees F. I froze pollen a few days then applied to a tree that doesn't have another pollinator nearby and it produced fruit. The colder stored (frozen), the longer it will keep. Normally at near zero pollen will keep a year. Biggest problem is the one set or chromosomes difference between the two species. Jerry mailto:Jwlehman@aol.com PS. I'm a life member of CRFG. <><><><> Announcements And Web Pages To Consider <><><><> San Diego Chapter California Rare Fruit Growers Meeting: Where: Casa del Prado Building Room 101, Balboa Park When: Fourth Wednesday Of Each Month (Except December) See: http://www.crfgsandiego.org http://nc.crfgsandiego.org For North County CRFG Chapter Meeting http://www.crfg.org/chapters.html For information about ALL CRFG chapters. <> Agricultural Research Service (ARS) ars>news@arsgrin.gov <> http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/thelatest.htm. None this time <><><><><><><><><> End of RFN201005A.txt <><><><><><><><><><> Rare Fruit News Online - May 15, 2010 - AKA RFN201005B.txt __________________________________________________________ <><><><> Notes In Passing - Leo <><><><> Garden Tour Here - Saturday, May 11, 9 to 11 a.m. Plant sale (write for list) including mango scions. Apricots Ripening - As usual at my place, I neglect the needful thinning, and the fruit is smaller than we wish. The variety is 'Early Golden' from Julie Frink and produces every year. Let us know what is happening in your yard, please. <><><><><><><><><> Table Of Contents <><><><><><><><><> -> -> -> Messages follow the Table Of Contents <- <- <- <><><> New Subscribers <><><> New Subscriber - Birmingham U. K. What Can I Grow? Joe Farrow <><><> Readers Write <><><> Pitahaya/Dragon Fruit Festival Patricia Valdivia 'Creamhart' Avocado Sought "Harvey J. Correia" Re: 'Creamhart' Avocado Sought Leo Manuel To: "Harvey J. Correia" My Monarch Butterflies Hatching In Early May! Alice CRFG San Diego Chapter Web Services Jose Miguel Gallego What Is This Vine With Green, Spine-Covered Fruit? Pat Re: What Is This Vine With Green, Spine-Covered Fruit? Pat May Organic Gardening Deals - Plant, Weed, Fertilize, Irrigate Peaceful Valley | GrowOrganic.com My Oro Mango - Loaded! Manuel Villarreal <><><><><><><><> New Subscribers <><><><><><><><><> Subject: New Subscriber - Birmingham U. K. What Can I Grow? From: Joe Farrow Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 09:02:43 +0000 Hello, I'm Joe Farrow and I live in Birmingham in the UK, although I am currently at university in Nottingham. I believe that having a healthy diet is the key to having a happy life, and I like to try a lot of new and exciting food! Recently I've really got in to eating fruit (very very often) and I've started buying fruit from a large fruit market such as uglifruit, because I like to experiment. I'd really appreciate anyone else's opinions on what fruits to try and if anyone in the uk knows where to buy them. Next year I'm also likely to have a garden, so might start growing my own, and I'd like to know what fruits I can grow in our temperamental climate! Although, if anyone has any ideas on fruit I can grow in a window box would be phenomenal! Joe Farrow mailto:joe_blob4@hotmail.com <><><><><><><><><> Readers Write<><><><><><><><><><> Subject: Pitahaya/Dragon Fruit Festival From: Patricia Valdivia Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 19:28:15 -0700 (PDT) Dear Pitahaya Lovers, This year our Pitaya Festival will be held in conjunction with the CRFG Festival. It will be held at Cal Poly Pomona The main event will be on Saturday August 14. This year it will be a four day event. Thursday and Friday, August 12th and 13th will be tours to various places. Saturday, Agust 14thw ill be the main event consisting of 24 speakers covering many different fruit related subjects there will also be fruit tasting and many vendors selling fruits and plants.. Saturday there will be box lunches sold for $10 and a buffet style dinner with a keynote speaker for $20.00 Registration is $35. We need you to register early because after July 1the price will go up to $45. and meals won't be guaranteed.To get your registration and to find out more about the program go to this website: http://www.festivaloffruit.org If you have any questions email me at this email: pat_erati@yahoo.com or Edgar Valdivia at edpitaya@gmail.com Edgar Valdivia mailto:edpitaya@gmail.com or mailto:pat_erati@yahoo.com On Sunday, August 15 we will have more tours. ------------------------------------------------ Subject: 'Creamhart' avocado From: "Harvey J. Correia" Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 21:17:10 -0700 Hello Leo, I was wondering if you might know anyone who is growing the Creamhart avocado, a seedling of Reed selected by Ortin Engelhart and registered by CRFG in 1969. Julie does not know who has it, some of us have asked her several times. Jack Swords suggested asking you as you are in the area Ortin lived on Lilac Road in Escondido Thanks, Harvey mailto:harvey@chestnuts.us ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Re: 'Creamhart' avocado From: Leo Manuel Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 21:34:46 -0700 To: "Harvey J. Correia" Hi Harvey I have met Ortin a long time ago, but I don't know who has that avocado. I'll publish the request, and ask Jim Neitzel 619 262-8959 if he knows. His phone is busy now, but I'll try to call later. Leo ------------------------------------------------ Subject: My Monarch Butterflies Hatching In Early May! From: Alice Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 17:05:31 -0700 Leo Monday, May 3rd, our first Monarch Butterfly hatched from his/her chrysalis. Then, it flew away. Today, May 5, our second Monarch hatched. It appeared to be quite large and healthy. It too, flew away. Alice mailto:glorialice@cox.net [I'm envious that Alice has butterflies 'hatching' while I have yet to see one in my yard. What about your yard, reader? Have you even seen any yet? -Leo] ------------------------------------------------ Subject: CRFG San Diego Chapter Web Services From: Jose Miguel Gallego Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 08:45:08 -0700 Hi Leo, Just a quick note on some changes happening in our Chapter web services. Our Chapters web site (www.CRFGSanDiego.org) has been revamped with things like articles written by Tom del Hotal, my Introductory to Rare Fruit Classes, photos from past meetings, links to site of interest to rare fruit growers (including a detailed directory local fruit tree nurseries). We are now also on flickr, facebook and Twitter. Right now the links to these enhancements are on our Chapters the main page on left pane. But, most importantly, we now have a discussion forum, Forums.CRFGSanDiego.org. It was created to talk about growing rare fruit. Some of the forums we open up are: "Sprout's" Questions - New at growing rare fruit? Ask your questions here. Local Events - Local events of interest to San Diego fruit growers. Be sure to check the Calendar too. Wish List - Looking for a special fruit, tree, cuttings, seeds, etc. ask here (No citrus exchange allowed at this time) Fruit Exchange - List fruit you have available to exchange Fruit Recipes - Have a great recipe? Share it here! Fruit Humor - Have a nice, healthy joke to share? Share it here. To start, we added forums for specific fruit such apples, Cherimoyas, Citrus, Pitahaya, Pomegranates and more are on their way. Participants can suggest additional forums for other specific fruits. And, we also included forums on how to propagate fruit trees, such as air layering, grafting, scion wood seeds and tissue culture. There is more to come, the forums are young with few postings, this is just the beginning of what we think it will be a great forum for fruit growers. Jos M. Gallego mailto:JMGallego@LosGallego.com Webmaster and Past Chairman CRFG, San Diego Chapter ------------------------------------------------ Subject: What Is This Vine With Green, Spine-Covered Fruit? From: Pat Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 19:39:44 -0700 (PDT) Hi Leo - Perhaps you can help me identify a "fruit" (???) that my daughter found today in her yard near the dog run area. I've never seen anything like this before and looks so bizarre that it could even sprout legs and terrorize folks. It is "creepy", yet beautiful. It is a beautiful shade of shiny dark lime green, almost plastic looking but very real, oval shaped with bumpy skin about 4 1/2" long, 4" in diameter, including the length of very, very sharp spines covered all around with the longest spines being 1 inch long. It was growing on a vine. When cut in half, it revealed a white soft inside and what appears to be seeds about 1/2" oval shaped. The skin is about .040 thick. It is now residing in a plastic bag until it can be identified. I've never seen anything like this before. Do not know if it is toxic or edible. I live in Hesperia, CA in the High Desert. It does not look like something that would grow here....then, again, one never knows. Any information you may be able to give me on this would be appreciated. I also intend to take it to the local nurseryman and let him see if he can identify it. Thank you for any information you are able to send. Pat mailto:gardenersgrits@yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Re: What Is This Vine With Green, Spine-Covered Fruit? From: Pat Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 21:43:48 -0700 (PDT) Hi Leo - Well I found out that is a "Marah" also known as Man Root and Wild Cucumber since the root is shaped like the torso of a man. Fascinating plant. Mostly found in chaparral areas or where there is more moisture, not in the high desert. With our heavy rains this year it just sprouted and is flourishing but should in a month or 2 just dry up and that's it! The fleshy inside looks like a "loufa" when it dries up and the dried seeds make beautiful necklaces. Thank you for your help and I'd be interested in anyones comments also. http://plants.montara.com/ListPages/FamPages/Cucurbita.html Pat mailto:gardenersgrits@yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Organic Gardening Deals-Plant, Weed, Fertilize, Irrigate From: Peaceful Valley GrowOrganic.com Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 03:19:34 -0700 May in the Garden! Hi Leo W, May calls us all out to the garden to transplant seedlings, sow seeds, and watch the beauty of Spring unfold. So whether you're top dressing your garden beds with organic fertilizer, weeding, or fixing up your irrigation system, we have promotional pricing to help you along your way. 20% off Chicken Manure Fertilizer 25% off Organic Herbicide GreenMatch Irrigation Sale on Poly Tubing & Timer Last Chance to order Organic Seedlings Free Seeds with Every Order Fertilizer Sale Special on All Purpose Organic Fertilizer Fertilizer Sale Sup'R Green Chicken Manure (Composted) (25 lb) 25 lb bag . . . . $3.99 $4.99 May promotional pricing - no coupon necessary. Super price! This chicken manure is fully composted and it will not burn. Over 5 times more plant food value than steer manure. Guaranteed weed and dirt free. Nutrient levels are stable at 3% total nitrogen, 2% phosphoric acid, and 2% soluble potash. In flower and vegetable gardens, use sparingly at 40 lb/150 sq ft; on lawns use 40 lb/100 sq ft. Water thoroughly after application. 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The Rain Won't Last - Irrigation Promotion 1/2" Poly Tubing 100' Roll . . . .$9.99 $7.99 500' Roll . . $39.99 $29.99 1000' Roll . . $69.99 $59.99 Gilmour Electronic Timer $27.99 $29.99 2 for $49.99 May promotional pricing - no coupon necessary. Last Chance for Organic Veggie Seedlings! Get a jump start on gardening this year with our certified organic vegetable seedlings. Twelve plants ship in a single box to your doorstep for just $29.88 ($2.49/plant) + flat rate shipping. Give your seedlings the boost they need with our New GrowOrganic Veggie Starter Blend. This all organic blend provides just what your plants need to get off to a great start. It has small amounts of all the major nutrients and micronutrients, made more available by the biologically active compost and the humates in the mix. It also contains beneficial mycorrhizal fungi to promote root development. One pound of the GrowOrganic Veggie Starter Blend is the perfect amount of fertilizer for 30 organic seedlings! As Always... Free Seeds with Every Order! We are pleased to offer two FREE Peaceful Valley Organic Vegetable & Herb Seed Packs with every order ($4.98 value)! Order $100 or more (before tax & shipping) and receive ten FREE Peaceful Valley Organic Vegetable & Herb Seed Packs with your order ($24.90 value)! Peaceful Valley mailto:marketing@groworganic.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: My Mangoes From: Manuel Villarreal Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 22:28:28 -0700 (PDT) Hello Leo I hope that you are doing well, my health is only so so, but my mangoe tree that I bought from you, is doing great it is loaded with fruit, so much so, that if it keeps 10% I'll be very happy. Also my pitahayas are doing great this year. I think that you told me that the mangoe tree was Oro. Last year it produced about 25 fruits, ten of which were very good size, the rest were small but all were delicious. They were free of fiber and very sweet and full of flavor. My health is not too bad. I am pre-diabetic, knee problems and few other things but I am holding up OK. Sincerely Rev. Manny Villarreal mailto:revmannyv@sbcglobal.net <><><><> Announcements And Web Pages To Consider <><><><> San Diego Chapter California Rare Fruit Growers Meeting: Where: Casa del Prado Building Room 101, Balboa Park When: Fourth Wednesday Of Each Month (Except December) See: http://www.crfgsandiego.org http://nc.crfgsandiego.org For North County CRFG Chapter Meeting http://www.crfg.org/chapters.html For information about ALL CRFG chapters. <> Agricultural Research Service (ARS) ars>news@arsgrin.gov <> http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/thelatest.htm. None this time <><><><><><><><><> End of RFN201005B.txt <><><><><><><><><><> Rare Fruit News Online - June 1, 2010 - AKA RFN201006A.txt __________________________________________________________ <><><><> Notes In Passing - Leo <><><><> June - Time to begin grafting such rare fruit as mango. Some of my other rare fruit trees I propagate by airlayering, such as lychee, longan, and guava, but white sapote and cherimoya are also not difficult to graft. Plant Sale - Continuing If you were unable to attend the yard tour and plant sale last Saturday and think you might want to visit, please let me know and I'll send a plant list and directions to our home in Rancho Penasquitos suburb of San Diego. <><><><><><><><><> Table Of Contents <><><><><><><><><> -> -> -> Messages follow the Table Of Contents <- <- <- <><><> New Subscribers <><><> None this time <><><> Readers Write <><><> Jaboticaba (While Searching for Propagation Techniques) Leo Manuel RE: What Is This Vine With Green, Spine-Covered Fruit? Oscar Jaitt To: Pat RE: What Is This Vine With Green, Spine-Covered Fruit? Pat To: Oscar Fungus On Grapes - Recommend Organic Spray? Marion Brodie Fwd: Market Watch: Deliciously strange Pakistan mulberries Herminio FWD: CCPP Citrus Budwood Order NOW! Joe Sabol Fresh Mangosteens In Ranch 99 Market (S. Diego) Mike McCright [mailto:natureboy@gotsky.com] RE: Fresh Mangosteens In Ranch 99 Market (S. Diego) "Gallego, Jose Miguel" To: Mike McCright Miramar Suburb - Fruit in Front Yard Leo Manuel -> -> -> -> -> -> Messages <- <- <- <- <- <- <><><><><><><><> New Subscribers <><><><><><><><><> None this time <><><><><><><><><> Readers Write<><><><><><><><><><> Subject: Jaboticaba (While Searching for Propagation Techniques) From: Leo Manuel Date: Sat, 30 May 2010 09:51:58 -0700 http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/jaboticaba.html Propagation: Most seeds are polyembryonic, producing a plant that is true or close to the parent plant. The seeds germinate in about one month. A suggested potting mixture is 2 parts peat, 2 parts coarse sand and 1 part coarse perlite, wood shavings or compost. Selected strains can be reproduced by inarching (approach grafting) or air-layering. Budding is not easily accomplished because of the thinness of the bark and the hardness of the of the wood. Veneer or side grafts are fairly successful. The grafted plant will fruit considerably earlier than a seedling. One may expect a grafted plant to produce fruit within three years, It can take from 8 to 15 years for a seedling to mature into a fruiting tree. It is this very slow growth that has kept this plant from becoming as popular as it deserves to be. Grafting older trees over to a different variety is inadvisable because it is the trunk and inner branches which produce the fruit. One would have to cut the tree back to a one-inch stump in order to change its fruiting nature. [Have you tried airlayering as a propagation method? What should I know before I try it? -Leo] ------------------------------------------------ Subject: RE: What Is This Vine With Green, Spine-Covered Fruit? From: Oscar Jaitt Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 17:15:20 -1000 To: Pat Pat, you might also be interested in Kiwano, also called African Horned melon. It is another very bizarre looking fruit in the cucumber family. Also easy to grow and tasty. The outside is bright orange with sharp spines, interior lime green jelly tasting like cucumber juice. Good as a salad dressing. African Horned melon, was marketed by New Zealand for a while as Kiwano in the USA. It was not succesful I think mainly because it was sold for very high price and the fruit is rather bland, like cucumber. So not too many people want to pay $5 for such a fruit more than one time. I think they cut the thorn ends or rolled them so they were not so sharp at the stores. I rather like them myself and have grown them here, where they tend to kind of take over. The main problem is the WHOLE plant is thorny, even the stems. But worth growing here as cucumber substitute because the cucumber get stung by fruit flies. Oscar Hawaii ------------------------------------------------ Subject: RE: What Is This Vine With Green, Spine-Covered Fruit? From: Pat Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 17:49:53 -0700 To: Oscar Thank you Oscar It seems that there are many unusual fruits that one can enjoy even though they may not look like they'd be good to eat. I guess it's getting past the spikes, and horns and different-ness of their looks and getting to the inside to the fruit. Kind of like people - we are a society (in America) who quickly judge the outside without really looking deeper to the inside to see the goodness. Pat DYNAMIC ORGANICS Soil Nutrition http://www.dynamicorganics.net ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Tampa Bay Rare Fruit Home - Must Sell At A Loss! From: "Edward Musgrave" Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 13:23:09 -0400 Hi Leo This is a note to anyone interested in some land in the Tampabay area 1 & 1/2 acres I want to sell . I have been puting rare fruit from The tampa Club I have oner 120 different kinds of fruit 74 have fruited . I live in a warm spot . The freeze only went to 29 degrees and all of my trees are coming back . Write me and get a complete list of my trees . I have been widowered reciently & lost interest in my trees and am willing to sell at a loss to anybody interested in fruit trees. Ed Musgrave mailto:eamusg@tampabay.rr.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Fungus On Grapes - Recommend Organic Spray? From: Marion Brodie Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 07:07:42 GMT Hi Leo We have loads of butterflies every year. They looked like Monarchs but am not sure. However when our huge Passionflower vines were wiped out in the freeze so were the caterpillers, so nothing is left - very disappointing. We had our first flush of grapes last year.. they tasted soo very sweet but then got a type of fungus on them - looked like the whitish mildew that a few of my roses suffer from. What causes this and can anyone help me with an organic spray please? thanks, Marion Brodie ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Fwd: Market Watch: Deliciously strange Pakistan mulberries From: Herminio Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 23:25:08 -0400 The snakelike fruit, now in season, is not such a rarity at area markets anymore. Look for a rich, dark color. By David Karp, Special to the Los Angeles Times May 21 2010 Almost everyone who sees a Pakistan mulberry for the first time exclaims, "Oh, my gosh, what is that?" It certainly is bizarre looking, a long, thin, purplish, snakelike fruit, anywhere from 1 to 5 inches long, with 3 inches being typical. Although not yet exactly common at farmers markets, they're not nearly as rare as they used to be even a few years ago. The complete article can be viewed at: http://www.latimes.com/features/food/la-fo-marketwatch-20100521,0,4470301.story Visit latimes.com at http://www.latimes.com [Pakistan mulberries are surprisingly long. ------------------------------------------------ Subject: FWD: CCPP Citrus Budwood Order NOW! From: Joe Sabol Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 10:36:06 -0700 (PDT) ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "Anita M. Hunt" To: "Anita M. Hunt" Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 8:46:48 AM Subject: CCPP Citrus Budwood Order Place Your Order Now- CCPP Citrus Budwood for June 2010 TO: California Nurserymen and Growers May 17, 2010 FROM: The Citrus Clonal Protection Program (CCPP) Due to findings of citrus tristeza closterovirus (CTV) in the CCPP Foundation Blocks and in the surrounding trees located on the Lindcove Research and Extension Center over the past few years all citrus budwood distributed by the CCPP during this June 2010 cutting period will be cut exclusively from Screenhouse Protected Foundation trees. No budwood will be cut or distributed from any field grown or unprotected trees at this time. The CCPP maintains in-ground and potted trees protected under screen which produce limited amounts of registered budwood that is available for distribution in accordance with California Department of Food and Agriculture (CDFA) regulations. Purchasers please be aware that quantities of budwood may be very limited at this cutting period . In the spring of 2009 we replaced almost 300 potted trees in our screenhouse that were aging and declining in budwood production with new propagations. We have also increased the in-ground screenhouse plantings to over 100 varieties. The CCPP has returned 27 varieties back to the available list as bud source trees have matured, and there have been new varieties added to the Early Release list. Because many of these propagations are still very young budwood of some varieties may be very limited at this time. All budwood distributed at this cutting period will come from non-fruiting screenhouse protected trees and the CCPP has not performed any fruit evaluation for trueness-to-type on any of these trees. Online Budwood Ordering Instructions Budwood can be ordered via the online ordering system Here is how to order: A.) Log onto: http://ccpp.ucr.edu/budwood/budwood.php B.) Please read all of the Terms and Conditions of Supply of Budwood by CCPP. C.) If you agree to the Terms and Conditions proceed to the online ordering system by clicking I accept - Take me to the Budwood Order Forms. >From the Order Forms Page there are two options available for ordering budwood. **CCPP asks that you use option 1 whenever possible. Online orders eliminate paperwork and help us to process orders more efficiently** 1.) You may place Screenhouse and Early Release orders directly online using your user name and password. - If you do not yet have a username and password and would like one - If you have forgotten your username or password - If you have trouble using the online system please contact: John Bash by e-mail at: mailto:John.bash@ucr.edu Or by phone at 951-684-8580 -Or- 2.) You may print the downloadable Screenhouse and Early Release forms, including the Waiver and Release, from the online Order Forms Page and mail or FAX them to CCPP. All orders must be RECEIVED by the CCPP by the June 10, 2010 deadline or they cannot be processed. Send by mail To: Citrus Clonal Protection Program Attn: John Bash Department of Plant Pathology & Microbiology University of California, Riverside, CA 92521 By FAX to: CCPP Budwood Order 951-686-5612 For Screenhouse Budwood, a minimum order of 12 buds per variety is required, with a minimum total order of 36 buds per order . For Early Release Budwood a maximum of 12 buds per variety may be ordered with a minimum total order of 36 buds per order, subject to availability . Budwood may be ordered directly online or by using the forms available at the CCPP website (http://www.ccpp.ucr.edu) and returned by fax or mail. There is a minimum order of 12 buds per selection, and a minimum combined total of 36 buds ($27.00) for any one total order. Please submit Budwood Orders by June 10, 2010 We will not be able to fill orders received after June 10, 2010. Budwood will be cut the week of June 14-18, 2010 and will be shipped the following Monday. Please do not send payment for budwood with your order, you will be billed after you have received your budwood and are satisfied with the condition of the shipment. Reach the CCPP Website at: http://www.ccpp.ucr.edu John Bash mailto:john.bash@ucr.edu University of California, Riverside PH: 951-684-8580 FAX: 951-686-5612 www.ccpp.ucr.edu ------------------------------------------------ From: Mike McCright [mailto:natureboy@gotsky.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 11:04 AM Subject: Fresh Mangosteens In Ranch 99 Market (S. Diego) Good morning guys, I have not contributed for some time, but I wanted to pass on that I just bought some FRESH mangosteens at 99 Ranch Market and they are delicious. I have had canned but not fresh before. The fresh are great. Mike McCright ------------------------------------------------ From: "Gallego, Jose Miguel" To: Mike McCright Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 11:34:54 -0700 Subject: RE: Fresh Mangosteens In Ranch 99 Market (S. Diego) Hi Mike!! This is great!!! If you have a chance, could you post this announcement in our forums ( forums.crfgsandiego.org ) under ³Local Events² :^) I will stop by today and pick up some, how much are they? Take care, Jose Gallego ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Miramar Suburb - Dragon Fruit in Front Yard From: Leo Manuel Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 09:51:58 -0700 At 8756 Belfast street, near Mira Mesa Blvd, at the intersection of Westonhill and Belfast, the house has large Pitaya plants in the front yard with bloom buds. Do you know who lives there? Leo <><><><> Announcements And Web Pages To Consider <><><><> San Diego Chapter California Rare Fruit Growers Meeting: Where: Casa del Prado Building Room 101, Balboa Park When: Fourth Wednesday Of Each Month (Except December) See: http://www.crfgsandiego.org http://nc.crfgsandiego.org For North County CRFG Chapter Meeting http://www.crfg.org/chapters.html For information about ALL CRFG chapters. <> Agricultural Research Service (ARS) ars>news@arsgrin.gov <> http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/thelatest.htm. None this time <><><><><><><><><> End of RFN201006A.txt <><><><><><><><><><> Rare Fruit News Online - June 15, 2010 - AKA RFN201006B.txt ___________________________________________________________ <><><><> Notes In Passing - Leo <><><><> Gmail is now friendly for me! I'm happy to report that its possible to send email to me from Gmail addresses, which is a relief! It was a simple matter of going to Road Runner web mail page and discovering that there were blocks on them. I hadn't placed the blocks and it hadn't previously occured to me to check there. Now I hope to get more of your mail. Please do let me know if mail to me bounces and I'll try to find out why. It's been a relatively cool summer so far at our home in San Diego. Blooms on my pitaya (dragon fruit) have lagged what they usually have been. (Only one has opened so far.) There are numerous bloom buds growing, however.... Apricots are gone with Anna apples coloring up. How have your fruit behaved so far? Our Jaboticaba tree is producing more fruit than it has in years. I may have asked before, but has anyone had experience propagating the tree by air-layers? Is it considered difficult to get to root? <><><><><><><><><> Table Of Contents <><><><><><><><><> -> -> -> Messages follow the Table Of Contents <- <- <- <><><> New Subscribers <><><> None this time <><><> Readers Write <><><> How Do Dwarfed Fruit Trees Produce Large Fruit? Joel Akin Our Garden and Travel Plans W Chow Mystery black sapote (yellow skin!) Barry Hicks Espallier pitaya? Barry Hicks Butterflies and Passion Vines Hays, Gary FYI: Gulf Fritillary or Passion Butterfly Leo Manuel Canyon Peach Greg Saltzman RE: Canyon Peach Leo Manuel To: Greg Saltzman Re: Fresh Mangosteens In San Diego Ranch 99 Market Jose Miguel Gallego To: Mike Avocado Seeds Wanted To Try Growing Seedlings Darren FYI: Field Trips CRFG San Diego North County secetary nickerson Maybe Gmail mail is ok now Leo Manuel New Malaysian Fruit Site http://sites.google.com/site/malaysianedibleflora Frank Juhas -> -> -> -> -> -> Messages <- <- <- <- <- <- <><><><><><><><> New Subscribers <><><><><><><><><> None this time <><><><><><><><><> Readers Write<><><><><><><><><><> Subject: How Do Dwarfed Fruit Trees Produce Large Fruit? From: Joel Akin Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:34:50 -0600 Hi Leo, Testing Gmail. Anyone out there with specific insight into dwarf fruit trees? I am interested in knowing who has insight into what makes a tree small yet continue to produce fruit big enough to enjoy fully. I am not growing anything much at the moment but wish to be informed on what will make a dwarf fruit tree and what will make a fruit large and what makes dwarf trees possible for growing on a roof where people can go up and pick fruit much of the season they are fruiting. Much thanks Joel Akin mailto:earthhouse@gmail.com Calgary, Alberta Canada ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Our Garden and Travel Plans From: W Chow Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 10:37:37 -0700 (PDT) Hi Leo, We are going to see Yellow Stone and Mount Rushmore this summer. I have lots of coffee grounds. I also have pineapple already in the process of fruiting. I am still growing Taihiti squash. It is doing well. The yacon that you gave me is growing well. I found out that it has another name: Earth Apple. I tried a few pieces, it is juicy and taste a bit like an apple. Regards, William mailto:williamwchow@yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Mystery black sapote (yellow skin!) From: "Barry Hicks" Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 17:32:50 +1000 Hello Leo, I have a black sapote seedling that has me guessing. I bought it from a stall at a 'Sunday Market' . The fruit on this one differs from others I have grown. The fruit is only about 2 1/2" in dia, and turns yellow on the tree when ripe instead staying green. The skin is thick and hard. The flesh is full of seeds but looks and tastes as it should. Leaves look about right but the tree tends to spread. Can you, or any members tell me what I have. I might add, its life expectancy is not good. Regards Barry Hicks mailto:barryhicks@westnet.com.au ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Espallier pitaya? From: "Barry Hicks" Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 17:43:28 +1000 Hello Leo, Can anyone give my advice on growing a pitaya against a brick wall? I have a red pitaya (nameless - they don't seem to run to variety names down here) that I am thinking of growing against a east facing house wall. Plan 'A' is that I run a few wires against the wall to anchor the plant.. Am I kidding myself or can it be done? Regards, Barry Hicks mailto:barryhicks@westnet.com.au [It should be possible, and your Plan 'A' sounds feasible. Any other comments? Let us know how it does. -Leo] ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Butterflies and Passion Vines From: "Hays, Gary" Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 08:55:36 -0400 We have loads of butterflies every year. They looked like Monarchs but am not sure. However when our huge Passionflower vines were wiped out in the freeze so were the caterpillers, so nothing is left - very disappointing. -Probably Gulf Fritillary butterflies? Gary Hays mailto:ghays@harris.com [In San Diego I still haven't seen a Monarch around my numerous butterfly milkweed plants. When do they appear here? -Leo] ------------------------------------------------ Subject: FYI: Gulf Fritillary or Passion Butterfly From: Leo Manuel Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 08:04:54 -0700 [I looked on the 'net to find out more about this butterfly that Gary mentioned.... -Leo] The Gulf Fritillary or Passion Butterfly (Agraulis vanillae) is a striking, bright orange butterfly of the family Nymphalidae, subfamily Heliconiinae. These were formerly classified in a separate family, the Heliconiidae or longwing butterflies, and like other longwings this species does have long, rather narrow wings in comparison with other butterflies. It is not closely related to the true fritillaries. It is a medium to large butterfly, with a wingspan of 69.5 cm (2.43.7 in). Its underwings are buff, with large silvery spots.[1] It takes its name from migrating flights of the butterflies sometimes seen over the Gulf of Mexico. The Gulf Fritillary is commonly seen in parks and gardens, as well as in open country. Its range extends from Argentina through Central America, Mexico, and the Caribbean to the southern United States, as far north as the San Francisco Bay Area on the west coast. It is occasionally found further north in the US.[2] Larva The life cycle of the Gulf Fritillary The larva or caterpillar of the Gulf Fritillary grows to approximately 4 cm (1.6 in) in length and is bright orange in color and covered in rows of black spines on its head and back. The spines are soft to the touch and do not sting. However, the larvae are poisonous if eaten, as the bright coloration advertises. The larvae feed exclusively on species of passion flower such as Maypop (Passiflora incarnata), Yellow Passionflower (P. lutea) and Running Pop (P. foetida). Their toxic flesh provides Gulf Fritillary caterpillars with excellent protection from predators.[3] Many birds avoid them.[4] Some specialized insects are observed feeding on them, however, and larger caterpillars sometimes eat smaller ones. This species belongs to the "orange" Batesian mimicry complex. The chrysalis is approximately 3 cm (1.2 in) long; it is mottled brown and looks like a dry leaf. Cultivation of passion flowers in gardens has enabled the Gulf Fritillary to extend its range, for example into new areas of southern and northern California. ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Canyon Peach From: Greg Saltzman Date: Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 7:36 AM Hi Leo, I recently acquired what was labeled a "Canyon Peach" seedling. So far, I've been unable to find out anything about it. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Greg Saltzman mailto:salty777@gmail.com 619-368-6530 ------------------------------------------------ Subject: RE: Canyon Peach From: Leo Manuel Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 10:24:19 -0700 To: Greg Saltzman Hi Greg Where did you get it? From an individual or a commercial nursery? My guess: If it came from a seedling growing in the same climate zone as yours, it probably will do pretty well and be about the same as the parent tree. If it came from a commercial nursery with a trademark sign after the name, then I'd ask the nursery person about it. I'll put your question in the newsletter for next time, anyway. Thanks for writing, Leo [Has anyone else a suggestion for Greg? -Leo] ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Re: Fresh Mangosteens In San Diego Ranch 99 Market From: Jose Miguel Gallego Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 19:08:40 -0700 To: Mike Hi Mike and Leo, I was finally able to go today to Ranch 99 and picked up a bag of Mangosteen. Not cheap, $6.99/lb, for a bag of 12 it was 14.08! Got home and started opening in a couple, yeap they are fresh!! Not the frozen and thawed kind they had in the past and ending up with a mushy fruit. The fruit is fresh and tender, it has the typical, delicate mangosteen flavor, it actually reminded me why is call the Queen of the Fruits, well worth the purchase. Thanks for the tip! Jose mailto:JMGallego@LosGallego.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Avocado Seeds Wanted To Try Growing Seedlings From: "Darren" Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 00:42:15 GMT Hey Leo, I am in search of some Avocado Seeds/Pits whatever you want to call them. I can find Hass all day long, but want to try growing: Fuerte, Bacon, Zutano, Gwen, and Pinkerton. I know the whole story about not coming true to type and the length of time it takes to fruit, etc. It is the same with many of my Citrus. Seeing what comes out can be half the fun. I had a beautiful Hass tree growing, but I lost it this past Winter in the wicked cold we had, it was about a year or two from fruiting. I have rectified what I did wrong and am now ready to tackle the challenge again. Would you know where to get some of the above varieties? Maybe some of the readers can help? I am more than willing to cover the charge of shipping for a pit/seed and a little extra for their trouble. Hopefully somebody can help. Just to catch you up, I did get all my other exotics through the Winter. The Macadamia, Pacay, Cherimoya, Surinam Cherry,Jackfruit, Guava's, Red Dragon and of course all the Citrus came through with flying colors in the greenhouse. I felt pretty good considering we bottomed out at 18 and had two weeks straight of below freezing temps at night. Keep up the good work and thanks for any help! Darren Sheriff mailto:cactusmusic@netzero.com North Charleston, South Carolina ------------------------------------------------ Subject: FYI: Field Trips CRFG San Diego North County From: secetary nickerson Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 12:21:10 -0700 (PDT) Beaumont field trip 6/19 & Durling Nursery 6/12 - Because your secretary did not check his emails over the weekend Ben has extended the response deadline to Wednesday evening. Harry ---Forwarded Messages--- From: Ben Pierce Subject: Fwd: Beaumont field trip 6/19 & Durling Nursery 6/12 To: "Harry Nickerson" Date: Saturday, June 5, 2010, 8:08 AM Harry, Can you send out the following email to our members along with the attached directions: The San Diego chapter has graciously invited us to join them on their trip out to the Durling Citrus Nursery next week end. It is in Deluz so presents some challenges getting out there. The SD chapter has given us the following instructions. Durling Nursery Field Trip -- Sat. June 12th, our host would prefer if we all get there on time at 9 AM. They stressed out that even if you're in North County already, it can still take a long time to get to their nursery. Cell phones do not work on portions of De Luz Road, so attendees are warned to plan more time in order to get there on time. They'd like a head count so they'll know how much fruit samples to have available. I've attached the directions/map that you can forward to your members. Ask them to wear their name badge if they have them. I'll send instructions to our members who have signed up and I'll copy you on it. I've also asked about the possibility of purchasing 5-gal citrus trees. You must send an email to Ben Pierce at mariposafamily@gmail.com by Tuesday evening if you are interested in attending this event. We have to get a head count and a firm commitment out of you if you plan to go. This is a gracious offer by the SD chapter and Durling Nursery so we should respond in kind by meeting their request for an RSVP from our chapter. Thank you. Ben Pierce mailto:mariposafamily@gmail.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Cielo & Kevin Date: Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 5:06 PM Subject: Beaumont field trip 6/19 & Durling Nursery 6/12 To: Ben P Hi Ben, This June month, we won't have a chapter newsletter because our newsletter editor is on vacation. No one has volunteered to do it, and I suppose, I could have, but didn't, feeling worn out already. Between me and Jim, we'll make phone calls to our snail mail subscriber members letting them know about it and reminding them of upcoming special events. For our e-subscribers, we'll have a reader's digest condensed version via email only; no attachments. Jim has asked me to get the Beaumont cherry picking field trip information from you so I can include it. Do you know what the cost per pound of the cherries would be? Do we bring bags or are they provided? Do you need a head count or RSVP or can we put it out for anyone who wants to go? About the Durling Nursery Field Trip -- Sat. June 12th, our host would prefer if we all get there on time at 9 AM. They stressed out that even if you're in North County already, it can still take a long time to get to their nursery. Cell phones do not work on portions of De Luz Road, so attendees are warned to plan more time in order to get there on time. They'd like a head count so they'll know how much fruit samples to have available. I've attached the directions/map that you can forward to your members. Ask them to wear their name badge if they have them. I'll send instructions to our members who have signed up and I'll copy you on it. I've also asked about the possibility of purchasing 5-gal citrus trees. Just let me know your head count so I can pass it on. Thanks, Cielo North San Diego chapter members RSVP to Kathryn Blankinship at 760.518.9922 The Newsletter of the North County San Diego Chapter Of California Rare Fruit Growers June Meeting: We will meet at 7PM in room 7003 in the Horticulture Bldg. at MCCC. Ralph Evans will speak on Edible Bamboo. He is well qualified to speak on this fascinating subject. Ralph Evans started Botanical Partners in 1994, specializing in palms, flowering trees, and exotics. Evans began adding bamboo species in 1998.The combined growing grounds currently comprise 42 acres, including a 14 acre location in San Marcos, CA. This location has hundreds of popular varieties in production during all times of the year. Bamboo HQ also has a 20,000 square foot climate-controlled greenhouse that is used for propagation. The Sales office, and Corporate HQ is located on 4 acres and features a display garden with mature specimens in a landscape setting. The trade name BambooHQ.com was added in 2001, to reflect the full-service nature of the business: sales of bamboo plants, tools, rhizome barrier, books, and consulting services. July Meeting: This is our annual Pot Luck Picnic and Plant Sale. We will meet at 11 AM in the Eckert Bldg. In San Diego Botanical Gardens(formerly Quail). Lets start now getting those plants ready. San Diego County Fair 2010: Carol Graham is still in need of some volunteers. What we will mention here are those needed prior to our meeting of June 18th. She needs volunteers for the following shifts: 2 for the 2-5 shift Tuesday June 15th; 2 for the 2-5 shift Thursday June 17th; and 1 for the 10 am to 1 PM shift Saturday June 19th. For details see the May newsletter or call Carol at 760-753-6757 evenings are the best time to catch her. Meetings are held the 3rd Friday, 7 PM at Mira Costa College (MCC) One Bernard Dr., Oceanside in Room 7003 of the Horticultural Bldg... July 17 11 AM San Diego Botanical Gardens Annual Potluck Picnic & Plant Sale Officers and Contact information: Ben Pierce Chair 760-744-4716 mailto:ncsdcrfg@cox.net Kathryn Blankinship Vice Chair 760-518-9922 kblankinship1@cox.net Chapter website: http://nc.crfgsandiego.org/ ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Maybe Gmail mail is ok now From: Leo Manuel Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:01:04 -0700 I checked email settings (for the first time on road runner) and found several blocked emails listed, including what seemed to be all gmail clients. I stopped all blocked email (probably wish I hadn't) and sent myself an email from my rarefruit.manuel@gmail.com account, and it went through for the first time. You may ask why it took me so long to figure that out.... (I don't know, actually.) ------------------------------------------------ Subject: New Malaysian Fruit Site From: Frank Juhas Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 19:39:54 +0800 Hi, I've been doing research and documentation on Malaysian, mostly edible jungle fruits for 5 years. I just started to put up a site at http://sites.google.com/site/malaysianedibleflora I thought, you might want to look at it. Regards, Frank mailto:malaysianfruits2010@gmail.com http://sites.google.com/site/malaysianedibleflora <><><><> Announcements And Web Pages To Consider <><><><> San Diego Chapter California Rare Fruit Growers Meeting: Where: Casa del Prado Building Room 101, Balboa Park When: Fourth Wednesday Of Each Month (Except December) See: http://www.crfgsandiego.org http://nc.crfgsandiego.org For North County CRFG Chapter Meeting http://www.crfg.org/chapters.html For information about ALL CRFG chapters. <> Agricultural Research Service (ARS) ars>news@arsgrin.gov <> http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/thelatest.htm. None this time <><><><><><><><><> End of RFN201006B.txt <><><><><><><><><><> ! Rare Fruit News Online - July 1, 2011 - AKA RFN201107A.txt __________________________________________________________ <><><><> Noted In Passing - Leo <><><><> Cherry of the Rio Grande (Eugenia aggregata) - I have had my tree for quite a few years, and never had much fruit until this spring. I believe that the tree had not had enough water before, at least, I increased it for this year. We ate several quarts of delicious, dark-skinned fruit, but the season may be ending. (By the way, our increase in water usage resulted in a sizeable increase in the water bill.) Picture: http://toptropicals.com/pics/garden/05/eric/0030.jpg It is perhaps the best-tasting of the Eugenias. Do you agree? <><><><><><><><> Table Of Contents (TOC) <><><><><><><><> -> -> -> Messages follow the Table Of Contents <- <- <- <><><><><><><><> New Subscribers <><><><><><><><><> Rare Fruit News Online - July 1, 2010 - AKA RFN201007A.txt __________________________________________________________ <><><><> Notes In Passing - Leo <><><><> Two relatives had fruit-related questions for me. My nephew in Haiwaii asked me about treating his mango for "anthracnose fungus" and my oldest granddaughter, married and living in Hong Kong ate and liked Wampee fruit she ate there, and asked me about it. Unfortunately, I couldn't provide much reliable for either of them, from my own experience. Does Wampee grow in Southern California? I have placed several mango grafts, some of which are already looking as if they will grow. Pitaya plants are blooming in greater numbers, although the blooms seem to be later than usual. I was forced to use pollen from an epiphyllum one time, and it looks as if it will produce fruit. As the weather warms and the promise of rainfall fades, we are faced with the need to use expensive water, and again deciding what to keep just alive, and which ones to give just enough to have fruit. It's a tough choice, isn't it? <><><><><><><><><> Table Of Contents <><><><><><><><><> -> -> -> Messages follow the Table Of Contents <- <- <- <><><> New Subscribers <><><> New Subscriber New Zealand North of Auckland Mia Berggren New Subscriber­San Diego­Likes Dragon Fruit Stevie Simone <><><> Readers Write <><><> Want Macadamia tree source near Dana Point, CA JIM WAGNER Re: Propagating Jaboticaba Chris Hind RE: Propagating Jaboticaba Oscar Jaitt Re: Propagating Jaboticaba rarefruit@san.rr.com To: fruitlovers@hotmail.com A note on Gulf Fritillary butterflies Bob Holzinger Considering Planting Of Pitaya In E. Australia Paul Butler FWD: USDA updates citrus greening quarantine Leo Manuel Year's First Monarch Butterfly 6/25/10 Leo Manuel Gardening News from Nan Sterman Nan Sterman, Plant Soup, Inc Re: Mango problem with anthracnose CHINO228@aol.com Black & White Sapote fruit in the garden Cielo My Granddaughter Asks Me About Wampee Erin Mickens San Diego County Fair Volunteers Sought Harry Nickerson Re: Anthracnose on Mango - Treatment? Tom Del Hotal -> -> -> -> -> -> Messages <- <- <- <- <- <- <><><><><><><><> New Subscribers <><><><><><><><><> Subject: New Subscriber New Zealand North of Auckland From: Leo Manuel Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 17:13:43 -0700 Hi, My name is Mia Berggren and I live North of Auckland (Whangaparaoa and Mangawhai Heads) on the North Island of New Zealand. I would love to receive your e-newsletter to my email address: mkberggren@hotmail.com I have a 3 acre paddock up Coastal Mangawhai where I am currently growing citruses but also temperate climate fruit trees. I am currently trying to establish a subtropical orchard. So far I have planted tamarillo (yellow, orange), Inga edulis, Ladyfinger banana, 6 avocados (high density planting) and guava (red, yellow, tropical). Next it will be a macadamia hedge (20 plants), casimiroa (White Sapote) Wooky Woo (apparently a NZ variety), North American pawpaw and a Brazilian Jaboticaba. I found your site as I was surfing around looking for tips on growing rootstock and grafting casimiroa (White Sapote), cherimoya and astringent persimmon. I know an elderly couple who have long collected sub tropical plants on their 16 ha farm outside Auckland. They have 12 different astringent persimmons and over 20 different varieties of casimiroas and cherimoyas. They are putting their property on the market in February (our summer) and I am worried that all those plants might then be cut down and lost. This is a problem since NZ is an island with very strict plant quarantine rules and bringing in new plant material is very difficult and expensive. I have heard that the best way to propagate is to plant seeds in winter (now) and then start grafting on to this rootstock in October (early spring). Is this correct? Can you give any advice at all? Regards, Mia Berggren mailto:mberggren@ampac.net ------------------------------------------------ Subject: New Subscriber­San Diego­Likes Dragon Fruit From: Leo Manuel Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:21:45 -0700 Hello, I was up late looking for a different farmers market to visit tomorrow with my husband and came across this site. My diet has changed drastically over the past 6 months and I would like to continue to add fresh, local and interesting produce. We do not grow our own fruits and veggies yet, but I have started a healthy living blog, mainly for my family. I lost a friend at a young age a few months ago due to heart disease and obesity (ie. poor dietary habits). This prompted me to further my education (I am currently in school studying to be a Holistic Health Practitioner) and begin seriously sharing healthy eating and lifestyle information with others. Both my husband and I would love to grow, but more immediately desire to include some of the exotic, delicious fruit that we didn't even know were available to us here in San Diego. Specifically dragonfruit. I have had it for the first time recently and I love it! I have had something similar while visiting Mexico called Atun (cactusfruit). I have found the Atun here, but not the dragonfruit. So, I would like to subscribe to your newsletter to hopefully broaden my resources and horizons, while looking for interesting ways to create the healthiest diet possible. Thank you and I hope to hear from you soon. Respectfully, Stevie Simone mailto:healthandbeautyremixed@gmail.com <><><><><><><><><> Readers Write<><><><><><><><><><> Subject: Want Macadamia tree source near Dana Point, CA From: "JIM WAGNER" Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 08:37:14 -0700 Hello Leo, Always enjoy your News Letter!!! Do you know where I can buy a Grafted Macadamia nut tree (Beaumont or Vista) or any good tasting variety that will do well near the Coast! Cheers, Jim Wagner Dana Point, CA ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Re: Propagating Jaboticaba From: Chris Hind Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 14:02:59 -0400 Maybe a year or more. I didn't have a lot of luck with it. On 6/15/10, Leo Manuel wrote: > Hi Chris > > How long would you say it takes for decent roots to develop with > air layering? I've had mango and cherimoya to take two years. > > Thanks again! > > Leo > > Chris Hind wrote: >> Jaboticaba air layering is incredibly slow. > It is possible but not worth it. ------------------------------------------------ Subject: RE: Propagating Jaboticaba From: Oscar Jaitt Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 12:41:30 -1000 Leo, You might be interested to know that now there is a type of hybrid jaboticaba being called precocious jaboticaba. It can fruit in 3 years from seeds, as opposed to 8-10 years for regular jaboticaba! I plan to start carrying seeds soon on my seed page: http://www.fruitlovers.com/seedlist.hml Oscar Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 21:04:11 -0700 From: rarefruit@san.rr.com To: fruitlovers@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Propagating Jaboticaba Leo, I've tried air layering jaboticaba and the few that I tried did not take. I have a friend who told me he succesfully started them from cuttings. Jaboticaba can be grafted also using approach graft and cleft graft. Oscar, Hawaii ------------------------------------------------ Subject: A note on Gulf Fritillary butterflies From: "Bob Holzinger" Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:28:30 -0400 Leo, A small correction to the notes on the Gulf Fritillary in the June 15th RFNO. I think the wings are 6.95 cm wide, not 69.5 cm, an easy mistake. For those who like to have the butterflies eating their passilfora vines (I dont), the species of passiflora that the caterpillars eat is limited to P. caerulea, P. incarnata, P. Incense, and species native to higher altitudes in the Andes. The fruiting species such as P. edulis, P. edulis f. flavicarpa, P. alata, P. Phoenicia, P. quadrangularis, and P. Purple Tiger are not bothered by these caterpillars. They are native to the lowlands of Central and South America and have evolved toxins that repel this and other species of butterfly larvae. Of course, in their native environment I think every passiflora species has at least one butterfly that will use it as a host for their caterpillars. Bob ------------------------------------------------ Subject: RE: File - Nutrition chart for Pitaya From: "Paul Butler" Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 10:09:13 +1000 Hi Leo Thank you very much for your friendly welcome to the Pitaya Group. I am a somewhat unobtrusive/uncommunicative member of your Rare Fruit Newsletter also. I am here in the sub-tropical Northern Rivers area of Eastern Australia where I hope to retire in the next 5 years. We are on a 40 acre property and the soil and the climate make it ideal for growing most everything that doesnt require low chill and part of the retirement plan is to make the land cover its costs, and I am strongly considering putting in a couple or three acres of pitaya. The Australian market for the fruit and value added products is undersupplied at the moment and they are a beautiful plant. Anyway, I love the fruit and have tried drying it and making sorbets from it and love them all! I look forward to being part of the group. Cheers, Paul Butler mailto:paul.butler@adas.org.au ------------------------------------------------ Subject: FWD: USDA updates citrus greening quarantine From: Leo Manuel Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 05:59:02 -0700 Agri-Bytes, June 2010 USDA updates citrus greening quarantine By Vicky Boyd Editor The U.S. Department of Agriculture has announced a new quarantine on citrus greening and Asian citrus psyllid. The interim rule expands the existing quarantine, adds new approved treatment methods and exempts fully processed products, such as kaffir lime leaf. Most of the areas contained in the interim rule had already been under quarantine, says Greg Rosenthal, a spokesman for the USDAs Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service in Riverdale, Md. The areas already quarantined for citrus greening are Florida, Georgia, Puerto Rico, two parishes in Louisiana and two counties in South Carolina. The major change is the addition of the U.S. Virgin Islands, where citrus greening was confirmed in May. But citrus from the Virgin Islands had not been allowed into the United States because of fruit fly quarantines, Rosenthal says. Each time a pest of concern is confirmed in an area, the USDA issues an emergency order, he says. The latest proposed rule incorporates all of those earlier orders into one. This is an effort to codify all of these orders into an interim rule and invite the public to comment on it, Rosenthal says. The USDA also has quarantined Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Louisiana, Mississippi and Texas, and the territories of Guam, Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands for Asian citrus psyllid, the insect that can carry and transmit citrus greening. In addition, the USDA has quarantined three counties in South Carolina; all of Los Angeles, Orange and Imperial County and parts of San Bernardino, San Diego and Riverside County in California; and part of Yuma County in Arizona for psyllid. http://www.growermagazine.com/tabid/91/Default.aspx?tid=1&cid= 838486&hq_e=el&hq_m=750376&hq_l=8&hq_v=fe26d0e1b2 Fresh From the Field Subscribe to Fresh from the Field to get this content in your inbox every month! Agri-Bytes, June 2010 USDA updates citrus greening quarantine ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Year's First Monarch Butterfly 6/25/10 From: Leo Manuel Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:33:07 -0700 Dear Readers, I hope I don't annoy you with my excessive interest in the Monarch Butterfly. I'm happy that one finally came in late June. It may not be from a migrating group, as a few weeks ago our friend Alice Snow gave me a large caterpillar that soon pupated. This butterfly has come repeatedly almost every day since, but I can't see any evidence of eggs or caterpillars yet. Has anyone else in Southern California seen any this summer? Leo [Today, July 1, a female left at least six eggs on some young milkweed plants (Tropical Milkweed, Asclepias curassavica). One internet source claims that as many eggs don't hatch, for various reasons. But I'm heartened by the sight! -Leo] ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Gardening News from Nan Sterman From: "Nan Sterman, Plant Soup, Inc" Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 02:40:23 -0400 (EDT) Write Nan Sterman or visit www.PlantSoup.com for her helpful information Nan Grows Gardens Waterwise Sustainable Edible Beautiful! In addition to designing and writing about gardens, Nan teaches classes,lectures, and holds workshops throughout California. She also appears on television and radio. Country Taste Tomato County Taste Tomato Save water in your summer vegetable garden... Vegetables are notoriously thirsty - after all, a tomato is a sweet/tart juicy fruit!. Take steps to save water in your vegetable garden. * Convert to drip irrigation. Drip was invented for growing fruits and vegetables. It puts water onto the ground, where it is needed, rather than onto plant leaves or into the air. It also keeps leaves dry, which helps prevent mildew and other diseases * Mulch with straw. A thick layer of straw keeps soil moist, but is light enough for seedlings to push through. Look for aged straw (rather than fresh straw) at your local feed store. DON"T USE hay, alfalfa, or other materials with seeds. Otherwise, you'll grow a garden of weeds! Call Nan on the WaterSmart Pipeline Tuesday mornings and Thursday afternoons 1 866 962-7021 Plus... County Taste TomatoContact mailto:info@PlantSoup.com For garden consultations and other business, please call 760 634-2902 www.PlantSoup.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Mango problem with anthracnose From: CHINO228@aol.com Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:01:20 EDT Leo wrote: Hi Maurice, My nephew in Hawaii (I've forgotten which island) has a mango tree that he believes has what he calls anthracnose fungus and thought I should know how to rid the tree of the problem. He doesn't know what variety the mango is. Do you have anything I can tell him so he doesn't lose confidence in his uncle? He didn't mention whether he's concerned about staying organic in the treatment. Leo, In an article that appeared in Tropical Fruit News, Mike Vaugh in Miami also had a large mango tree that was no longer bearing fruits. He decided to use Bio-Wash organic Plant Care (for which I handle sales for the Rare Fruit Council), sprayed his tree several times and ended up with a bumper crop. His fruits were also clean and anthracnose free which was a problem he had before Another RFCI member who has 5 acres of mangoes had tear-drop stain problem which is a milder symptom of anthracnose and reported Bio-Wash solved his problem. He ships his mangoes to stateside customers so its important that his fruits are clean and free from anthracnose. In a nutshell, Bio-Wash Organic Plant Care would fit in nicely with his operation since it appears he's an organic grower. How many trees does he have and does he have any other mango problems? Our summer has been cool so far, but I expect August will see much hotter temperatures. Some months ago, you wrote that your Asian mango did not perform. I forgot the details but somehow recall you had fruit drop and the mango fruit did not size up. Perhaps you too might consider using Bio-Wash not only for mango but for your other fruit trees and vegetables as well. I'm sending you a copy of the Bio-Wash article you can resend to your nephew so he will have a better idea as to what Bio-Wash Plant Care is all about. Maurice ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Black & White Sapote fruit in the garden From: Cielo Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:52:39 -0700 (PDT) Hi Leo, I know you've grafted a black sapote onto your Fuyu persimmon tree, has it ever flowered or fruited for you? I've harvested a few black sapote fruits in the last few weeks. For anyone who's never seen nor tasted a ripe black sapote, the fruit turns from green to dark -- almost black and the fruit is soft to the touch. The fruit resembles a Fuyu persimmon in shape, but the inside is thick and black. When in the garden, I cut it in wedges and eat it fresh -- skin and all.. Otherwise, I cut them in wedges and serve over a vanilla ice cream -- tastes like chocolate ice cream! The latter is probably my preferred way to eat it. Fruit on my Suebelle white sapote is ripening on the tree; I've picked up a few on the ground that's already ripe. The birds don't seem to bother them. My McDill hasn't done much at all. My Vernon, which is typically late, is just now flowering. My canistel (yellow sapote) fruit trees thrive in lotsa water! Arghhh! I'll be happy when they start to fruit to pay me back for the water. Speaking of water, I haven't used tap water in the garden at all this year; however, unless it rains anytime soon, I'll have to use tap water beginning next month. We're off to Miami next week for the International Mango Festival. BTW, next year in July is the International Rare Fruit Conference at the Fruit & Spice Park. See you next month at our Mango Fandango event. I think, that's what Jim called it. Two years ago, I organized a mango tango event. Any which way to celebrate mangos is good fun. Fruitfully, Cielo in Coastal San Diego [I got scions of Black Sapote (Black Persimmon) from George Emerich several years ago to place on a B. S. tree at my home. After placing several grafts, I placed one on a Giant Fuyu persimmon. Strangely, none of the grafts on the Black Sapote were successful but the one on the Giant Fuyu was. It blooms every year but doesn't set fruit. This Giant Fuyu is the one that's deep and not flat, as another one is. -Leo] ------------------------------------------------ Subject: My Granddaughter Asks Me About Wampee From: Erin Mickens Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 17:12:30 -0700 Dear Grandpa, Hi! How are you? I wanted to tell you that yesterday my colleague brought some fruit to school that she grows in her yard. I had never seen, eaten, or heard of it before, but it was so good! It tasted kind of like a kumquat but smaller and with different seeds. Here is the website about them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clausena_lansium In Chinese, the name is "wong pei" which means yellow peel/skin. I guess in English it is called "wampee". Have you ever heard of them? They are really delicious! Nice and tart!! Love, Erin in Hong Kong [Readers, I don't recall seeing a wampee. Is it grown in S. California? -Leo] ------------------------------------------------ Subject: San Diego County Fair Volunteers Sought From: secetary nickerson Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 17:21:00 -0700 (PDT) To: Harry Nickerson Carol Graham is very short of volunteers to man our CRFG booth during the closing days at the county fair.Below is a list of the shortages: June 30 Wed 11AM--2PM 2PM-5PM No volunteer for either shift July 1 Thu 11AM--2PM 2PM-5PM No volunteer for either shift July 2 Fri 2 PM --5PM no volunteer July 3 Sat 1PM-4PM no volunteer July 4 Sund 1PM-4PM have one volunteer need another July 5 Mond 10AM-1PM 1PM-4PM No volunteer for either shift Volunteers are admitted free and are free to explore the fair before or afte their shift. Parking is also free. Please call Carol at 760-753-6757 to volunteer and help close this gap. Harry Nickerson ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Re: Anthracnose on Mango - Treatment? From: Tom Del Hotal Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 06:42:24 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Hi Leo, Controlling anthracnose requires proper timing and a consistant treatment regime to keep it nder control. Sprays must be applied before infection for best results, however, removing and destroying infected branches and fruit and follow up treatments can bring it under control. Here in California, Daconil is a preferred fungicide and Neem oil is quite effective as well. Copper based fungicides can also be effective if copper percentage is high enough. I am attaching a great article on anthracnose treatment for mangos with products listed for use in Hawwii. Call me if you have other questions. Tom 619 454-2628 ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Pitaya Festival Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 19:46:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Edgar Valdivia August 14th at Cal Poly Pomona. - 3801 W. Temple Ave. Bldg 35, Pomona, CA 91768. 12th of August ­ Tours to different gardens including mine and the South Coast Rsearch Station (where Ramiro Lobo will be offering a guided tour of the pitahaya collection 13th of August ­ Tours to the Huntington Botanical Gardens in Pasadena-Please note that usually admission is $18 per person. But for all those registered it will be free. Cal Poly Pomona Pitahaya plantation (2 acres) 5pm-8pm. 14th of August ­This will be at Cal Poly Pomona. We have 24 speakers, 3 will be speaking about pitahayas: Ramiro Lobo, Maritza Cantwell and Grey Martin; the others will cover different fruit-related subjects. 6-8pm with a keynote speaker 15th of August- Tours of the Fullerton Arboretum and of the Elk Creek Ranch that specializes in pitahayas. Registration is $35 per person until July 15th, after that date it will go up to $45 per person. <><><><> Announcements And Web Pages To Consider <><><><> San Diego Chapter California Rare Fruit Growers Meeting: Where: Casa del Prado Building Room 101, Balboa Park When: Fourth Wednesday Of Each Month (Except December) See: http://www.crfgsandiego.org http://nc.crfgsandiego.org For North County CRFG Chapter Meeting http://www.crfg.org/chapters.html For information about ALL CRFG chapters. <> Agricultural Research Service (ARS) ars>news@arsgrin.gov <> http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/thelatest.htm. None this time <><><><><><><><><> End of RFN20107A.txt <><><><><><><><><><> Reminder: Rare Fruit News Online is a newsletter that is much different from most newsletters. You subscribe if you want to have a place where you AND other readers write to either ask questions or to answer questions other readers have posed. Also, you and the other readers exchange information about fruit-growing problems or solutions. It is not designed to be a stream of information that the editor collects to distribute, although it sometimes does so. It withers and dies if YOU don't write to share information that other readers can relate to. Interested in reading past issues of RFNO? Those published in previous years can be accessed at the homepage for Rare Fruit News Online http://www.rarefruit.com RFNO in 2009: http://www.rarefruit.com/RFN2009AllYr.txt RFNO in 2008: http://www.rarefruit.com/RFN2008AllYr.txt RFNO in 2007: http://www.rarefruit.com/RFN2007AllYr.txt RFNO in 2006: http://www.rarefruit.com/RFN2006AllYr.txt RFNO in 2005: http://www.rarefruit.com/RFN2005AllYr.txt RFNO in 2004: http://www.rarefruit.com/RFN2004AllYr.txt RFNO in 2003: http://www.rarefruit.com/RFN2003AllYr.txt RFNO in 2002: http://www.rarefruit.com/RFN2002AllYr.txt RFNO in 2001: http://www.rarefruit.com/RFN2001AllYr.txt RFNO in 2000: http://www.rarefruit.com/RFN2000AllYr.txt RFNO in 1999: http://www.rarefruit.com/RFN1999AllYr.txt RFNO in 1998: http://www.rarefruit.com/RFN1998AllYr.txt RFNO in 1997: http://www.rarefruit.com/RFN1997AllYr.txt RFNO in 1996: http://www.rarefruit.com/RFN1996AllYr.txt The newsletter for the current year will be updated after each publication. At least, that's my hope. There are three email addresses for me. The one I will get most readily is rarefruit@san.rr.com, but either of these other two will also work: Better: leo92129@yahoo.com, and OK: rarefruit.manuel@gmail.com, and leom@rarefruit.com If you respond to questions in the newsletter, why not send a CC to me to include in the next issue? Often other readers have the same question, and would appreciate your information. -- ================================================================ mailto:rarefruit@san.rr.com or mailto:rarefruit.manuel@gmail.com or mailto:leo92129@Yahoo.com http://www.rarefruit.com Pitaya Newsgroup - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PitayaFruit/ ================================================================ None this time <><><><><><><><><> Readers Write<><><><><><><><><><> RE: The Jamaican Lilikois-Passiflora laurifolia Oscar Jaitt June North County CRFG Newsletter CRFG Rare Fruit Council-Palm Beach-Fruit Tree Sale 7/16/11 Joel Vinikoor Blackberry problem; Need organic solution Pat Wolff Five Gal 5 Ft Tall Citrus for $12.50! K Lakomy Flavor Supreme Pluot in SLO Joe Sabol To: Tom Spellman Nectarines and Blackberries lindasun@alldial.net To: kvedadhaghi@gmail.com Apricots ! lindasun@alldial.net To: kvedadhaghi@gmail.com FW: Bee Hive needs home K Lakomy David and the Goji Berry response!!! Joe Sabol To: David Johnson My garden update-In Coastal San Diego Cielo -> -> -> -> -> -> Messages <- <- <- <- <- <- <><><><><><><><> New Subscribers <><><><><><><><><> None this time <><><><><><><><><> Readers Write<><><><><><><><><><> Subject: RE: The Jamaican Lilikois-Passiflora laurifolia From: Oscar Jaitt Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:46:00 -1000 Bob Holzinger is correct, the jamaican lilikois is Passiflora laurifolia. I don't think he is correct that this fruit is very tropical. I would consider it a sub tropical. Here in Hawaii it does not fruit well below 1000 ft. elevation. I grow this fruit at 650 ft. and it rarely fruits for lack of chill. So I think it would do well in warmer areas of Southern California, like along the coast, as long as there is no frost. The real lilikoi, Passiflora edulis var. flavicarpa, is truly tropical and grows here all along the coast. Oscar, Oscar Jaitt mailto:fruitlovers@hotmail.com Hawaii ------------------------------------------------ Subject: June North County CRFG Newsletter From: "CRFG" Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:32:26 -0700 SD Fair Volunteers Still Needed! By Harry Nickerson and Carol Graham Thursday 30 June - 2-5PM need two more Friday 1 July - 11AM-2PM need one more Sunday 3 July - 10AM-1PM and 1-4PM need two more (DESPERATE NEED-no one signed up for either shift this day) 2011 Festival of Fruit; Hosted by AZRFG, the Ariz. chap. of CRFG AZRFG will be holding the 2011 Festival Of Fruit between Thurs., Nov. 3, and Sun., Nov. 6. Local tours will be held Thursday, Friday, and Sunday. The main event, which includes seminars, meals, and classes, will take place on the Arizona State University Campus in Tempe, AZ, on Nov. 5, 2011. CRFG members from all over the country will be converging on Arizona for this annual event. Members of the general public are also welcome to attend. Plant vendors will also be invited. Please go to our registration page to register. Have a question or a comment for us? Please email us at jennyhome@msn.com, and well respond as quickly as possible. CRFG North San Diego County Chapter Harry Nickerson 1815 Yettford RD Vista CA 92083 http://nc.crfgsandiego.org Calendar Activities N. County CRFG June 17, Fri. 7pm CRFG-NSDC Meeting @ MiraCosta College, Oceanside, Student Center RM 3450 (note the new location!) Summer Pruning for More Fruit with Dr. Andy Hudson July 10, Sun. - Shared SD chapter potluck/picnic at Sundance Ranch. July 16, Sat. - Shared NC chapter potluck/picnic at SDBG July 23, Sat.10am t- Tour of Bob Meyers Orchard Aug. - No meeting; Tour of Jim Rockoff and Art & Dottie Logans gardens; air layering demo Sept. 16, Fri. 7pm CRFG-NSDC Meeting - Drought Tolerant Fruit with Roger Meyer; Jujube tasting Sept. 16-18, Fri.-Sun. - SD Home & Garden Show Sept. 24, Sat. 10am - Tour Kinnard and Lau Garden More Doin's June 18, Sat. 10-3 - Master Gardeners Plant Sale, Room 101, Casa del Prado, Balboa PK June 22, Wed. 7pm CRFG-SD Chapter Meeting @ Balboa PK, Casa del Prado, Rm. 101 Deciduous Fruits Round-up & Taste-off July 27, Wed. 7pm CRFG-SD Chapter Meeting @ Balboa PK, Casa del Prado, Rm. 101 Mango Fandango: Panel on Mango Varieties, Grafting and Culture; Mangoes and Ice Cream Social MiraCosta Horticulture Department Nursery Open 9 am- 2 pm Mon, Wed, and Fri (closed on school holidays) Stocked with a diverse selection of ornamental and edible plants, including drought tolerant & California-friendly plants for your gardening needs! Knowledgeable staff to assist you in selecting the appropriate plants for your garden. Unique plant selection is continually changing Support your local community college Horticulture program! For additional information call 760.757.2121 x6994. For Information To Control Pocket Gophers, See: http://cesandiego.ucdavis.edu/Home_Gardening_and_Pest_Control/ http://cesandiego.ucdavis.edu/Agriculture,_Horticulture_and_Landscape/ http://cesandiego.ucdavis.edu/files/74121.pdf http://cesonoma.ucdavis.edu/files/27165.pdf http://ceyolo.ucdavis.edu/files/53002.pdf http://ipm.ucdavis.edu/QT/gopherscard.html http://ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn7433.html New Meeting Room! Were growing and have outgrown our current meeting space. For this next meeting we have reserved Room 3450 in the MiraCosta College Student Center at 1 Barnard DR, Oceanside CA 92056, which holds 80 people. See a campus map at http://nc.crfgsandiego.org/Portals/2/map_ocn.pdf Master Gardeners Annual Plant Sale Sat. June 18, 10-3, Room 101, Casa del Prado, Balboa Park, mastergardenerssandiego.org Harry ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Rare Fruit Council-Palm Beach-Fruit Tree Sale 7/16/11 From: "Joel Vinikoor" Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:22:58 -0400 Hi Leo, Please make the following announcement in your next newsletter: Rare Fruit Council-Palm Beach Chapter will hold a huge Fruit Tree Sale at the South Florida Fairgrounds in West Palm Beach, Florida. Saturday July 16, 2011. 9 AM to 2 PM. Large selection of mangos, bananas, avocados, citrus, lychees, canistel, jackfruit and hundreds of other tropical fruit trees in addition to herb and spice plants. Arrive early for the best selection. For more information email Joel joelv@bellsouth.net Thanks, Joel VinikoorOscar Jaitt mailto:fruitlovers@hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Blackberry problem; Need organic solution From: "Pat Wolff" Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:06:37 -0700 Last spring I got some blackberry and youngberry starts from a friend in Altadena, CA. They are growing like mad and I have gotten some delicious berries, but her vines are infested with a nasty pest this year which causes the berries to rot from the inside out, apparently is some tiny insect which lays eggs on the green fruit, which hatch into tiny maggots, which make foamy fermented plus foul tasting stuff around the core of the berry. Even if only one druplet (is that the right term?) is infested, the whole berry is ruined! She has a large crop now, but it's all ruined. Anybody know what that is, and how to prevent it? We are basically organic types, so I don't want to just spray poison everywhere. Pat Wolff mailto:partwolff@yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Five Gallon 5 Ft Tall Citrus for $12.50! From: K Lakomy Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 09:55:55 -0700 (PDT) Fellow Fruit Gardeners, Home Depot has received a wide assortment of citrus trees, including many named varieties of lime, lemon, tangerine, orange, grapefruit etc. They are 5 gallon, 5 foot tall, healthy specimens selling for $12.50. All are on standard rootstock. All Home Depots have received shipments, but not all have received the same varieties. If you are in the market for citrus, this is a nice opportunity for you! Good Luck. Karen Lakomy CRFG - San Diego MEmbership & Hospitality ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Flavor Supreme Pluot in SLO From: Joe Sabol Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 15:18:13 -0700 (PDT) To: Tom Spellman Hi Tom... Happy Summer to you!!! I bought my Flavor Supreme Pluot tree from Bay Laurel Nursery way back in 1992. It is a full sized tree (way too big for the Spellman/Laivo Rule) and has had an average of 6 to 12 very nice fruit a year. Cross pollination is not a problem, I have dozens of other plums, apricots, Pluots in bloom at the same time. Tom, The Flavor Supreme is by far, the very best tasting fruit we grow. I bag up each fruit individually to keep the birds from taking even one bite. I have been pleased with this low number of fruit as I eat each fruit within 10 to 12 seconds of picking. Tom: As the tree gets older, I am convinced it has decided it will never get enough chill in San Luis Obispo. The tree has decided to slowly give me more and more fruit regardless of the DWN chill estimates. I might have 100 nice sized Flavor Supreme fruit this year. Yes, one hundred!! It has been worth the wait. I might have enough to bring a few in the house this year and share one with Jill. Joe mailto:jsabol@calpoly.edu [Tell us about the bags you use for fruit to protect from birds.] ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Nectarines and Blackberries From: lindasun@alldial.net Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 01:44:56 -0400 To: kvedadhaghi@gmail.com Dear Kris, Congratulations on your blackberries! If you just planted your Nectarines last year you probably need to wait another year or two for maturity. I am assuming that you planted the graft (the bud union) one inch above the soil.) Peaches and Nectarines need more nitrogen than most other fruit trees. Blood meal at 3 to 5 kg per mature tree (6.6 to 11 pounds) or calcium ammonium nitrate at 1/2 to 1 kg (1 to 2 pounds), but better yet, lots and lots of compost. If your tree is growing well and is not a genetic dwarf, remember that you must prune severely in January or February. A continual supply of new, young wood is essential. Some Nectarines at 300 chill hours or fewer: Artic Star, Desert Delight, Gulf Pride, Panamint, Pioneer, Snor Queen, Southern Belle, Sunred. UCR found that Brown Rot fungus susceptibility was increased by excessive nitrogen fertilization and pre-harvest calcium sprays reduced the infection, but not as well as fungicidal control. I hope that some of this helps, Linda Sun Kilfeather mailto:lindasun@alldial.net ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Apricots ! From: lindasun@alldial.net Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 01:59:41 -0400 To: kvedadhaghi@gmail.com Dear Kris, I didn't notice that you also had the same problem with apricots. Fruiting begins in the second year, but substantial bearing begins at 3 to 5 years. Do not irrigate Apricots ater leaf fall. Some sources, the University of California, for example, say that Apricots require cross-pollenizing and that 2 varieties should be planted. The flower and fruit spur dies within 2 to 5 years and must be pruned periodically so that it will be replaced by new growth. Prune in SUMMERTIME, when it is dry, to avoid disease from pruning cuts. So not use lime-sulphur on apricots as it damages the shoots. USE NO SULFUR AT ALL. Use copper fungicides only. You probably already know all this, and I wish you the best of luck. Linda Sun Killfeather mailto:lindasun@alldial.net ------------------------------------------------ Subject: FW: Bee Hive needs home From: K Lakomy Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 18:49:41 -0700 (PDT) Fellow Fruit Gardeners, The following is a message forwarded from CRFG member Britt Cool. If you are interested in the bee hive, please contact her directly. Karen Lakomy CRFG - San Diego --- On Sun, 6/26/11, San diego Water recycling wrote: Hello: Can you send this to the group. Would anyone like to have a birdhouse with a bee colony in it? It is already established, they could just put it up on a fence at the back of their property, wouldn't have to work the hive, just let it be there to pollinate in their fruit trees and garden. I could pick it up and move it into their yard. I don't have use for another bee hive in my yard. Britt Cool mailto:sandiegowaterrecycling@yahoo.com www.SanDiegoWaterRecycling.com 619-752-5922 ------------------------------------------------ Subject: David and the Goji Berry response!!! From: Joe Sabol Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 10:47:01 -0700 (PDT) To: David Johnson David: Another fantastic response to a tough question!!! You are amazing!!! You are also a treasure for CRFG and for all who have tough questions. Thanks for sharing!!! Joe mailto:jsabol@calpoly.edu ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Johnson" To: darkempressoftheunderworld@yahoo.com, "all on C RFG" Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 10:17:34 AM Subject: RE: Goji Berry? Kayleen I only have one plant left, that I dug up and survived, still alive in a one gallon pot, and hiding behind some seedling guavas, and maybe still alive. I dug up dozens and dozens of seedlings and rooted suckers coming up from the roots a few years ago, and had only a very slight survival rate, one survived out of over 50 plants carefully dug and quickly replanted to pots, and kept in the partial shade. Apparently they do not respond well to transplanting, if the roots are disturbed very much; the Goji berry plants I got were in pots, from Timpanagos Nursery, out of Utah, most likely seedlings or rooted cuttings. The Wolfberry plants came from Burnt Ridge Nursery, from Washington State, also in small pots, and also not bare root. Not quite sure how to help you, find better plant sources, the plants I got were just fine, and grew nicely. The Goji plants grew from a 12 inch seedling, to like 4 feet tall the first season, and set fruit the following season, so the wait is not too long. The problem now would be getting plants at all online, most online are often out on high demand items, but maybe the demand is lower now and you could find some. I have never had a problem with Burnt Ride Nursery , but they don't seem to have any right now. I looked and noticed that One Green World http://www.onegreenworld.com//index.php?cPath=4_119 has an actualy varietal strain of Goji berry, from Northern China, called Crimson Star, but it is pricey, $20; Rain Tree Nursery http://www.raintreenursery.com/Berries/Goji_Berry/ ; their price $10 for a different type of selection of a better then average strain, I would also check the CRFG Member Nursery list online, they might have others, these are nurseries you could put more trust in. I tried to access it and it keeps freezing up my computer, and never goes there, so think at the moment the site is down or my computer is a bit overloaded; you can do a google search for CRFG and find it later. I hope it is ok , I am also going to copy this to a few others in the California Rare Fruit Growers organization, of which I belong, which like myself, help others to find answers to their fruit growing questions . The strains I had, were not a very good ones, as far as I was concerned, a basic first strain offered to the retail public market years ago, fruit is fairly small on both strains of Lycium barbarum. After fruit appeared on my plants, right off I noticed that the fruits were much smaller then what I saw in pictures. A couple years or so ago, noticed that some online vendors were now selling the more commercial developed much larger fruiting strains from Asia. The Wolfberry fruits were not very tasty, somewhat bitter; the Goji berry fruits were nice, pleasant, somewhat sweet and tasty. If you read my posts on Cloudforest Cafe, you may of seen, that there was a definite difference between Goji berry and Wolf berry plants, though more recently, I have noticed a blending of the two strains online, as far as adversing and data. I found both very invasive from the roots, sending up sucker plants all along their root systems, on second season roots. My backyard quickly became a mess, one large stickery thicket, that I eventually cut down and used Roundup to kill out; to take my backyard back. The Goji that was a upright growing plant, was the most invasive and grew to a hight of around 8 feet tall. The Wolfberry plants, grew more like grape vines, and were covered with very nasty 1 inch long very sharp thorns every 1 to 2 inches along the canes. the Goji berry plants were not so bad in this area, they had scattered sharp twigs, more like on a Pomegranate tree. Invasiveness, I guess compare them to cane berries, but on steroids, especially the Goji berry plants, if the conditions are right, they had plenty of damp sandy loam soil available. Maybe they like sandy soils much better, could be one reason they did not fruit so well for me, just a tough. A local CRFG had some Goji plants, his has spread some by roots, but not like mine did, he has very sandy soil, and surface and subsurface moisture of the soil is drastically much lower then mine, except at time of watering; his plants were not as aggressive, and accordingly not as invasive, compared to mine. Also, when birds eat the berries and they will, they spread the plant around as well, if they find damp ground to spout and grow in when first starting out, they will start new plants. So now I have to wonder, where have the birds possibly taken them to in my local area. Neither were very productive for me, here in the Central Valley, at my place, I think the summers were too hot, for thier liking or something, or maybe my heavier soils, not sure. Both grow normally in higher elevations, in old glacial valleys, normally lighter and looser soils, which maybe cooler, and most likely have soils of much higher mineral nutrient content. I did notice a problem with mildew, especially on the Wolfberry plants. David Johnson San Joaquin Valley Chapter, CRFG ------------------------------------------------ Subject: My garden update-In Coastal San Diego From: Cielo Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 07:16:18 -0700 (PDT) Hi Leo, It's been a while since I wrote. Since I'm taking a sabbatical from the nutty fruit club this year, I've realized that I could have used all that time to myself and my garden. A lot of our fruit trees are flowering/fruiting for the first time this year, and some fruiting more this year. First time flowering/fruiting: concord grapes, muscadine, Barbados cherry, pitomba, lychees and longans. Whether or not the fruits will hold, these mango trees have fruits: neelum, Julie, turpentine (bought from you), oro and valencia pride. Fruiting avocados: Reed, Hass, Stewart and JB; the others queen and kona sharweil are doing nicely. Last year, our jaboticaba had 2 fruits; this year had about a dozen! The jambolan (duhat) had 2 fruits last year. The pink wax jambu has a couple dozens of fruits this year. This year, we built a large chicken coop for our 3 hens we've raised since 2 weeks old. They're about 8 months old now, and we get 3 brown eggs/day from them. We usually don't have extras because they're either eaten fresh or gifted to neighbors and friends. We let them free range when we can supervise them, but not on their own because of neighborhood cats. I compost their manure. It's funny that I can't find enough weeds in the garden to satisfy their appetite for them. We pick weeds for them on our way back from walking our dog in the neighborhood. People thank us, and say "Hey, we have more in the back yard you can have!" This is it for now. I hope to write more often, but something always comes up:-) Cielo Coastal San Diego mailto:cielo_g@yahoo.com <><><><> Announcements And Web Pages To Consider <><><><> San Diego Chapter California Rare Fruit Growers Meeting: Where: Casa del Prado Building Room 101, Balboa Park When: Fourth Wednesday Of Each Month (Except December) See: http://www.crfgsandiego.org http://nc.crfgsandiego.org For North County CRFG Chapter Meeting http://www.crfg.org/chapters.html For information about ALL CRFG chapters. <><><> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HawaiiFruitlovers/ <><><> [HawaiiFruitlovers] HawaiiFruitlovers@yahoogroups.com To: HawaiiFruitlovers@yahoogroups.com> None this time <><><><><><><><><> End of RFN201107A.txt <><><><><><><><><><> Rare Fruit News Online - July 15, 2010 - AKA RFN20107B.txt __________________________________________________________ <><><><> Notes In Passing - Leo <><><><> Suddenly it's summer in San Diego! Our chilly early July with temperatures seldom much above 70 are today near 90 degrees F.I wish I had done more outside when it was cooler.... On the fourth of July, we had a large owl in the yard. The sky was overcast, and the owl was first visible in our macadamia tree, and as it grew darker, it flew down to sit on a bamboo support in my pitayas. I got some good pictures to prove it.... I have occasionally heard in the dark in the past, but this is the first time I've seen one. It looked like a great horned owl, from pictures. It hasn't been seen since.... Tell us what's happening with you and your efforts with rare fruit, new varieties you've tried or know about, questions you have. Thanks for your support! <><><><><><><><><> Table Of Contents <><><><><><><><><> -> -> -> Messages follow the Table Of Contents <- <- <- <><><> New Subscribers <><><> New Subscriber-Was in Hawaii-Now Escondido Kahualani Aitken <><><> Readers Write <><><> Mango Anthracnose And Wampi Oscar Jaitt Can I Grow Mamones? (Melicoccus bijugatus) Kendall Wampee In San Diego Botanical Gardens Ben Pierce Wampee Great In Florida ­ Maybe In California? Ollie Patterson My New Wampi From Exotica Kris Haghi Macadamia nut trees KATHY DIEWALD To: jim@qualspec.net Fig Festival 7/24/10 Vista, CA dracademia@aol.com North County San Diego Chapter Newsletter Harry Nickerson Re: Macadamia nut trees KATHY DIEWALD To: JIM WAGNER Re: Macadamia nut trees JIM WAGNER To: PETER DIEWALD [Fwd: Vermicomposting Workshop - Sat Jul 31] Alice Snow Vermicomposting Workshop - We've got Worms! William Homyak -> -> -> -> -> -> Messages <- <- <- <- <- <- <><><><><><><><> New Subscribers <><><><><><><><><> Subject: New Subscriber-Was in Hawaii-Now Escondido From: Kahualani Aitken Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:14:22 -0700 (PDT) Hi, My name is Kahualani Aitken and I currently live in Escondido but was born and raised in Hawaii. Currently I am growing several kinds of guava, an almond, passion fruit, strawberry tree, mulberry, a couple of citrus that aren't doing well. I'd like to grow stone fruits, dragon fruit, more citrus, jujube. I'm interested in meeting and talking with other people about what has worked for them and their favorite fruits and curious about growing conditions here. Thank you for your time, Kahualani Aitken mailto:noekolo@yahoo.com <><><><><><><><><> Readers Write<><><><><><><><><><> Subject: Mango Anthracnose And Wampi From: Oscar Jaitt Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 19:57:21 -1000 Hi Leo, the best way to deal with anthracnose on mangos is to plant an anthracnose resistant variety of mango: ones like Fairchild, Brook's Late, Rapoza, Florigon, Julie, Keitt. Even more resistant to anthracnose are the upland cousins of mango: Kuini (Mangifera odorata) and Kasturi (Mangifera kasturi). These two cousins of the mango are also more cold tolerant than mangos. But if you already have a planted mango the way to stop anthracnose, or at least reduce it is to spray the tree every two weeks when the flower start appearing until fruits are about the size of a marble. Organic spray: usually copper sulfate Chemical: there are a bunch of fungucides that will work, but i've never used any of them. We deal a lot with anthracnose here on East Hawaii because we live in a rainforest and winters, the time mangos flower, are usualy the rainiest time of all. It is the rain during flowering and fruiting which promotes the fungus anthracnose. If you can keep the flowers dry by placing a plastic tent over your tree that will also keep anthracnose down. If your tree is potted you could also bring it indoors during rainy spells. About wampi: Here is another photo of the wampi. It grows quite well in Hawaii. Never heard of anyone fruiting it in California. It is indeed a very tasty fruit, kind of tasting like a cross between a grape and a tangerine . Fruits grow in big cluster like grapes. http://www.fruitlovers.com/Gallery1/WampiFruits.jpg Oscar mailto:fruitlovers@hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Can I Grow Mamones? (Melicoccus bijugatus) From: Kendall Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 13:30:37 +0000 Hey, I recently returned from Nicaragua, and I would like any information on growing mamones. Kendall mailto:kendall.1smart1@gmail.com [The mamoncillo, also known as the quenepa or genip, is a fruit-bearing tree of the species Melicoccus bijugatus. The mamoncillo is indigenous to a wide swath of the Americas including Central America, Colombia and the Caribbean. This large tropical tree can grow up to 100 feet (30 meters) high. It is grown and cultivated for its ovoid, green fruit, which grow in bunches. The fruit ripen during the summer. The fruit is classified as a drupe. A mamoncillo fruit has a tight and thin but rigid layer of skin, traditionally cracked by the teeth. Below that is the tart, tangy yellow pulp of the fruit. Each mamoncillo fruit has a large pit inside, the same ovoid shape as the fruit itself. Mamoncillo pits can be roasted and eaten just like sunflower seeds. The mamoncillo has small, greenish-white, fragrant flowers in panicles. They begin to blossom from the branch tips when the rainy season begins. The mamoncillo is an example of a polygamous plant -- producing both bisexual flowers and flowers that are exclusively male or exclusively female. Occasionally, a bisexual flower will have a "dud" anther that is sterile -- an evolutionary guard against that will prevent developing too many fruits too often, unless cross-pollination occurs. This tree is popularly planted along roadsides as an ornamental. Being tropical, the mamoncillo prefers warmer temperatures. Its leaves can be damaged once the temperature hits freezing point, with serious damage occurring at 25 F (-6 C). Gardeners of mamoncillos should occasionally give their plants heavy watering during the summer and propagate via seeds (although grafting can be used for established plants). http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/271311 ] ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Wampee In San Diego Botanical Gardens From: Ben Pierce Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 07:51:19 -0700 Hi Leo, I believe there is a healthy wampee growing at San Diego Botanical Gardens. I have never seen fruit on it though. However, they don't do a real good job over there with watering or fertilization of the trees. Ben Pierce mailto:mariposafamily@gmail.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Wampee Great In Florida ­ Maybe In California? From: Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 15:05:26 -0400 Hi, I don't know how well it would grow in California, but I've been growing wampee here in central Florida for ten years or so. I just ate some of the fruit from it today, in fact. It hasn't grown very big, but it's fruited every year, never had a problem with cold weather, diseases, or insects, and looks attractive. There's not a lot of flesh in the fruit, but the flavor is refreshing and very pleasant. I think it's rather underrated. Ollie mailto:ollie_patterson@embarqmail.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: My New Wampi From Exotica From: kris haghi Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 19:12:33 -0500 Hi, I just planted a 5 gallon wampi which I purchased from Exotica in Vista. Steve said wampi will grow and fruit in Fallbrook. He said it tastes a little like grapefruit. I read there are two types, one tastes like grapefruit and one is sweeter. Kris mailto:khaghi@hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Macadamia nut trees From: PETER DIEWALD Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 00:45:44 -0700 (PDT) To: jim@qualspec.net Hi Jim, We put in a fifteen gallon Beaumont Macadamia nut tree in our front yard in 1986. At that time we purchased it from Nurseryland, which is now Armstrong Nursery. It towers over our house and produces so many nuts, although, unfortunately, all of them are lost to the squirrels and rats that populate the coastal area from the Banning Ranch to Newport Coast. The little critters bury the nuts in my yard, so consequently, I have seedling macadamia nut trees galore. I would be glad to offer some to you and later furnish you with the Beaumont scionwood for grafting. I have been pulling them up as weeds! Cooper's Macadamia Nut Farm use to be in Fallbrook, there was also a Gold Coast Macadamia Nut Assoc. in Fallbrook. I was advised to plant the seedling in the ground, not in a pot, before doing any grafting. I think it is less shocking to the tree to have the roots well established where it is to remain. It is easier to start with a fifteen gallon sized specimen, although I have not seen one at Home Depot or Lowes. I bet Armstrong can order them if they do not stock them. I've been a member of the Orange County Chapter of California Rare Fruit Growers since 1988. They have a booth at the Orange County Fair in the farm area. It is a great place to see all the fruits up close and personal. My interest in rare fruits started with a visit to the OC Fair. We now grow over seventy two fruit bearing plants! Dana Point is a great place to grow sub tropical fruits! Good Luck, Kathy Diewald. mailto:mccwald@sbcglobal.net PS: Try Laguna Hills Nursery, which is not far from Dana Point. ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Fig Festival 7/24/10 Vista, CA From: dracademia@aol.com Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 15:40:59 -0400 Hi Leo, There is a Fabulous Fig Festival on 7/24/10 Sat at Barry Koral's Tropical Fruit Farm, 2344 Warmlands Ave, Vista, Ca 92084, cost is $20, pre pay on line and $25 at the door. To register go to www.drtlectures.com. Click on events tab or call Caroline Andews at 760-419-1224. Hermie mailto:dracademia@aol.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: North County San Diego Chapter Newsletter From: Harry Nickerson Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 20:46:06 -0700 The Newsletter of the North County San Diego Chapter Of California Rare Fruit Growers July Meeting: This is our annual Pot Luck Picnic and Plant Sale. We will meet at 11 AM July 17th, In San Diego Botanical Gardens (formerly Quail), on the Paul Ecke Bldg. patio. Plan to arrive about 11 am which will give you time to view and purchase plants prior to lunch being served. Please bring a dish to share and a plant or two to sell. Lunch will be served at Noon. If you don't want to price your plants, we can do this for you. PLEASE label your plants. Please bring your plant donations by 11 AM so that there will be time to sell them. Members who grafted apple / prunus rootstock for the NC chapter please bring them to the plant sale. Aug. Meeting: There will be no NC Chapter meeting in August because of the Festival of Fruit. This year the Los Angeles Chapter is hosting the festival at Cal Poly Pomona. The dates are Aug.12th-15th. Registration forms and programs are in the July-August issue of the Fruit Gardener. You can also get program info at or call (805) 584- 6244. There is a site given for online registration http://crfg-lao.dot5hosting.com/store/index.html if you have trouble typing it in a Google search will list it. Please send your 2010 membership dues to Dottie Logan 702 Berkeley Way, Vista, CA 92084. Phone # 760 806 6678 Meetings are usually held the 3rd Friday, 7 PM at Mira Costa College (MCC) One Bernard Dr., Oceanside in Room 7003 of the Horticultural Bldg. July 17 11AM San Diego Botanical Gardens Annual Potluck Picnic & Plant Sale August no chapter meeting enjoy the CRFG Festival of Fruit in Pomona Aug. 12-15 Officers and Contact information Ben Pierce Chair 760-744-4716 mailto:ncsdcrfg@cox.net Art Logan co-Treasurer 760-806-6678 mailto:artlogan@aol.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Re: Macadamia nut trees From: PETER DIEWALD Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 21:26:15 -0700 (PDT) To: JIM WAGNER Hi Jim, Peter digs the holes and helps water, but other than his enjoyment in watching things grow, he pretty much leaves the gardening to me. I do know that mango trees are easily grown from seed, but are subject to fungal diseases, so I will not attempt to grow them as we do not want to spray anything with any type of pesticide or fungicide. Sunset Magazine has an interesting article on growing mangoes, including photos of homegrown local mango trees. One was in Santa Monica, as I recall. Sunset will, at no charge, send you a copy of any articles from the past on any subject. You may contact them on their website, probably Sunset.com or something close to it. When I really am in the mood to eat mangoes, I head for the Asian Markets in Little Saigon, where they are extremely good and very inexpensive! By the way, try Green Thumb Nursery off the 5 freeway at El Toro Road. It is just North of that off ramp on the first street to the Left as I recall. Good Luck with the quest! Kathy Diewald mailto:mccwald@sbcglobal.net ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Re: macadamia nut trees From: JIM WAGNER To: PETER DIEWALD Date: Tue, July 6, 2010 9:28:13 AM Hey Peter, Thanks for the info,... yes I too have been bit by the sub-tropical fruit tree bug!!! I pretty much have everything imaginable and I have bought many that didn't make it or have not produced! Have you had any luck with Mangos? The Plant grows well but I don't think they like the Coastal air for fruit production,... The Macadamia Nut would be the first Nut Tree that I would have,... I have gone to Laguna Hills nursery, but lately they have been in the rebuild mode,... I will try some of the others that you recommended! Cheers, Jim Wagner mailto:jim@qualspec.net [Readers, will you make recommendations for mango trees in coastal California? Maybe EarlyGold, Valencia Pride, VillaSenor, ...? -Leo] ------------------------------------------------ Subject: [Fwd: Vermicomposting Workshop - Sat Jul 31] From: Alice Snow Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 10:02:09 -0700 Hi Leo Thought you might like to see this. It might be something for your RFNO too. I was thinking I might do a short piece on collecting rain water for RFNO. Would that be okey? Hope to see you sometime soon. Dick and Alice Snow mailto:glorialice@cox.net ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Vermicomposting Workshop - We've got Worms! From: William Homyak Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 09:43:47 -0700 To: William Homyak On Saturday, July 31st, from 2 4 pm at the South Bay Botanic Garden, a workshop covering the sustainable practice of Vermiculture and Vermicomposting will be held. Vermiculture is the care and raising of earthworms while Vermicomposting is using those worms to recycle garden and kitchen waste and to improve your soil. The end result is a wonder amendment you can add to your garden that not only contains vital plant nutrients but can also improve the structure of your soil. And, let's face it, San Diego soils can be really bad! You must register in advance and so, to register and to see more details, please download the attached pdf flyer for the event. Bill Homyak, Professor mailto:whomyak@swccd.edu Landscape and Nursery Technology Southwestern College 900 Otay Lakes Road Chula Vista, CA 91910 619-421-6700 ext. 5371 http://www.lntswc.com <><><><> Announcements And Web Pages To Consider <><><><> San Diego Chapter California Rare Fruit Growers Meeting: Where: Casa del Prado Building Room 101, Balboa Park When: Fourth Wednesday Of Each Month (Except December) See: http://www.crfgsandiego.org http://nc.crfgsandiego.org For North County CRFG Chapter Meeting http://www.crfg.org/chapters.html For information about ALL CRFG chapters. <> Agricultural Research Service (ARS) ars>news@arsgrin.gov <> http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/thelatest.htm. None this time <><><><><><><><><> End of RFN201007B.txt <><><><><><><><><><> Rare Fruit News Online - August 1, 2010 - AKA RFN201008A.txt ____________________________________________________________ <><><><> Notes In Passing - Leo <><><><> Has your summer been as cool as ours in Southern California? Most days have been in the low 70s F. Many grafts I've placed have sat waiting for more heat. Also, sub-tropical fruit seems to be less plentiful in my yard, (lychee, guava, longan) but apples are doing very well. Anna apple is doing very well with large, red and juicy fruit! How are your fruit doing this year? Any new varieties you've tried or heard about? I haven't seen any Monarch butterflies for some time, but there were a couple of caterpillars that somehow got transported here. There's one chrysalis but no visible caterpillars around now. Have you seen any butterflies? Surely there will be lots more later.... See you at the Pitaya Festival / CRFG Festival Of Fruit in a couple of weeks? <><><><><><><><><> Table Of Contents <><><><><><><><><> -> -> -> Messages follow the Table Of Contents <- <- <- <><><> New Subscribers <><><> New Subscriber, Phoenix, to grow fig, jujube, mango... David Rodriguez New Subscriber, Wants Low-Chill Temperate Fruit Info. Masroor Siddiqi Re-Subscribe, Escondido, Restarting After Fires.... Cat Melvin <><><> Readers Write <><><> Control of Squirrels In Macadamia Nut Trees! Ollie Patterson Taihiti Squash W Chow 3.5 Acre Farm in Dominican Republic for sale Dada Vidyananda 2010 Pitahaya Fruit Festival & CRFG Festival of Fruit "CE San Diego" Alternative Names For Pitayas From Florida Sven Merten California Agriculture Online Subscription Info. Leo Manuel http://californiaagriculture.ucanr.org/subscribe.cfm Exotica Nursery Plant Sale 7/30 to 8/1 Leo Manuel Parafilm 1" About $6 for pkg of 6, 30 yds ea. Leo Manuel re: Monarchs Leo Manuel To: Alice Snow -> -> -> -> -> -> Messages <- <- <- <- <- <- <><><><><><><><> New Subscribers <><><><><><><><><> Subject: New Subscriber, Phoenix, to grow fig, jujube, mango... From: David Rodriguez Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:30:19 -0700 Hello my name is David Rodriguez. I live in Phoenix and I plan to grow fig, jujube, mango, and more. I'm interested in any advice I might gain from any experienced growers. Thanks, David mailto:rodrageous@gmail.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: New Subscriber, Wants Low-Chill Temperate Fruit Info. From: Masroor Siddiqi Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:44:26 -0700 Hi, I am Masroor Siddiqi, living in Karachi Pakistan Fruit trees you are now growing. It is easy for me to grow Mango, Guava,custard apple etc. But I want to find and grow cold climate fruits which have been modified to grow in warm climate very low (almost nill) chill factor Thanks Masroor Siddiqi mailto:masroor.siddiqi@gmail.com Karachi Pakistan ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Re-Subscribe, Escondido, Restarting After Fires.... From: Cat Melvin Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 00:26:41 -0700 Hi, Leo- I'm Cat Melvin. I used to be a subscriber several years back but haven't been for a while. We've been in Austin for the past 5 yrs. and just moved back to our land--3 acres--here in NE Escondido, out by Lake Wohlford, almost to Valley Center (92027). We're in a high valley at ~2000 ft so we get 400+ chill hrs. usually. The only fruit trees we had left after the 2003 wildfires were 3 pomegranates I started from cuttings I got at a CRFG meeting several years ago. They've been surviving with NO water or attention for 7 years! An old walnut and a young one are coming back from the roots, so we're thinking they'd be a good base for grafting onto. We'd like to grow a few each of all the common fruits (staggered seasons) as well as some of the uncommon--they just need to be tasty, easy to grow in our area, not too thirsty, and not fussy. We want tough, independent plants that can take some benign neglect while we catch up on all the things we need to do here. We're organic growers, and would like to build a beautiful, productive homestead. We plan to raise Black Copper Maran chickens, earthworms, tilapia, and rabbits in addition to our vegetable garden and fruit trees. If anyone has suggestions for varieties they think would do well here, that are very tasty AND not too picky, we'd love to hear them. Also, if anyone is good at grafting walnuts (T-buds?) and would like to demonstrate, they'd be welcome! Cat Melvin mailto:catinescondido@gmail.com <><><><><><><><><> Readers Write<><><><><><><><><><> Subject: Control of Squirrels In Macadamia Nut Trees! From: Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:10:58 -0400 Hi, Squirrels are once again decimating my macadamia nut crop (which is sizeable this year) here in central Florida. I only have one tree (the other one just died due to phytophthora, I suspect), but it's quite large. I put an electric fence around it this time, which worked for a while, but the other day I watched as one ran up to the fence, studied it, and then jumped safely between two wires. Hmm. Maybe a small chain link fence topped with an electrified wire would work. . . . I should try it. If anyone has any other ideas to try, please let me know. I've declared war on these thieves and don't intend to surrender anytime soon. Ollie mailto:ollie_patterson@embarqmail.com [When I had to get down and dirty with rats eating my macadamia nuts, I found that All Weather Bars by Real-Kill was the most effective rat killer for me.... -Leo] ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Taihiti Squash From: W Chow Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Hi Leo, Good to see you yesterday! Jim repeatedly mention how well you can grow mango trees. He thinks you are the best resource in San Diego. My Tahiti squash is growing wild in my front yard and at the PBCG. Right now the squashes are still green. They are over 5 pound size. If you want any green squash, you are welcomed to take one or two. I will let you know if the squash turn yellow and golden. The mango tree that you gave me is doing well in a 15 gallon pot. Actually it has several small mangoes hanging at the tip of the branch. I have one mango tree in the ground. It is a seedling from CRFG raffle table. It is doing well also. People have said my tree is the only mango tree growing on Mango Drive. Cheers ! William ------------------------------------------------ Subject: 3.5 Acre Farm in Dominican Republic for sale From: Dada Vidyananda Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:02:55 -0300 Dear Leo, OPPORTUNITY!! 3.5 acre organic Rarefruit Farm in the Dominican Republic FOR SALE. A large variety of good Mango varieties from all over the world, Annonas, Guavas, Citrus and Coconut trees. The farm is located near the southern coast of the Dominican Republic about 1 hour west from the capital Santo Domingo. For more information please contact Dada at: mailto:dada.vidyananda@gmail.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: 2010 Pitahaya Fruit Festival & CRFG Festival of Fruit From: "CE San Diego" Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:40:05 -0700 2010 Pitahaya/Dragon Fruit Festival and 2010 CRFG Festival of Fruit This year, the Pitahaya Festival is being held in conjunction with the CRFG (California Rare Fruit Growers) Festival of Fruit. The main event will take place on Saturday - August 14, 2010 at Cal Poly Pomona Bronco Student Center at 3801 W. Temple Ave. Pomona CA 91768. Registration begins at 8 am. The main event will be from 9am-5pm and includes 24 speakers addressing many fruit related subjects. Speakers include local farm advisors, editors and freelance garden writers who contribute to national and local newspapers and magazines. Speakers talking about pitahayas are Ramiro Lobo, UCCE Farm Advisor, Marita Cantwell, UCCE Specialist and Grey Martin. Other speakers will cover different fruit related subjects. Registration Fee: The registration fee is $35. Lunch and dinner for the day of the event can also be purchased along with registration for $10 and $20 respectively. A variety of fruits will be available for tasting during the lunch hour. Tours and field visits: Paid festival attendees are welcome to participate in any of the tours/field visits to the sites listed below, on the dates and times specified on the program: Thursday August 12, 2010 Pitahaya Research Trials at SCREC (7601 Irvine Blvd, Irvine, ƒ Don Winterstein's home (1594 N. Dorothy Drive; Brea, ƒ Ed and Pat Valdivia's home (1091 Carmel Drive, Simi Valley, Friday August 13, 2010 ƒ Melissa's Specialty Produce (5325 S. Soto Street; Vernon ƒ Huntington Library/Gardens (1151 Oxford Road, San Marino, ƒ Cal Poly Pomona John T. Lyle Center for Regen Studies ƒ Cal Poly Pomona’Äôs Pitahaya/Dragon Fruit Planting Sunday August 15, 2010 ƒ Elk Creek Ranch (3294 Yucca Terrace, Fallbrook, CA 92028) ƒ The Fullerton Arboretum (1900 Associated Road; Fullerton, For more information about the program, tours, speakers and registration please check out the festival website at:http://www.festivaloffruit.org Ramiro Lobo mailto:relobo@ucdavis.edu Farm Advisor Small Farms University of Calif Coop Extension 151 E. Carmel Street San Marcos, CA 92078 (760) 752-4716 [I plan to be there at least Thursday and Friday. I'll bring Paul Thomson's pitahaya book ($20) Should be great! -Leo] ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Alternative Names For Pitayas From Florida From: Sven Merten Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 09:59:46 -0700 Hi All, Some years ago I took a number of pitaya varieties to Florida and gave them to several people there. Unfortunately many of them had not been named and only had numbers such as most of Paul's varieties. I realized recently that they were subsequently given names and some are now being sold in nurseries as well under these new names. So I contacted some of the people I gave varieties to and the following is a list of what some of the varieties were named. I thought you all might want to know since some of you may have duplicates in your collections. 1S = Physical Graffiti 2S = Cosmic Charlie 5S = Purple Haze 9S = Dark Star Quang Ong Self Fertile = American Beauty Ben Poier H. poly. = Bloody Mary I did take other varieties, but these are the ones I know for sure were renamed. Best regards, Sven Merten [Only American Beauty is likely to be reliably self-fertile. -Leo] ------------------------------------------------ Subject: California Agriculture Online Subscription Info. From: Leo Manuel Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 20:37:43 -0700 http://californiaagriculture.ucanr.org/subscribe.cfm The useful magazine is free for US residents. If you live within the United States, please submit the form, at right, to begin your free subscription. Enter your address and e-mail address in the fields provided. ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Exotica Nursery Plant Sale 7/30 to 8/1 From: Leo Manuel Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:34:03 -0700 Exotica Nursery is having a plant sale from 7/30 to 8/1 1 gallon to 24 inch box size, including the following: cherimoya, surinam cherry, bananas, date palms, jelly palms, papayas, macadamias, guavas, pomegranates, figs, jack fruit, passion fruit, kumquat, and more. 2508 E. Vista Way, Vista, CA 92084 (760) 724-9093 ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Parafilm 1" About $6 for pkg of 6, 30 yds ea. From: Leo Manuel Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:17:16 -0700 I ordered parafilm that was 1 inch wide for less that $1 per 30 yard roll. It comes six rolls per package, and I got six packages for less than $6 each, including postage and tax. The wider tape is easier to use, I believe. https://www.oescoinc.com/parafilm-nursery-grafting-tape will lead to the OESCO site. I'll sell you a roll for $1 to try if interested, but only at my home. I like this width much better than the 1/2 inch I had used before. It may also be heavier gauge. Leo ------------------------------------------------ Subject: re: Monarchs From: Leo Manuel Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:00:22 -0700 To: Alice Snow Hi Alice and Dick I've not seen a Monarch butterfly for several weeks, but at least one must have visited our plants, as I've also found two or three tiny caterpillars. One matured enough to form a chrysalis, but it seems smaller than those of last year. Now I can't find any caterpillars, but I'm watching the chrysalis for when it shows that the butterfly is about to emerge. If you get many caterpillars while I am without, I'll sneak in and steal a few one day! I wonder if it's the cooler summer that has made them slow to arrive this summer? Thanks for writing. Yours, Leo rhsnowsr wrote: > Leo > > This morning when I checked the milkweed that I grew from the > seeds that you gave me I found three 1 1/2" long Monarch > butterfly caterpillars and two shorter ones. They are all > looking good, but I'm sure they will all take off soon to form > their chrysalis. > > We have several Monarch butterflies in our area, so maybe they > are coming back. Let us hope so. > > Thank you once again for the seeds and the plants. > > Alice Snow mailto:rhsnowsr@cox.net <><><><> Announcements And Web Pages To Consider <><><><> San Diego Chapter California Rare Fruit Growers Meeting: Where: Casa del Prado Building Room 101, Balboa Park When: Fourth Wednesday Of Each Month (Except December) See: http://www.crfgsandiego.org http://nc.crfgsandiego.org For North County CRFG Chapter Meeting http://www.crfg.org/chapters.html For information about ALL CRFG chapters. <> Agricultural Research Service (ARS) ars>news@arsgrin.gov <> http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/thelatest.htm. None this time <><><><><><><><><> End of RFN201008A.txt <><><><><><><><><><> Rare Fruit News Online - August 15 2010 - AKA RFN201008B.txt ____________________________________________________________ <><><><> Notes In Passing - Leo <><><><> I just returned from the CRFG's Festival of Fruit in Pomona and enjoyed the speakers and also meeting several of you, some for the first time, such as Oscar Jaitt. On returning home yesterday afternoon, I spotted a Monarch butterfly laying eggs. I've only seen two previously this summer, but Minna Riber says they don't arrive in force until later in August and September. Please keep us informed about what has interested you recently. Did you learn something at the CRFG Festival of Fruit that you want to pass along? <><><><><><><><><> Table Of Contents <><><><><><><><><> -> -> -> Messages follow the Table Of Contents <- <- <- <><><> New Subscribers <><><> New Subscriber­Kensington in San Diego KEVIN CRIKELAIR <><><> Readers Write <><><> Butterflies Minna Riber Cutting flower back after pollination Michael Beshoner, MD Longan, Cherimoya, Lychees In Melbourne, Australia? Ranjit Wimalaratne Light Brown Apple Moth Quarantine (San Diego County) CE San Diego Mature mango tree on street near Leo's Home Aaron St.John Potting medium that starts life as a pine tree Leo Manuel Dragon Fruit Concentrate-Available In San Diego County? Kim Simsby I Buy or Sell Rare Fruit In Southern California Anshu Cherimoya Questions Sherry Smith Re: Cherimoya Leo Manuel To: Sherry Smith My Pitaya Grafts Sherry Smith Split Mango Fruit - Why? Narcisa Marquez Legal To Re-Name Cultivars Without Permission? Dr Won Choi Mango Questions: Edwards, Carrie, Kent For La Jolla? Simon Chan re: Mango Questions Leo Manuel To: Simon Chan -> -> -> -> -> -> Messages <- <- <- <- <- <- <><><><><><><><> New Subscribers <><><><><><><><><> Subject: New Subscriber­Kensington in San Diego From: Kevin Crikelair Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 15:23:03 -0700 (PDT) I would like to join your bimonthly mailing please. I am Kevin Crikelair, Living in Kensington, San Diego Growing now: limes, 6 types of oranges: cara-cara, moro blood, golden nugget, lane late, page; carambola, passionfruit,3 types of asian pears: shinseki, choguro, hosui; 20th century and hood pears, 4 types of blueberry, Haas avo, Spice zee nectaplum, cotton candy aprium, 4 in 1 plum, weeping santa rosa plum, cocktail grapefruit, coffee and Mex pear Guava, dorsett golden and fuji apple, algerian tangerine. Would love to grow mangoes but have heard it isn't possible from a few folks in the CRFG assoc. yet I just saw a tree at the Quail botanical center in Encinitas that is producing quite well.????? I understand you recently put on a talk about mangoes but I found out a few days late. Any advice to what types to grow? Thanks [Kevin, you are welcome to visit me at our San Diego home to see how my several mango trees are producing well again this year. -Leo] <><><><><><><><><> Readers Write<><><><><><><><><><> Subject: Butterflies From: "Minna Riber" Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 13:50:11 -0700 Hi Leo, I haven't seen Monarchs yet but we have had a plethora of Sulphur Butterflies. We are growing Humboldt Lilly this year and a red sage which they seem to enjoy. Our influx of Monarchs is usually end of August and September. I've lost one Mango due to encroachment of Mike's Iris. Our Gold Nugget Mandarin has been delivering delicious fruit since May and is still holding it's fruit in good condition. I am sure things will change once we start to warm up. Still want to visit your garden but currently am elevating a broken toe. Fondly, Minna mailto:minna@earthlink.net ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Cutting flower back after pollination From: "Michael Beshoner, MD" Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2010 11:42:38 -1000 Leo, given that in Captain Cook for the last one month after a long drought and now experiencing almost daily night time but not long rain showers AND AFTER noting that multiple flowers on my Sin Espinas failed to stick after being "self "pollinated by hand .....Brad of south Kona suggested to me that after pollination in 2-5 days that it might be productive to cut the flower back, in half or two thirds to decrease the wet and rot potential and thus get more fruit. SO the question is: Theoretically how long does it take for pollination to happen and at what point in time and how much of the bloom is it safe to cut the wet soft deteriorating distal portion off? Without rain it otherwise seems to dry up quickly. I have never heard this discussed or mentioned. Brad does not do this for Frankie reds or Yellow Dragons but only for the pinks for which he has noted a rot factor here in Captain Cook. And he only does it some of the time. I have had 100% fruit set with my Frankie Reds so far. For the Sin Espinas I did it today after 2-3 days post flowering but frankly I think it is probably better to leave it alone and just try to cross pollinate when possible. What do you think? Michael, mailto:lohi@hawaii.rr.com Captain Cook, HI [Michael, I am experiencing fruit rot on several varieties of pitaya fruit. Is this condition what the blossom cutting will possibly remedy? I wish I had met Brad at the festival to hear any comments he had on this. We've had a cool and damp summer and the blossoms undoubtedly have been slow to dry. -Leo] ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Longan, Cherimoya, Lychees In Melbourne, Australia? From: Ranjit Wimalaratne Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 10:28:55 +1000 Dear Leo, I was living in Austria and now have moved to Melbourne Australia. I have a small back garden in which I would like to grow few non-native fruit trees. I see Pomergranate, Citrus, Indian/Chiliean Guava and Olive trees growing well in the neighborhood. I want to know if there are any varieties of Longon, Cherimoya, and Lychees could be grow here. May be there are other members from this area on your site that can give me some insight into this?? Best regards. Ranjit mailto:ranjit.wimalaratne@gmail.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Light Brown Apple Moth Quarantine (San Diego County) From: "CE San Diego" Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 09:18:22 -0700 Light Brown Apple Moth August 3, 2010 Four adult Light Brown Apple Moths (LBAM), a pest that damages more than 2,000 types of plants and more than 250 types of crops, have been discovered in a trap set one mile east of San Diegos Balboa Park, County officials said Tuesday. The discovery will trigger a state interior quarantine of 1.5 miles around the site as early as next week, and a subsequent federal quarantine that could cover the rest of the county. Quarantines generally mean that plant material cannot be moved until the quarantines end. Additional traps have been placed in the nine square miles surrounding the find site, said County Agricultural Commissioner Robert Atkins, We need to determine the extent of this infestation. An informational meeting for San Diego County farmers and growers will be held at 2 p.m. Aug. 10 at the Fallbrook Community Center, located at 341 Heald Lane in Fallbrook. The California Department of Food and Agriculture (CDFA) in conjunction with United States Department of Food and Agriculture (USDA) have placed additional traps around the find site. Atkins said the public could help by not moving any plants or produce and by allowing traps to be placed on their property. Light Brown Apple Moth larvae damage fruit by feeding on them, creating brown areas on the fruits surface. Additionally, LBAM caterpillars damage plants by feeding on leaves, buds, shoots and fruit. The moth eats fruits and vegetables such as apple, blueberry, peach, pear, strawberry, grape, cabbage, corn, pepper, and tomato. It also is found on trees, including oak, willow, poplar, walnut; and ornamentals, such as rose, chrysanthemum and dahlia. The insect is native to Australia and has been found in other areas of California. When available, Information regarding quarantine boundaries will be posted on the Agriculture, Weights & Measures website. If you suspect Light Brown Apple Moth on any of your plants or trees, call the CDFA PEST HOTLINE at 1-800-491-1899 or 619-698-1046. For more information on LBAM, visit the CDFA website. To volunteer your location for our trapping program, call 1-800-300-8727 (TRAP). Office of Farm & Home Advisor mailto:cesandiego@ucdavis.edu ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Mature mango tree on street near Leo's Home From: Aaron St.John Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 17:20:53 +0000 Hi Leo -- Haven't forgotten, just make a point of not jumping to e mail often, or I never get anything done. Anyway, the mature Mango tree that might interest you and Jim is at the Southeast corner of Cuca and Carmel Mountain RD. Technically, I guess it's on the corner of Carmel Mtn and Caminata De Luz, as the street changes name at the intersection. Thomas Bros. map page 1189. The tree is by the front door of a one story townhouse. This location is between Armstrong Nursery and the Doubletree Resort. (In Rancho Penasquitos) Hope your search is "fruitful." Best Aaron mailto:astjohn@hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Potting Medium That Starts Life As A Pine Tree From: Leo Manuel Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 09:26:10 -0700 ARS News Service USDA Agricultural Research Service Aug 6, 2010 Potting medium that starts life as a pine tree: A new type of sustainable and environmentally friendly potting medium made from thinned pine trees has been created by ARS scientists and their university cooperators. (8/5/) http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/2010/100805.htm Newslink is the weekly e-mail pointer for web links to stories issued each workday by the Agricultural Research Service, U.S. Department of Agriculture. ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Dragon Fruit Concentrate-Available In San Diego County? From: "Kim Simsby" Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 03:29:30 -0700 Can you tell me where in San Diego County I can buy Dragon Fruit concentrate? Thanks! Best Regards, Kim Simsby mailto:kimsimsby@gmail.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: I Buy or Sell Rare Fruit In Southern California From: Anshu Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:54:29 -0700 Any one has Red and White Pitayas for sale in Southern California? I will pay CASH and will pick it up. I am also interested in locally grown rare fruits, Cherimoyas, Custard Apples, Jambu, Red Wax Jambu, Lychee. I can supply you Organically grown Mangosteens from California. Seed will grow. 100% These are not irradiated fruits from Thailand. Thanks Anshu mailto:ANSHUPATHAK@AOL.COM ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Cherimoya Questions From: Sherry Smith Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 16:38:17 -0700 (PDT) Hi Leo, Last time when I visited your house to get some grafting tape from you, I remember I saw a Cherimoya tree in your yard. How did you grow it? Did you guy a plant? grow from seed and graft a known cultivar? By the way, I think I have some yellow pitaya (Selenicereus megalanthus) flower buds on my pitaya I grew from the seeds I collected in the pitaya festival 2007 (grafted to some white undatus). The growth looks like little balls and develops very slowly, slower than the flower buds on my other pitaya plants. I give them high-P plant food more frequently this year. I do not know if that matters, but I got more flower buds this year. Sherry mailto:swsmith6@yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Re: Cherimoya From: Leo Manuel Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 17:54:05 -0700 To: Sherry Smith Hi Sherry The three 'cherimoya' trees in my yard were all grown from seed started in the early '90s at my previous home. Did you graft the S. megalanthus to H. undatus? Why? I think grafted plants may grow more slowly than others, but am not sure. Yellow pitaya seems more prone to be affected by heat, cold, than Hylocereus varieties, at least for me. they take weeks longer to mature the fruit than the Hylocereus also. You know that the fruit is covered by spines that brush off readily when the fruit is ripe (use gloves to keep your fingers unpunctured.) I'm glad you wrote. Leo ------------------------------------------------ Subject: My Pitaya Grafts From: Sherry Smith Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 10:12:11 -0700 (PDT) Leo, I grafted S. megalanthus to H. undatus because some Taiwanese forums said it would bring the seedlings to maturity faster and the fruit would be bigger. I thought I would give it a try. So far I have tried 3 grafting methods for pitaya. The first one was for the seedling to undatus. I also tried to put a young shoot (either American Beauty or B.H. Red from UC Irvine) to another white undatus. This one was just earlier this year. (The one Yi-Lu Jiang posted) Last year I also tried a grafting very similar to what Sainarong posted. My American Beauty and B.H. Red do not grow very well. Well, they grow, but do not give me fruit. I got the first flowers from them this year. I am considering pulling them out and only keep the ones I grafted (maybe until the grafted plants give me more clear results). Sherry mailto:swsmith6@yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Split Mango Fruit - Why? From: Narcisa Marquez Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 07:41:31 -0700 (PDT) Leo, One of my mangos died and I need a replacement. Don't have any fruit yet on most of them but I have one with 3 fruits but 1 has crack in the middle. What do you think is the problem why is it like this. Maybe too much water or need fertilizer. Please share me some ideas, Okay? Thanks, Narcisa mailto:marqueznarcisa@yahoo.com [Some mango varieties split more often than others. I don't know why, and don't worry about it unless many of them do it. Too much water can sometimes cause it. -Leo] ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Legal To Re-Name Cultivars Without Permission? From: Dr Won Choi Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 15:14:14 -0700 (PDT) Thank you for your very informative hard work I have Paul's 2-S and 3-S. In PitayaFruit an email from Sven Merten said that several varieties purchased from Florida were renamed, including Paul's 2-S (renamed Cosmic Charlie.) My question is; do anyone has a legal rights to "rename" anything ( including cultivars) without consent with all due respects please help me if Paul Thompson had a chance to do so before his departure to the heavenly green pasture Won I. Choi, M.D. mailto:wonchoi@sbcglobal.net Sort of a retired Psychiatrist [Anyone know? I think it would be helpful to provide buyers with the original name in descriptions of the variety. -Leo] ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Mango Questions: Edwards, Carrie, Kent For La Jolla? From: "Simon Chan" Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:18:15 -0700 Hello Leo, my name is Simon and I was wondering if you have had any luck fruiting Edwards Mangoes in San Diego? I would like to plant an Edwards Mango tree but I've read that they don't produce much fruit. Is there a mango that you recommend that produces well here in San Diego? I think I may plant a Kent, Carrie and Edwards. Thanks for your time, Simon Simon Chan mailto:SChan@SyntheticGenomics.com www.SyntheticGenomics.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: re: Mango Questions From: Leo Manuel To: "Simon Chan" Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:18:15 -0700 Hi Simon Edward's favored in Florida so I tried it. I didn't care for the taste so removed it. Same for Carrie. You're welcome to visit my fruit garden and see my mango trees that are producing well. If you are near the coast, you will want something that will produce there. We can ask the newsletter readers for a recommendation from their experience. I know Early Gold and Villa Senor are good as they have been successfully fruiting near the coast. I've heard that Valencia Pride does well there. The three you mention may not be good for you, except possibly Kent. I have removed both Carrie and Edwards after I found I didn't care for them either for taste or production. Take care, Leo [Readers: Do you have success with any particular mango varieties near the coast. I believe Simon lives in La Jolla. I'd also like to hear from anyone­especially in Southern California­with mango trees, to tell us what you like or don't like about a particular variety.-Leo] <><><><> Announcements And Web Pages To Consider <><><><> San Diego Chapter California Rare Fruit Growers Meeting: Where: Casa del Prado Building Room 101, Balboa Park When: Fourth Wednesday Of Each Month (Except December) See: http://www.crfgsandiego.org http://nc.crfgsandiego.org For North County CRFG Chapter Meeting http://www.crfg.org/chapters.html For information about ALL CRFG chapters. <> Agricultural Research Service (ARS) ars>news@arsgrin.gov <> http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/thelatest.htm. None this time <><><><><><><><><> End of RFN201008B.txt <><><><><><><><><><> Rare Fruit News Online - September 1, 2010 - AKA RFN201009A.txt _______________________________________________________________ <><><><> Notes In Passing - Leo <><><><> Brewster Lychee - bearing far fewer fruit than last year, with some fruit significantly larger. It's interesting that the number of fruit on the south side is the least with a few more on the west side, slightly more yet on the north, and the east side with the most. This distribution is typical for this tree, but last year's load had somewhat greater number on all sides. The fruit are beginning to turn red, Giant Fuyu persimmon crop is heavier than usual, probably because I've increased the watering. (Water bill for two months was $541) I need to haul mulch in (and turn the calendar 'way back to be young enough to do it.) I've reduced the volume significantly which will help in the cost. It's always possible that there is a leak, also.... Pitaya fruit have been delayed but are ripening in greater numbers now. Mango fruit is plentiful but individual trees are bearing far fewer fruit than last year. I expect that I waited too long to increase their water. Tell us how your fruit are 'behaving' for you, please. Monarch butterflies appear almost daily, and have left a crop of caterpillars numbering at least three to four dozen. Fortunately, my milkweed (Asclepias curassavica aka tropical milkweed) are numerous enough to handle the load. <><><><><><><><><> Table Of Contents <><><><><><><><><> -> -> -> Messages follow the Table Of Contents <- <- <- <><><> New Subscribers <><><> New Subscriber­Temecula San Diego County Linda Sun Kilfeather <><><> Readers Write <><><> Longan, Cherimoya, Lychees In Melbourne, Australia? Nan Sterman To: ranjit.wimalaratne@gmail.com Dragon Fruit Concentrate-Available In San Diego County? Frank RE: Mango Questions Simon Chan Notes on Julie Frink avocado talk Holzinger Creamhart avocado - Who Has It? Holzinger Information about dragon fruit needed for Research Mallawa Arachchi Nishantha Yellow dragon fruit Grower in Huntington Beach? Lorraine Zecca 'Carrie' mango in Florida Keitt mangos at Henry's Bob Holzinger Entomology Seminar - September 14, 2010 CE San Diego CRFG: subsidized rain barrels Cory Krell \(CRFG\) Mango varieties Matthew Shugart Losing a Russian plant collection! Bob Holzinger Butterflies Minna Riber -> -> -> -> -> -> Messages <- <- <- <- <- <- <><><><><><><><> New Subscribers <><><><><><><><><> Subject: New Subscriber­Temecula San Diego County From: "Linda Sun Kilfeather" Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 00:29:15 -0400 Dear Leo, Somehow I missed hearing about you until the latest Rare Fruit Growers' Festival of Fruit when I had a chance to talk with Edgar Valdivia. I have been growing Dragon Fruit for about 2 years now and would be delighted to be a part of your mailing list. My name is Linda Sun Kilfeather and my e-mail address is lindasun@alldial.net. I live in the area called "De Luz", which is unincorporated and up the hill from Temecula, about 10 miles from Fallbrook. I have been a Master Gardener for the County of Riverside since 2006 and it is my job to help people with questions, problems, etc. about plants, so I need to keep learning everything possible. My name has been Linda Sun for about 58 years and when I remarried this February, on the 13th, I added Bill Kilfeather's name whithout losing the Sun. That date is Saint Modomnoc's day, the real patron saint of beekeepers, since I am also a beekeeper and the current Secretary of the Beekeepers Assn of Southern California. I worked for the County of Orange for 36 years, mostly as a superior court clerk, raised my son, Vincent, and for about 13 of those years, kept about 60 parrots. I was asked to give talks about raising these birds and also discussed nutrition. Bird breeders seemed to think it was OK to feed baby birds any food that worked, but I started devising and revising diets and often discussed the need to understand what we were feeding to our babies. Later that idea caught on and veterinarians began promoting feed for baby parrots and made a fortune. No nods in my direction, but I was happy that the chicks were eating better after I came on the scene. I was also the secretary, editor, vice-prez, etc. for 3 bird publications. I then raised roses (tried hybridizing) and was also asked to discuss these at gatherings and, of course, became the secretary, president, consulting rosarian, etc. Even though we will not have much water to continue with these beauties on a large scale, roses will probably continue to win my heart. Ever since my mother put a shovel in my hand, much of my life has been (informally) absorbed by botany, but it wasn't until another court clerk asked me, "Why don't you retire and become a rose maven?" that I finally realized it. After that I took the master gardener classes, wrote for the MG newsletter, became an officer, then secretary and have been volunteering ever since. What do I grow at present? Two jujubes, 5 pomegranates (2 Angel Reds, 2 Wonderful, 1 Eversweet), a darling Rose Apple, 3 figs, one Reed avocado, a Santa Rosa plum (which tastes fabulous if you can keep it on the tree until it wants to fall of its own accord) 3 bud-grafted citrus, which I still am not sure "took" properly, one Loquat, approximately 15 Dragon Fruit: ( 4 yellows - 4 red-fleshed [2 G2's and 2 R6's] and 7+ undatus), a Babcock peach and of course lots of bee forage. My husband just told me today that his favorite of everything is Persimmon cookies and Quince jelly, so those will be on the horizon soon. I think I fell in love with Ariana after Jeff Moersfelder talked about pomegranates, so maybe another tree there too. I grew 8 Momordica plants from seed this year, which is a gourd plant used at Chinese New Year and weddings. The seed thick coating has 70 times the Vitamin A as carrots, pumpkin, etc. and I cannot see why everyone must import these from Vietnam every year, so I am trying that also. The plant has a different name in Vietnam, but I can't think of it right now. It is getting late and I must get to bed, but thank you for adding me and if I forgot anything, just let me know. Many thanks, Linda Sun Kilfeather mailto:lindasun@alldial.net Temecula CA 92590-3950 <><><><><><><><><> Readers Write<><><><><><><><><><> Subject: Longan, Cherimoya, Lychees In Melbourne, Australia? From: Nan Sterman Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 19:00:07 -0700 To: ranjit.wimalaratne@gmail.com Dear Ranjit Though I don't live in Australia, I do know that water is severely limited in many, if not all, parts of Australia. Most of the fruits you see growing in your neighborhood take little water - except the citrus, and even then, mature trees take less than young trees. The fruits you would like to grow I believe would take much more water than those you listed, except perhaps for the citrus. Before you invest in planting those trees, I suggest you do your homework and see whether the water situation will allow you to grow them easily. Nan mailto:info@encinitasgardenfestival.org > Dear Leo, > > I was living in Austria and now have moved to Melbourne > Australia. I have a small back garden in which I would like to > grow few non-native fruit trees. I see Pomergranate, Citrus, > Indian/Chiliean Guava and Olive trees growing well in the > neighborhood. I want to know if there are any varieties of > Longon, Cherimoya, and Lychees could be grow here. May be there > are other members from this area on your site that can give me > some insight into this?? > > Best regards. > > Ranjit mailto:ranjit.wimalaratne@gmail.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Dragon Fruit Concentrate-Available In San Diego County? From: Frank Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 02:35:56 +0000 Kim/Leo, will have good quanties of Dragonfruit Concentrate available for distribution in the states. We have an import arrangement and maintain an inventory of both Dragon Fruit Concentrate and Dragon Fruit Jam. We can sell you units by the piece or by the case. If you are interested, please let me know what quantities you are interested in and you zip code for shipping and I will send you the prices. The concentrate comes in 1 liter bottles and 12 to a case. Its assume! I have attached some pics for you. I can be reached at 315-436-0114 or via email. Thanks, Frank mailto:frank@blackmarlin.com > > Subject: Dragon Fruit Concentrate-Available In San Diego County? From: "Kim Simsby" <>kimsimsby@gmail.com Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 03:29:30 -0700 Can you tell me where in San Diego County I can buy Dragon Fruit concentrate? Thanks! Best Regards, Kim Simsby mailto:kimsimsby@gmail.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: RE: Mango Questions From: "Simon Chan" Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 16:31:01 -0700 Wow Leo, did you grow that Edwards Mango yourself? Ive read that Edwards Mangoes produce very poorly. Im surprised that the flavor was not good. I keep reading about how everyone in Florida rates it as the top Mango. The only named cultivar that I have personally tasted and liked is the Kent mango. I live in Mira Mesa now, I just bought my first home and can't wait to get some tropical fruit trees into the ground. I visited your garden before with my wife several years ago but I was only interested in Dragon Fruit at the time. Now I am hooked on mangoes and can't wait to plant some trees. I would really like to visit your garden whenever you have time and get your recommendations on mango varieties. Hope to talk to you soon, Simon mailto:schan@syntheticgenomics.com From: Leo Manuel [mailto:rarefruit@san.rr.com] Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 5:03 PM To: Simon Chan Subject: Re: Mango Questions Hi Simon Edward's favored in Florida so I tried it. I didn't care for the taste so removed it. You're welcome to visit my fruit garden and see my mango trees that are producing well. If you are near the coast, you will want something that will produce there. We can ask the newsletter readers for a recommendation from their experience. I know Early Gold and Villa Senor are good as they have been successfully fruiting near the coast. I've heard that Valencia Pride does well there. The three you mention may not be good for you, except possibly Kent. I have removed both Carrie and Edwards after I found I didn't care from them. Take care, Leo ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Notes on Julie Frink avocado talk From: Holzinger Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 19:06:35 -0700 Hi Leo, Good to see you at the Annual meeting last Saturday. I thought I'd pass on some wisdom I got from Julie Frink's talk about avocados. The biggest surprise was when she said all that's needed for cross pollination is two different varieties, they can be an "A type" and a "B type" or both the same type. The fruit doesn't soften on the tree, so you just need to pick the fruit when it is mature. Her favorite is Sharwil, but she also likes Nimlioh and Holiday. Reed is almost self fruitful, it will do better with cross pollination, but can fruit as a stand alone, as will Stewart. She doesn't plant only large seeds for rootstocks, some small seeded varieties are good because these seeeds put out a lot of roots. If you live in a cold area for avocados, use Mexican varieties as the rootstocks. Lastly, she had a different way of planting: build a mound and put the plant in the pot in the middle of the mound, fill in around it and water it in. Pull the pot out the next day, knock the plant out of the pot carefully and plant it in the hole you made with the pot. This disturbs the roots less than putting the plant in the mound and having the soil settle on the exposed roots. For the lucky people who attended her talk, each got a Sharwil and a CV33 fruit. She had so much to say, she didn't have enough time to cover all of the topics she had planned. The display of about 80 varieties of fruit was impressive. Take care, Bob mailto:holzinger@roadrunner.com [That's surprising to me, and helpful to know! -Leo] ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Creamhart avocado - Who Has It? From: Holzinger Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 22:00:34 -0700 Hi Leo, As we spoke about on the phone, several people are looking for the Orton Englehart avocado cultivar Creamhart. Jim Neitzel says the last time he drove by Orton's old house off W. Lilac Road it was in sad shape and not much was left alive in the yard. So the best bet to find a tree of Creamhart is to throw it out to as wide an audience as possible and see if anyone has one or knows where there is one growing. Anyone with information on this avocado can email me at holzinger@roadrunner.com or call me at (760) 274-6442. Thanks, Bob Holzinger mailto:holzinger@roadrunner.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Information about dragon fruit needed for Research From: Mallawa Arachchi Nishantha Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 14:08:48 +0600 Dear sir I am praneeth student of faculty of agriculture of University Of Ruhuna Sri Lanka. My research topic is effectiveness of arial root fertilization on growth of dragon fruit seedlings. Can you please send me informations about pitahaya that will useful in my thesis preperation. Thank you! Mallawa Arachchi Nishantha mailto:mapnishan@gmail.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Yellow dragon fruit Grower in Huntington Beach? From: "Lorraine Zecca" Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 17:01:58 -0000 Hi Do you have contact information on the fellow who is growing yellow dragon fruit in huntington beach. I think his name is Steve Berges or Berger Thanks Lorraine Zecca mailto:zebra136@hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: 'Carrie' mango From: Ollie Patterson Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 22:07:01 -0400 Hi Leo, You mentioned that you dug up your 'Carrie' tree because you did not like the flavor. That surprises me because here in Florida 'Carrie' is considered by many mango aficionados as the most flavorful mango available. I've tried the majority of the 125 varieties of mangoes grown at the Fruit & Spice Park (in Homestead, FL) and I would also rate 'Carrie' as the best I've had (followed closely by 'Alphonso' and 'Edward'). It makes me wonder if perhaps 'Carrie' is just not well adapted to coastal California's climate, or if maybe the 'Carrie' you had was not truly a 'Carrie.' Interestingly, I found 'Valencia Pride' to be only slightly better than 'Tommy Atkins' in terms of flavor (though with much less fiber), which surprised me because I have heard it described many times as an excellent mango. Again, perhaps climate is the determining factor here. Ollie Patterson mailto:ollie_patterson@embarqmail.com [That is interesting and surprising about Valencia Pride as grown in Florida. My Carrie didn't produce much fruit, as I recall. Thanks for writing. -Leo] ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Keitt mangos at Henry's From: "Bob Holzinger" Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:29:10 -0400 Hi Leo, Just a heads up, I found Keitt mangos at my local Henry's this past weekend for the first time. Its a short season and I thought people might like to know when they arrive. Take it easy, Bob mailto:bob.holzinger@Ambrx.com [Thanks for the tip. We got some and the price was low and the fruit as tasty as usual. -Leo] ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Entomology Seminar - September 14, 2010 From: "CE San Diego" Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:18:25 -0700 Hi all, CAPCA, UC Riverside, and UCCE San Diego have put together a program that brings the best of the Department of Entomology at UC Riverside to discuss the latest insect pest issues and how to control them. The program will take place on Sept 14, 2010 at the South Coast Winery, which is a great venue that is centrally located in the Riverside and San Diego County's agricultural growing areas. Take a look at the program below and you will see that it covers a wide range of commodities and insect pests. It's not often that we can bring together a great group of researchers from UC Riverside and learn from their research and experience. Be ready to ask them the tough questions. We have included two interesting talks, one that covers spiders of importance in agriculture presented by the ever entertaining Rick Vetter, and an update on the Light Brown Apple Moth infestation and the regulations surrounding the quarantine in San Diego County. Please join us. Make your reservations early. This program will fill up fast. Office of Farm & Home Advisor, UC Cooperative Extension 5555 Overland Avenue 151 E. Carmel Street San Diego, CA 92123 San Marcos, CA 92078 (858) 694-2845 (760) 752-4724 mailto:cesandiego@ucdavis.edu ------------------------------------------------ Subject: CRFG: subsidized rain barrels From: "Cory Krell \(CRFG\)" Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:27:46 -0700 The below message was passed along to us by the San Diego Chapter. If interested, the web site link below has application forms plus more details. To CRFG members - The County of San Diego is offering residents of the unincorporated County a subsidized rate of $30.35 + tax for each rain barrel. Residents who do not qualify for the subsidy may purchase a rain barrel system for $60.69 + tax. Attached is the sales event flyer, and is printed below in text for your convenience. If you're interested, please read this email in its entirety. For more information visit www.rethinkwateruse.org. Thanks to member Billie English for passing this information on to our members. Thanks, Cielo Foth CRFG San Diego Chapter What: Rain Barrel Sales Event When: Sat. 8/28 from 8 am to 12 pm Where: The Garden at Cuyamaca College For directions visit www.thegarden.org 12122 Cuyamaca College Dr. W., El Cajon 92019 Locations to view the Rain Barrel System in advance of the sale: County of San Diego 5201 Ruffin Rodad, Suite P San Diego CA 92123 or The Water Conservation Garden at Cuyamaca College 12122 Cuyamaca College,Dr. W., El Cajon 92019 Unincorporated County residents: Bring proof of residence (drivers license, CA ID card, utility bill or homeownership record); fill out application form & maintenance agreement form; cash/check or credit card. What you're buying: One - 55 gal barrel (opaque white, one downspout diverter, one-year product warranty, and installation guide The Rain Barrel System available at this event is designed to be connected to a roof downspout by way of an included downspout diverter. To qualify for this Rain Barrel System, your home needs to have rain gutters with a downspout that can connect to the rain barrel. Cory Krell mailto:CRFG@globalinfo.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Mango varieties for colder inland areas? From: Matthew Shugart Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 12:44:56 -0700 Hi Leo, In response to your query about mango varieties for the coastal areas, I wanted to mention that some years ago I had good success with 'Valencia Pride' in Carlsbad, about a mile from the shore. The tree was fairly vigorous and productive, and I was very pleased with the quality of the fruit. In 2002, after moving to Bonsall (more like 15 miles inland) I was very happy with a 'Thomson' that I bought from you, Leo. Unfortunately, it was killed in the freeze of January, 2007. I have recently moved again, this time to Ramona. I am wondering if I have any chance of growing mangoes out here and, if so, what varieties I might try. This location is at about 1500 feet and seems to have pretty good cold-air drainage. But I have been here only since December 15, so I can't be sure. For what it is worth, after Dec. 15, we had one night with a brief freeze, and otherwise it never got below 34. But I think this was a milder winter across the area than most. Best, Matthew mailto:mshugart@ucsd.edu [If you can protect the plants while young until they develop a large canopy of leaves, you may be able to grow some there. In a cold-winter part of San Diego I planted trees almost flush against both the south-facing and west-facing walls of our home and they did pretty well. A roof overhang will help, or even a greenhouse. It's worth trying, I think.... -Leo] ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Losing a Russian plant collection! From: "Bob Holzinger" Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 11:06:08 -0400 Leo, A story on the npr.org site about the Russians planting and on bulldozing the plant collection at the Vavilov Instutute outside St. Petersburg and building luxury homes and apartments. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=129499099 Bob mailto:bob.holzinger@Ambrx.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Butterflies From: "Minna Riber" Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 09:00:43 -0700 Hi Leo, Our Yellow Sulphur Butterflies have been numerous since July. The Monarchs, just seem to be getting more numerous daily. Have not seen any cocoons as yet. Haven't seen caterpillars but haven't been looked as I have been slowed down with a broken toe. Glad you mentioned caterpillars. We will look for them today. Hope you have had a successful 1/2 summer. The rabbits have gotten Mike's beans on several occasions and my egg plant at least once. Eggplant are now under protection. Fondly, Minna mailto:minna@earthlink.net <><><><> Announcements And Web Pages To Consider <><><><> San Diego Chapter California Rare Fruit Growers Meeting: Where: Casa del Prado Building Room 101, Balboa Park When: Fourth Wednesday Of Each Month (Except December) See: http://www.crfgsandiego.org http://nc.crfgsandiego.org For North County CRFG Chapter Meeting http://www.crfg.org/chapters.html For information about ALL CRFG chapters. <> Agricultural Research Service (ARS) ars>news@arsgrin.gov <> http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/thelatest.htm. None this time <><><><><><><><><> End of AKA RFN201009A.txt <><><><><><><><><><> Rare Fruit News Online - September 15, 2010 - AKA RFN201010B.txt ________________________________________________________________ <><><><> Notes In Passing - Leo <><><><> Malabar Chestnut - Mine blooms with beautiful and sweet-smelling blossoms, but doesn't set 'fruit.' Do some not require a pollinator? Are the nuts worth the effort of acquiring one? Monarch butterflies - Caterpillars have vanished, several died, with at least six chrysalises that I know about. I have not seen a butterfly for several weeks. Do you think that the cool summer may be at least partially responsible? <><><><><><><><><> Table Of Contents <><><><><><><><><> -> -> -> Messages follow the Table Of Contents <- <- <- <><><> New Subscribers <><><> New Subscriber - L.A. West Coast Produce Sales Aaron Velasquez New Subscriber - Near L.A. - Starting Rare Fruit Norm <><><> Readers Write <><><> Plants' Miraculous Survival-Florida Freese Edward Musgrave Indian Almond (Terminalia catappa) Requirements?? Edward Musgrave Latest on Pavlovsk station of Vavilov Institute Douglas Woodard Re: Yellow dragon fruit Grower in Huntington Beach ? Joanne Gram To: zebra136@hotmail.com CRFG: MANGOMADNESS!! (Friday, Sept. 17) Leo Manuel Gardening News from Nan Sterman Nan Sterman, Plant Soup, Inc San Diego CRFG September Newsletter Dawn Martin Senate Bill 510-Most Dangerous Bill in US History? -> -> -> -> -> -> Messages <- <- <- <- <- <- <><><><><><><><> New Subscribers <><><><><><><><><> Subject: New Subscriber - L.A. West Coast Produce Sales From: Aaron Velasquez Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 06:00:56 -0700 Good morning Mr. Manuel, Hello, my name is Aaron Velasquez and I am sales representative for West Central Produce. I would like to subscribe to your newsletter on rare fruits. I am a former chef and I thought I knew everything!!! Since working for this company, I was exposed to many fruits and vegetables that I never seen before In my professional career. Currently, I go to the Santa Monica market to learn about the fruits and vegetables that are in season as well as the rare fruits and vegetable that I have seen in my encounters. Thank you again, Aaron A Velasquez mailto:AVelasquez@westcentralproduce.com West Central Produce Inc. Los Angeles, Ca. 90021 ------------------------------------------------ Subject: New Subscriber - Near L.A. - Starting Rare Fruit From: Norm Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 17:21:51 -0700 (PDT) Hi Leo, My name is Norm Wong and I've been reading and enjoying your Rare Fruit News archives for quite a few years now, but I would now like to be added to your regular email subscription. I live in the East San Gabriel Valley. It's in the most eastern part of Los Angeles County and just North of Orange County, within Southern California. In the winter, we do get a bit of frost and car windshields do need to get scraped several weeks a year. On the low side in 2007 it got down to 21¬ƒF and occasional up to 110¬ƒF in the summers. My interests in growing rare fruits started with a dragon fruit I had in Hong Kong about 13 years ago. I didn't come across it again until 8 years later. Now, I've expanded my growing to fruiting many types of dragon fruit, guava, jujube, persimmon, loquat, blueberry, rasberry, asian pear, many different kinds of citrus, mango, fig, white sapote, and passion fruit. What I have growing and hope to fruit in the near and distant future is jaboticaba, various garcinias, cherimoya, atemoya, biriba, grumichama, cherry of the rio grande, surinam cherry, australian finger lime, lychee, chilean guava, bananas, and pineapple. I'm also growing rambutan and jack fruit, but I don't expect them to ever survive my winters. Regards, Norm mailto:norm_wng@yahoo.com <><><><><><><><><> Readers Write<><><><><><><><><><> Subject: Plants' Miraculous Survival-Florida Freese From: "Edward Musgrave" Date: Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2010 11:44:06 -0700 Hi Leo This is Ed Musgrave from Central FL reporting how the last freeze left us . It was very bad until a few months passed--Then everything came up Literally . I don't think anything died (perhaps a few) Out of my 130 plus Fruit trees over 120 have survived 1/4 never missed a fruiting 1/4 larger trees will miss next fruiting. The rest are growinging vigerously. The growth is larger than before. Edward Musgrave mailto:eamusg@tampabay.rr.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Indian Almond (Terminalia catappa) Requirements?? From: "Edward Musgrave" Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 11:10:28 -0400 Does anyone know more about growing Indian almonds Temperature range PH. or growing conditions Ed Musgrave Brandon FL zone 9B mailto:eamusg@tampabay.rr.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Latest on Pavlovsk station of Vavilov Institute From: Douglas Woodard Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2010 13:18:11 -0400 See Thanks to Jeremy Cherfas of the Agricultural Biodiversity weblog. For a petition see Doug Woodard mailto:dwoodard@becon.org St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Re: Yellow dragon fruit Grower in Huntington Beach ? From: Joanne Gram Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 20:01:56 -0700 To: zebra136@hotmail.com Dear Lorraine, Yes his name is Steve Berger, and he is a member of the California Rare Fruit Growers. 949-968-3862 or 714-968-3862 19542 Independence Lane, HB CA 92646-3754, near the intersection of Brookhurst and Yorktown Huntington Beach is evidently a perfect microclimate for Selenicereus megalanthus which will be getting a new name as Hylocereus megalanthus. He has had the best success of anyone I know with this species. BUT, remember, this fruit takes a LONG time to mature, 60 days vs. 30 days for other species. Very best regards, Joanne Gram mailto:jhgram@earthlink.net Huntington Gardens Docent ------------------------------------------------ Subject: CRFG: MANGOMADNESS!! (Friday, Sept. 17) From: Leo Manuel Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 20:15:11 -0700 Mark your calendar! The North County San Diego Chapter of CRFG upcoming meeting on September 17th is Mango Madness! We are having two parts to Mango Madness: The first half of Mango Madness is a video by Adam Wolf featuring Paul Thompson and others talking about mango cultivation. For the second half of Mango Madness, our chapter has purchased wonderful Keitt mangos to cut up and sample. Bring a napkin for this juicy goodness! And if you have mangos (or home-grown fruit) that you can bring and share, please do so for all of us to enjoy! Friday, September 17th, 7 p.m. MiraCosta College, Horticulture Bldg, Room 7300 Oceanside, CA 92056 map: http://nc.crfgsandiego.org/Portals/2/MiraCostaCollegeMap.pdf Hope to see you there! Cory Krell (CRFG) mailto:CRFG@globalinfo.com> ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Gardening News from Nan Sterman From: "Nan Sterman, Plant Soup, Inc" Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 02:35:24 -0400 (EDT) Joe Lamp'l visited to learn about water-wise gardening nan and Joe Lamp'l Television: Growing a Greener World Sunday, September 18, on a Public Television Station near you September 19, on the Growing a Greener World website When TV host Joe Lamp'l came to visit, he wanted to tour my garden and learn about my water-wise ways. Tune in on broadcast day or follow the link above to the Growing a Greener World website to see the episode and eavesdrop on our afternoon together. Workshop: Waterwise Gardening From the Ground Up Saturday September 25th, 1 - 3 pm San Diego Botanical Gardens (formerly Quail Gardens) Learn to create a waterwise garden from the ground up using an integrated approach: soil organics, appropriate plants and efficient irrigation. Soil expert Sharon May will talk about managing soils and soil organics as a powerful tool for water efficiency. Compost works with microbes in our soils to capture, store, and transport limited water resources to satisfy your plants' needs. Plant professional Nan Sterman will discuss the enormous palette of waterwise plants suited to our region. With so many beautiful plants to choose from, learn how to combine plants to achieve year-round color and interest. Finally, irrigation specialist Kathleen Eagle will cover the most up-to-date irrigation technologies and methods including how to retrofit existing irrigation, how to install a new irrigation system, and how to manage the water to support your new, waterwise garden. San Diego Botanical Gardens 230 Quail Gardens Drive, Encinitas, CA 92024 Class fee: Garden members $70, non members $90 Preregister by Sept 22nd. Please call 760 436-3036 x 206 or visit www.sdbgarden.org Grow plentiful pomegranates with almost no water! Single pomegranate fruit Talk: Incredible! Edible and Waterwise Fruits, vegetables and herbs for a low-water diet Saturday, September 25, 1 pm Master Gardeners of Orange County 8th Annual Gardening Seminar In this talk, Nan will cover: * The most water efficient ways to grow traditional, water-loving vegetables, herbs, and fruits * Low-water vegetables, herbs, and fruits to add to your garden - some you know and some may be a surprise * How to integrate low water edibles in a beautiful way. Huntington Beach Central Library 7111 Talbert Avenue Huntington Beach, CA Nan Sterman mailto:info@plantsoup.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: San Diego CRFG September Newsletter Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:19:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Dawn Martin September 22nd, 2010 All About Bananas with Jon Verdick Wednesday -7pm Where -Room 101 Casa Del Prado, Balboa Park Greetings to all my fruit growing friends; It looks like our summer is over early this year (or never truly arrived) and as we enter the Fall season we are in the best time of year to plant most of our fruit trees. Remember to apply fertilizers with higher ratios of phosphorous as soon as possible in order to enhance flowering and fruit set on spring blooming fruit trees. FAVORITE FRUIT TREES FOR SAN DIEGO By Tom Del Hotal DECIDUOUS FRUIT Deciduous fruit trees often require a winter dormancy period where temperatures fall between 32 and 45 degrees F. in order to grow, flower and fruit properly. Varieties differ in the number of hours they require at these temperatures to overcome dormancy. The fruit trees listed under Column A have the lowest chilling requirements (0 -300 hours) and should perform well in most areas of San Diego. The fruit trees listed under Column B have higher chilling requirements (300 -500 hours) and may not perform well in areas of very low chill (less than 250-300 hours). Column A Column B COMMENTS APPLES Anna; Beverly Hills; Dorsett Golden; Pettingill; Winter Banana; Winter Pearmain; Fuji Gordon; Granny Smith; Mutsu; Pink Lady; Prune to central leader or modified central leader shape. Dormant spray to control dormant diseases & overwintering insects. Some varieties require pollinizers. APRICOTS Floragold; Gold Kist; Autumn Royal; Katy; Royal (Bleinheim); Prune to open vase or modified open vase shape. Fruit is produced on short lived fruiting spurs. Dormant spray to control dormant diseases & overwintering insects. Do not dormant spray with lime-sulfur (calcium polysulfide) dormant sprays. CHERRIES Minnie Royal; Royal Lee; Two new sweet cherries that reportedly have lower chill requirements than most sweet cherries, reportedly 250-400 chill hours. Need both for cross pollination. Prune to open vase or modified open vase shape. Excellent fruit. FIGS Black Madeira; Black Mission; Brown Turkey; Celeste; Conadria; Italian; Everbearing King (Desert King); Osborne; Prolific Panache* White Genoa; Roots are very invasive. Prune to control size. *Not good for cool coastal areas. Needs long, hot summer temperatures to ripen. JUJUBE Lang, Li Extremely hardy. No pests or diseases. Drought tolerant. NECTARINES Arctic Star; Desert Delight; Gulf Pride; Panamint; Snow Queen; Arctic Glo; Prune to open vase or modified open vase shape. Fruit borne on last years wood. Dormant spray to control dormant diseases & overwintering insects. PEACHES August Pride; Bonita; Desert Gold; Earligrande; Flordaprince; May Pride; Mid Pride; Red Baron; Scarlet Robe; Springtime; Tropic Snow; Ventura; Babcock; Earlitreat Prune to open vase or modified open vase shape. Fruit borne on last years wood. Dormant spray to control dormant diseases & overwintering insects. MULBERRIES Morus nigra; Kaester; Persian; Morus alba; & Hybrids Illinois Everbearing; Pakistani; Phil¹s White Sullivan Roots are very invasive. Prune to control size. Morus nigra are smaller trees and produce fruit which have a more balanced sugar-to-acid flavor. PEARS EUROPEAN Flordahome; Hood HYBRID Fan Stil; Kieffer; Monterrey; Orient ASIAN 20th Century; Shinseiki Tsu Li; Ya Li EUROPEAN Comice Prune to central leader or modified central leader shape. Many varieties require pollinizers. All except Hybrid Pear varieties are highly susceptible to fireblight. PERSIMMON Fuyu *; Giant Fuyu*; Hachiya *These varieties are non-astringent and can be eaten firm or soft. Wood is very brittle, prune for structural strength. PLUMS Beauty; Burgundy; European Green Gage; Hollywood; Late Santa Rosa; Methley; Santa Rosa; Weeping Santa Rosa; Elephant Heart; Kelsy Mariposa; Satsuma Shiro Prune to open vase or modified open vase shape. Fruit borne on long lived fruiting spurs. Dormant spray to control dormant diseases & overwintering insects. Some varieties require pollinizers. INTERSPECIFIC PLUM HYBRIDS PLUMCOTS & PLUOTS Flavorella; Plum Parfait APRIUMS Cot-N-Candy; Flavor Delight CHERRY PLUMS Delight Sprite PLUOTS Dapple Dandy; Emerald Drop; Flavor Grenade; Flavor King; Flavor Queen; Flavor Rich Prune to open vase or modified open vase shape. Fruit borne on fruiting spurs. Dormant spray to control dormant diseases & overwintering insects. Do not dormant spray with lime-sulfur (calcium polysulfide) dormant sprays. Most varieties require pollinizers. POMEGRANATE Eversweet; Utah Sweet; Angel Red; Wonderful Extremely hardy. Drought tolerant. Fruit can be tart or sweet. Seeds can be hard or semi- hard. Dawn Martin mailto:dawn@craftyharper.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Senate Bill 510-Most Dangerous Bill in US History? From: Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 11:02:05 -0400 Is Congress about to steal your freedom to grow and sell herbs? How would you like to end up in jail for growing herbs and giving them to your neighbor? Think it's absurd and will never happen here in the Land of the Free? Think again. You may have heard that Congress is now back in session after a late-summer recess. One of the first bills they will consider is Senate Bill 510. This bill imposes draconian oversight on food production. It imposes extremely burdensome requirements on thousands of small farmers and food processors. Many of these small food producers might be selling directly to you in your local area. This bill easily could wipe out the small organic farmer. But it could be much worse. Conceivably, you could become a criminal simply for growing herbs and giving them to your friend. We don't have the full understanding of how far the "benevolent" government wants to go in protecting your food. It's possible that some bureaucrat's interpretation might finger your herb garden. We have to stop this bill. But it won't be easy. After the big egg recall, Americans are clamoring for protection from the government. I have little doubt that the unseen pushers of bills like this are Big Agri which seeks to destroy the small farmer. But they're not the only ones behind this horrible bill. My sources say that this bill will remove our rights to own and store seeds and place that otherwise inherent right into the hands of the likes of GMO Frankenfood giant Monsanto. (No wonder this bill is getting so much support.) In the name of food safety, the government could move to promote antibiotics, hormones, and GMO Frankenseeds, likely wiping out the small conscious farmer. To call your Senator's office in Washington, follow this link. http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm Robert J. Rowen, MD <><><><> Announcements And Web Pages To Consider <><><><> San Diego Chapter California Rare Fruit Growers Meeting: Where: Casa del Prado Building Room 101, Balboa Park When: Fourth Wednesday Of Each Month (Except December) See: http://www.crfgsandiego.org http://nc.crfgsandiego.org For North County CRFG Chapter Meeting http://www.crfg.org/chapters.html For information about ALL CRFG chapters. <> Agricultural Research Service (ARS) mailto:news@arsgrin.gov <> http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/thelatest.htm. None this time <><><><><><><><><> End of RFN201009B.txt <><><><><><><><><><> Rare Fruit News Online - October 1, 2010 - AKA RFN201010A.txt _____________________________________________________________ <><><><> Notes In Passing - Leo <><><><> Surprise rain here on September 30! It came with considerable thunder, and measured a bit over 0.5 inches. Today, the first it begins with drizzle. It came after several days of mid-upper 90º temperatures that kept us applying water to some stressed plants. How has the summer affected your fruiting plants? You may miss information from the ARS from Hawaii on the Ohelo Berry and on Lychees. It is near the end of the newsletter, where you normally have nothing to read. <><><><><><><><><> Table Of Contents <><><><><><><><><> -> -> -> Messages follow the Table Of Contents <- <- <- <><><> New Subscribers <><><> New Subscriber - San Marcos, CA - Likes Pitayas Susan Garza <><><> Readers Write <><><> RE: Malabar Chestnut - Self Fertile? Oscar Jaitt 2010 Southeastern Citrus Expo in Wilmington, NC Stanley McKenzie Principal Ag Tech Job Listing for Lindcove REC Beth Grafton-Cardwell Edible desert garden Cielo Kuriositas-Jabuticaba (sic) Has Fruit on its Trunk! dracademia@aol.com Macadamia Field Day - Nov. 6, 2010 CE San Diego (In ARS Section 'way down in RFNO) Scientists release 1st cultivated Ohelo berry for Hawaii ARS News Service http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/2010/100924.htm http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/2010/100924.htm?pf=1 -> -> -> -> -> -> Messages <- <- <- <- <- <- <><><><><><><><> New Subscribers <><><><><><><><><> Subject: New Subscriber - San Marcos, CA - Likes Pitayas From: "Susan Garza" Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:44:15 -0700 Hi Leo, My name is Susan Garza and my mom has inspired me to start my own garden. I grew up having tried many exotic fruits and veggies as she has quite the garden filled with things like Pomegranate, Japanese Persimmon, Pluots, Mandarin Tangerine, Papaya and many Japanese veggies and herbs. One of my favorites growing up was her Green Gage Plum tree, but unfortunately she had to knock it down since it was diseased. I grew up with that tree and it lived more than 30 years. The skin was sour, but the meat was sweet as honey. I sure do miss it. As for me, I don't have much but I'm excited to get started! Currently, I have an Asian Pear tree and Tangerine tree, plus my new find the Dragon Fruit! Right now, my garden is mostly succulents, but I'm getting more and more interested in growing my own organic fruit. My backyard is not very big, but I plan to fill it with different fruit and veg. I'm looking forward to reading your Newsletter! Thank you in advance for sending it to me! Blessings, Susan Garza mailto:onechristian@sbcglobal.net ------------------------------------------------ Subject: New Subscriber - Nassau, Bahamas From: "Tim Hauber" Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:45:28 -0400 I am Tim Hauber in Nassau, The Bahamas Currently I am growing Sugar Apple, Hog Plum, Scarlett Plum, and Mango I would like to grow Dragon Fruit, Fig, and Blackberry.. just purchased some stock of these items from a company in Florida and I am trying to learn about how to grow them effectively I run two different farms, one hydroponic greenhouse that uses all the newest techniques to grow tomatoes, peppers and cucumbers without soil or pesticides and another farm that is a traditional soil based farm were we are doing everything we can to develop healthy dynamic soil for production of fruits and vegetables for our farmers market. Right now I am looking for practical tips on growing Dragon Fruit but I am looking to learn all I can about appropriate fruit for our soil and climate here in The Bahamas Tim Hauber mailto:tim.hauber@lucayantropical.com Grower/General Manager Lucayan Tropical Produce PO Box CB-12043 Nassau, Bahamas www.lucayantropical.com <><><><><><><><><> Readers Write<><><><><><><><><><> Subject: RE: Malabar Chestnut - Self Fertile? From: Oscar Jaitt Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:39:43 -1000 Hi Leo, is your malabar chestnut Pachira glabra? You can tell if it is by looking at trunk color. If it is green then it is Pachira glabra, which is really French peanut, not malabar chestnut. Trunk on these when mature also gets swollen...elephant foot effect. (There is a whole lot of of confusion between this species and Pachira aquatica, the real malabar chestnut.) Anyway, if it is Pachira glabra yes it is quite tasty. No they do not need cross pollination, but they do need insect pollinators. Here they are usually visited by bees. Oscar, Hawaii mailto:fruitlovers@hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: 2010 Southeastern Citrus Expo in Wilmington, NC From: Stanley McKenzie Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:47:16 -0400 Join Us For the 2010 Southeastern Citrus Expo in Wilmington, NC This years Southeastern Citrus Expo will be held at the New Hanover County Arboretum located at 6206 Oleander Dr. in Wilmington. The dates for this event are November 19th and 20th. Our host this year are Tim Armstrong and Terry Reed. The Citrus Expo kicks off with the annual Citraholics Banquet that will be held this year at the Dockside Restaurant. The restaurant is located at 1308 Arlie Rd. We have reserved a room on the upper level of the facility that has a great view overlooking the Intracostal Waterway. You can find more information on The Dockside at their website: http://www.thedockside.com. Time for the Citraholics Banquet is 7:30 PM. The Southeastern Citrus Expo official meeting begins Saturday morning at 9 am. Event registration and fruit registration for the Citrus Fruit Contest will begin promptly at 9 am. There will be a 10 dollar registration fee to help cover expenses generated by the Expo. Fruit contest registrations will be accepted from 9-10 am only. Rules for the contest and other information is available at www.sepalms.org. This years speakers will be Ken Wilkes, Master Gardener from Wilmington who will speak on soils. Tim Armstrong, Wilmington meteorologist will speak on climate data from several locations in the Southeast and on severe freezes that have affected our area in the past 30 years. Dr Wayne Hanna from the University of Georgia, Tifton, will be giving an update on his attempts to develop seedless Changsha mandarins and Ichang lemons using irradiation. Our keynote speaker this year is Dr. Malcolm Manners from Lakeland Florida. Dr Manners teaches courses on citrus production, pest and disease manangement and other citrus related topics at Florida Southern College in Lakeland Florida. He is also an expert on tropical and temperate fruits along with being a collector of heirloom roses with some 300 cultivars in his collection. We are honored to have him with us this year and he will be conducting a question and answer session following his lecture. As in the past, there will be a plant sale along with a plant raffle. The plant sale features not only citrus but palms, eucalyptus, camellias and many other rare and unusual plants. The Expo will end around 3 PM with announcements of the prize winners for the Fruit Contest and a drawing for the lucky winners of the Plant Raffle. Make plans now to join us for a fun time celebrating the wonderful diversity of the Citrus Family! If you need more info or have questions, feel free to contact me at mailto:citrusman99@hotmail.com. Hope to see you there! ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Principal Ag Tech Job Listing for Lindcove REC From: "Beth Grafton-Cardwell" Date: Thursday, September 16, 2010 1:31:25 PM The job of Principal Agricultural Technician for the Lindcove Research and Extension Center is still open. If you know anyone who has citrus farming experience and management skills, please encourage them to apply. Beth Grafton-Cardwell Director Lindcove Research and Extension Center 22963 Carson Ave. Exeter, CA 93221 Beth mailto:BETHGC@uckac.edu ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Edible desert garden From: Cielo Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Hi Leo, Sorry this is so late. I wanted to share what I learned from the Festival of Fruit held last August at Cal Poly. I took something home from Bob Hornback's talk on "Luther Burbank Spineless Cacti." I can't be the only one who didn't know about Luther Burbank's contributions until then. It was a fascinating talk; Bob was quite passionate about his subject. I have a desert garden that wasn't doing a whole lot for me, so applying what I learned, I have made some changes. I removed and found good home for all non-edible spiny cactus including some large specimens of agave, aloes and euphorbias. I've replaced them with fruiting cacti (opuntia spp. and blueberry cactus). Before the addition of the edible cacti, this garden was my parking lot until I relandscape it for more subtropical & tropical fruit trees, but now, I think, it's an excelent addition to my landscape. Last year I razed my rose garden and terraced it to plant several varieties of pitahayas I have acquired in the last few years from the Pitahaya Festival. Thanks to Ramiro Lobo and Edgar Valdivia's generosities in providing them. I welcome suggestions of more edible cacti that I should try. Fruitfully, Cielo mailto:cielo_g@yahoo.com Coastal San Diego ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Kuriositas-Jabuticaba (sic) Has Fruit on its Trunk! From: dracademia@aol.com Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:17:08 -0400 Great Pictures - Jabuticaba (Jaboticaba) The Tree that Fruits on its Trunk http://www.kuriositas.com/2010/04/jabuticaba-tree-that-fruits-on-its.html If you have not seen this odd-fruiting tree, you may want to see the pictures on the site. ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Macadamia Field Day - Nov. 6, 2010 From: "CE San Diego" Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:49:07 -0700 To: Hi everyone, The 2010 Macadamia Field Day is little more than a month away. Please mark your calendar now for a day of fun, food, and information. The attached flyer contains more details, the registration form, and directions. Best regards, Gary mailto:gsbender@ucdavis.edu Farm Advisor Subtropical Horticulture University of California Cooperative Extension 151 E. Carmel Street San Marcos, CA 92078 Macadamia Field Day 2010 Presented by The University of California Cooperative Extension, The Calif Macadamia Society and Gold Crown Macadamia Assn Saturday, November 6, 2010 8:45 am 1:30 pm Macadamias are not only grown commercially but also make excellent back yard trees, are beautiful as landscaping, and can be grown in tubs on your patio. The macadamia is native to Australia and has been grown in California continuously since 1879. Please join us for a day of fun, food, and information. You will learn about growing Macadamia nuts in California through classes and will have lots of opportunities to ask questions. Location: Prather residence, 6686 Via de la Reina, Bonsall, CA Questions? Contact Jim Russell at (760) 728-8081 or russellfarms@Roadrunner.com Macadamia Meeting and Field Day Registration Form Cost: $20.00 per person. Includes continental breakfast and lunch Name: __________________________ Phone: _______________ Address:_______________________________________________ E-Mail Address:__________________________________________ Mail registration form along with your check to: California Macadamia Society, P.O. Box 1298, Fallbrook, CA 92088 You may also visit www.macnuts.org/fieldday.htm for a registration form. Directions: 6686 Via de la Reina, Bonsall >From I-15 Exit on the Gopher Canyon/Old Castle exit. Go east on Gopher Canyon Road to the traffic light (.1 mile). Turn left on Old Highway 395 and go about 1 mile. Turn left on Camino del Rey. Go 1.7 miles and turn left onto Via de la Reina. Climb the hill (about. 8 miles) and 6686 will be on the right after you pass the top of the hill. Look for parking directions. >From I-5 Take the SR-76 exit and go east just over 12 miles and, at a traffic light, turn right onto Camino del Rey. Go approximately 3 miles and turn right onto Via de la Reina. Climb the hill (about. 8 miles) and 6686 will be on the right after you pass the top of the hill. Look for parking directions. <><><><> Announcements And Web Pages To Consider <><><><> San Diego Chapter California Rare Fruit Growers Meeting: Where: Casa del Prado Building Room 101, Balboa Park When: Fourth Wednesday Of Each Month (Except December) See: http://www.crfgsandiego.org http://nc.crfgsandiego.org For North County CRFG Chapter Meeting http://www.crfg.org/chapters.html For information about ALL CRFG chapters. <> Agricultural Research Service (ARS) mailto:news@arsgrin.gov <> http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/thelatest.htm. Subject: Scientists release 1st cultivated Ohelo berry for Hawaii From: ARS News Service Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:55:59 -0400 http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/2010/100924.htm Scientists Release First Cultivated 'helo Berry for Hawaii By Stephanie Yao September 24, 2010 The first cultivar of 'helo berry, a popular native Hawaiian fruit, has been released by U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) scientists and their university and industry cooperators. 'helo (Vaccinium reticulatum Smith) is a small, native Hawaiian shrub in the cranberry family, commonly found at high elevations on the islands of Maui and Hawaii. As people scour the landscape to harvest this delectable berry for use in jam, jelly and pie filling, they unfortunately disrupt the fragile habitats where this plant grows. In an effort to reduce damage to the environment and meet consumer demands, horticulturist Francis T.P. Zee, with the USDA Agricultural Research Service (ARS) Pacific Basin Agricultural Research Center (PBARC) in Hilo, Hawaii, is evaluating 'helo for small farm production and ornamental use. Zee collaborated with fellow ARS scientists and cooperators at the University of Hawaii at Manoa, Big Island Candies and the Big Island Association of Nurserymen. ARS is the principal intramural scientific research agency of USDA. Zee and his team selected the offspring of seed-grown plants to create the new cultivar "Kilauea" for berry production. They found 'helo's tiny seeds readily germinated under 20-30 percent shade in well-watered and well-drained potting mixture. Plant hardiness and vigor improved with age, and some seedlings flowered just 10 months after germination, much sooner than the 5 years reported in previous studies. The 16-month-old plants Zee successfully transplanted from the greenhouse to the field produced berries a year later. Zee also used cuttings and tissue culture to propagate selected 'helo of high ornamental potential. With proper care, young, growing shoots of 'helo can be groomed into vibrant, colorful ornamental potted plants. Since the plant is not seasonal, its readiness for market can be scheduled by trimming and fertilizing. Older potted 'helo plants can be trained into a bonsai and can readily adapt to the office environment. Zee and PBARC scientists are currently examining the disease and insect problems associated with growing potted 'helo. Full descriptions of Zee's 'helo studies can be found on the University of Hawaii's College of Tropical Agriculture and Human Resources' (CTAHR) website. For further reading * Lychee studies yield keys to plentiful, predictable harvests * Pineapples have fingerprints, too * Luscious longans protected in ARS collection http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/2010/100924.htm?pf=1 ARS researchers have developed a practical management protocol that has improved consistency and reliability of fruit production by "Kaimana" lychee trees in Hawaii.Click the image for more information about it. For further reading * Making lychee and longan harvests predictable * Exotic lychees safeguarded in ARS botanical library * Hot bath foils lychee and longan insect foes _____ Hawaii: Lychee Studies Yield Keys to Plentiful, Predictable Harvests By Marcia Wood May 18, 2009 Lychee, an exotic tropical fruit, is perhaps best known for the flavorful ice cream you can often find at Asian restaurants. But this luscious fruit can also be eaten fresh, or made into elegant sauces, distinctive jams or jellies, and more. Though lychee can be grown in Hawaii, the mild, sunny climate of the Island State doesn't precisely match that of lychee's southern China origins. To boost farmers' chances of plentiful, predictable harvests of large, delicious lychee in Hawaii, Agricultural Research Service (ARS) research horticulturists Tracie Matsumoto and Francis T.P. Zee have developed and tested a regimen of pruning and fertilizing lychee trees. They're working with a variety known as Kaimana. Now, the scientists and their University of Hawaii colleagues are fine-tuning their management system for Kaimana trees. Zee and Matsumoto are with the ARS Tropical Plant Genetic Resources and Disease Research Unit, part of the U.S. Pacific Basin Agricultural Research Center in Hilo, Hawaii. Some growers who've tried the scientists' lychee management protocol in Hawaii have reported impressive results. For example, they've noted yields averaging more than 100 pounds of delectable, nicely sized fruit per tree. Many Kaimana trees that are now top performers previously produced less than half that much fruit or, in some years, no fruit at all, according to the researchers. None of the proceduresprecisely timed fertilizing and pruningare, in themselves, new to orchardists. Instead, it's the combination, timing and specific details of each technique that make the management system different from what many Kaimana growers have tried in the past. The management system is based on six years of observation and experimentation with Kaimana trees growing on the rainy side of Hawaii Island. Now Matsumoto is determining how to make the tactics as successful in the island's other microclimates. Read more about this research in the May/June 2009 issue of Agricultural Research magazine. http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/2009/090518.htm?pf=1 <><><><><><><><><> End of RFN201010A.txt <><><><><><><><><><> Rare Fruit News Online - October 15, 2010 - AKA RFN201010B.txt ______________________________________________________________ <><><><> Notes In Passing - Leo <><><><> San Diego Area Free Tacos: The following was sent by a reliable friend: This is true! Rubio's won the award for best Fish Taco's in San Diego. As a thank you, they are giving away FREE Taco's on Wednesday 20 October at all San Diego Temecula and Murrieta locations. They will begin serving at 10:00 a.m. and will continue until closing at 9:00 p.m. I was told by our local manager that there will be an announcement in Sundays news paper. There has already been mention of the event on News 10. Enjoy. Perhaps we will see you there. I got so lonely without the Monarch Butterflies of last year (I have not seen any caterpillars for a month or more) that Alice Snow in nearby Spring Valley is sending over several, caterpillars that have been more frequently hatching this summer at her home. Her summer has been warmer than mine. Let us know how your fruit garden is doing. I have quite a few mango fruit, but not on all trees. Oro has almost none, but EarlyGold has quite a few.... <><><><><><><><><> Table Of Contents <><><><><><><><><> -> -> -> Messages follow the Table Of Contents <- <- <- <><><> New Subscribers <><><> New Subscriber - Near L.A. - Starting Rare Fruit Norm New Subscriber - Diamond Bar, California Reynaldo D. Fernandez New Subscriber - L.A. West Coast Produce Sales Aaron Velasquez <><><> Readers Write <><><> RE: Jaboticaba The Tree that Fruits on its Trunk Oscar Jaitt Ohelo (aka 'helo) Berry In Hawaii Oscar Jaitt Dragonfruit Juice website "Frank S. Caruso" Excalibur Food Dehydrator Cielo & Kevin Yahoo Group-Hawaii Hawaii Tropical Fruit Lovers Oscar Jaitt Newsletter from the South Bay Botanic Garden South Bay Botanic Garden Yellow Jaboticaba - Information Sought "Edward Musgrave" Pink Mammoth Atemoya - Information Sought "Bob Holzinger" Annual National Citrus Institute Tues, Nov 16 "CE San Diego" -> -> -> -> -> -> Messages <- <- <- <- <- <- <><><><><><><><> New Subscribers <><><><><><><><><> Subject: New Subscriber - Near L.A. - Starting Rare Fruit From: Norm Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 17:21:51 -0700 (PDT) Hi Leo, My name is Norm Wong and I've been reading and enjoying your Rare Fruit News archives for quite a few years now, but I would now like to be added to your regular email subscription. I live in the East San Gabriel Valley. It's in the most eastern part of Los Angeles County and just North of Orange County, within Southern California. In the winter, we do get a bit of frost and car windshields do need to get scraped several weeks a year. On the low side in 2007 it got down to 21 deg F and occasional up to 110 deg F in the summers. My interests in growing rare fruits started with a dragon fruit I had in Hong Kong about 13 years ago. I didn't come across it again until 8 years later. Now, I've expanded my growing to fruiting many types of dragon fruit, guava, jujube, persimmon, loquat, blueberry, rasberry, asian pear, many different kinds of citrus, mango, fig, white sapote, and passion fruit. What I have growing and hope to fruit in the near and distant future is jaboticaba, various garcinias, cherimoya, atemoya, biriba, grumichama, cherry of the rio grande, surinam cherry, australian finger lime, lychee, chilean guava, bananas, and pineapple. I'm also growing rambutan and jack fruit, but I don't expect them to ever survive my winters. Regards, Norm mailto:norm_wng@yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: New Subscriber - Diamond Bar, California From: Reynaldo D. Fernandez Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 20:30:01 -0400 (EDT) I live in Diamond Bar, CA and and am growing mangoes, avocadoes, mandarin (honey, tango and satsuma) cherimoyas, atemoya, carambola, jujubi (li, lang and #866) pommelo, guavas, jaboticaba, jambolan and sapodilla. I will appreciate it very much if you will include my name on your mailing list for your newsletter. I am a dentist by profession and growing rare fruit trees is a hobby of mine, and I am also a member of the CRFG. Thank you in advance. Dr. Reynaldo D. Fernandez mailto:reydmd@aol.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: New Subscriber - L.A. West Coast Produce Sales From: Aaron Velasquez Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 06:00:56 -0700 Good morning Mr. Manuel, Hello, my name is Aaron Velasquez and I am sales representative for West Central Produce. I would like to subscribe to your newsletter on rare fruits. I am a former chef and I thought I knew everything!!! Since working for this company, I was exposed to many fruits and vegetables that I never seen before In my professional career. Currently, I go to the Santa Monica market to learn about the fruits and vegetables that are in season as well as the rare fruits and vegetable that I have seen in my encounters. Thank you again, Aaron A Velasquez mailto:AVelasquez@westcentralproduce.com West Central Produce Inc. Los Angeles, Ca. 90021 <><><><><><><><><> Readers Write<><><><><><><><><><> Subject: RE: Jaboticaba The Tree that Fruits on its Trunk From: Oscar Jaitt Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 19:38:54 -1000 Nice photos, but a couple of corrections, no the jaboticaba tree does not fruit year round. It has definite seasons, even in its native Brazil, thought it can fruit several times a year. Also this fruit is practically unknown in Argentina, though it could probably grown in areas bordering Brazil, you will never see it in Argentinian markets. Don't know about Paraguay, but suspect same is true there. Oscar mailto:fruitlovers@hotmail.com Hawaii ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Ohelo (aka 'helo) Berry In Hawaii From: Oscar Jaitt Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 19:47:55 -1000 ARS article keeps mentioning 'helo berry. But it is supposed to be Ohelo berry (Vaccinium reticulatum). This is a native fruit in Hawaii at upper elevations. Most common at 2-3000 foot elevation. It is very common inside Volcano National park. If you do any of the hikes inside the upper part of the park you will probably see it. Fruits almost year round. Oscar mailto:fruitlovers@hotmail.com Hawaii ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Dragonfruit Juice website From: "Frank S. Caruso" Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 09:47:19 -0400 Hi Leo, you had asked if we had a website for our dragonfruit juice and jelly products. It up now, so if you could forward to anyone interested that would be great. Thanks, Frank mailto:frank@blackmarlin.com http://www.dragontini.com/index.html ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Excalibur Food Dehydrator From: Cielo & Kevin Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 15:17:52 -0700 (PDT) I visited a couple who bought 3 of this brand, and watched them all work. I ordered one as soon as I got home. I tasted some of items, including a bluberry yogurt. That tasted and felt like a blueberry yogurt taffy. Chewy good. Cielo mailto:cielonkevin@yahoo.com --- On Tue, 9/28/10, Leo Manuel wrote: From: Leo Manuel Subject: Re: food dehydrator To: "Cielo & Kevin" Date: Tuesday, September 28, 2010, 7:16 PM Hi Cielo Yes, that's the same brand, and it looks much the same as what's on the webpage, and I believe you'll be pleased with it. Dick and Alice Snow told me about it first. Leo ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Yahoo Group-Hawaii Hawaii Tropical Fruit Lovers From: Oscar Jaitt Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 12:58:04 -1000 Hi Leo, I just started a new group in Yahoo called Hawaii Tropical Fruit Lovers. Anyone anywhere interested in anything relating to tropical fruit, but especially growing tropical fruits, is welcome to join and post messages. Can you please help to spread the word? The web address to sign up and view messages is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HawaiiFruitlovers/ Thank you, Oscar Jaitt mailto:fruitlovers@hotmail.com Hawaii ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Yellow Jaboticaba - Information Sought From: "Edward Musgrave" Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 12:19:21 -0400 Does anyone know of a Yellow Jabadacaba tree? I need some information on the fruit what it tastes like how good tasting it is. I have one about 5 ft tall in very good growth that will probably fruit next April Edward Musgrave mailto:eamusg@tampabay.rr.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: 'Pink Mammoth' Atemoya - Information Sought From: "Bob Holzinger" Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 15:58:06 -0400 Hi Leo, I asked Oscar for the name of the variety of atemoya he shared with Lin and I when we visited last month and it was Pink Mammoth. I have never heard of this variety. He said the predominant variety on the island is African Pride, no surprise. Take care, Bob mailto:bob.holzinger@Ambrx.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Newsletter from the South Bay Botanic Garden From: South Bay Botanic Garden Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 15:25:27 -0400 (EDT) South Bay Botanic Garden Newsletter Next Meeting - Tuesday, October 12th 6:30 - 8:00 pm Room 1801 South Bay Botanic Garden Southwestern College (park inside the garden) Our next monthly SBBG meeting will be held on our normal second Tuesday of the month on October 12th, at 6:30 pm at the SBBG. This time we will spend some time dividing some ornamental grasses that will be planted in Monocot Meadow. So, help us "Divide and Conquer" Monocot Meadow at our next meeting. Remember, anyone can attend our meetings and help us to determine the direction and future of our wonderful garden. We usually start each meeting with a guest speaker or with some hands-on activity. Then we dive into the topics we need to discuss. Any current LNT student can attend and can even earn some extra credit in their classes. A great deal for all involved. SBBG Monthly Meetings - Every 2nd Tuesday of the month, 6:30 - 8:00 pm, Room 1802, SBBG Contact Info Bill Homyak 619-421-6700 ext 5371 mailto:whomyak@swccd.edu or Eddie Muguia 619-421-6700 ext 5416 mailto:emunguia@swccd.edu ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Annual National Citrus Institute Tues, Nov 16 From: "CE San Diego" Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 14:50:46 -0700 Hello everyone, Mark your calendars because the 62nd Annual National Citrus Institute is only a month away! Best regards, Gary S. Bender, Ph.D. mailto:gsbender@ucdavis.edu Farm Advisor Subtropical Horticulture University of California Cooperative Extension 151 E. Carmel Street San Marcos, CA 92078 Citrus Institue Flyer Type info into this form, print and fax to: (909) 889-7666 OR print and mail with payment to: NOS Events Center, Attn: National Citrus Institute 689 South E Street, San Bernardino, CA 92408 First Name _________________________ Last Name_________________________________ Title_______________________________ Organization________________________________ Address_____________________________________ City__________________________State____ Zip___________ Daytime Phone # (_____)_______________ Email____________________________________ Payment Information: (check one) Check Enclosed (Make checks payable to National Orange Show) Please charge the credit card listed below: Visa Master Card Credit Card #_________________________ Card Holder's Name________________________ Billing Address ________________________________________ Expiration Date_________________ Security Code #_______ One registrant per form. For more information on registration, please call 909) 888-6788 ext. 410. <><><><> Announcements And Web Pages To Consider <><><><> San Diego Chapter California Rare Fruit Growers Meeting: Where: Casa del Prado Building Room 101, Balboa Park When: Fourth Wednesday Of Each Month (Except December) See: http://www.crfgsandiego.org http://nc.crfgsandiego.org For North County CRFG Chapter Meeting http://www.crfg.org/chapters.html For information about ALL CRFG chapters. <> Agricultural Research Service (ARS) mailto:news@arsgrin.gov <> http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/thelatest.htm. None this time <><><><><><><><><> End of RFN201010B.txt <><><><><><><><><><> Rare Fruit News Online - November 1, 2010 - AKA RFN201011A.txt ______________________________________________________________ <><><><> Notes In Passing - Leo <><><><> How has this years weather affected your crops? In my part of San Diego the rains have made all crops more luxuriant than I have seen ever them, especially mango trees. It has caused fruit to split, of course, and wildfire risks have been greatly reduced. And weeds are more abundant, of course, but the cool weather has slowed their growth. How has the Florida summer affected your crops? This summer has brought very few Monarch Butterflies and their caterpillars this summer - probably because of the coolness but friends around San Diego have seen many more than I have. If you keep track of them, what have you observed. I have missed them. Visited http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HawaiiFruitlovers/ to see if Oscar Jaitt's Hawaii Fruit Lovers group is what you wish to join? With permission, I will pass along information of such subtropicals such as Surinam Cherries and others that can survive our weather in Southern California and Florida. They have fine photographs that are sure to impress you. <><><><><><><><><> Table Of Contents <><><><><><><><><> -> -> -> Messages follow the Table Of Contents <- <- <- <><><> New Subscribers <><><> New Subscriber La Mesa, CA Needs Help Selecting Trees Devin Harmon <><><> Readers Write <><><> RE: Yellow Jaboticaba - Information Sought Oscar Jaitt To: Edward Musgrave Pineapple Guava David Isaev Palm Pest Allan Bredeson [HawaiiFruitlovers] Digest Number 10, 11 HawaiiFruitlovers@yahoogroups.com To: HawaiiFruitlovers@yahoogroups.com> 1a. Surinam cherries Posted by: foodiesleuth cubanwahine@hawaii.rr.com __ 1b. Re: Surinam cherries Posted by: ken love ken@mycoffee.net __ 1c. Re: Surinam cherries Posted by: foodiesleuth cubanwahine@hawaii.rr.com __ 1d. Re: Surinam cherries Posted by: ken love ken@mycoffee.net __ 1a. Re: Surinam cherries Posted by: owanafarm owanafarm@yahoo.com.mx __ 1b. Re: Surinam cherries Posted by: foodiesleuth cubanwahine@hawaii.rr.com> Source Of Grape Seeds Sought Maurice Kong Reminder: Macadamia Field Day - Nov. 6, 2010 CE San Diego New spotted wing fruit fly Website The Grower / Citrus + Vegetable Macadamia Field Day & Persimmon Picking Nov. 6, 7 Cielo & Kevin -> -> -> -> -> -> Messages <- <- <- <- <- <- <><><><><><><><> New Subscribers <><><><><><><><><> Subject: New Subscriber La Mesa, CA Needs Help Selecting Trees From: Devin Harmon Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 12:24:48 -0700 Greetings! I'm hoping you can help me... I live in LaMesa in the grossmont area. I love fruit trees...we have: orange, tangerine, lemon, plum, avocado, pomogranite, persimmon, plum, fig, goji, lemon guava, and tangelo trees. Problem is that we do get frost about 10 nights a year so I'm in fear of growing some of the exotic varieties. Any recomendations for fruit tree varities that you could recommend is appreciated. I especially like guavas but am very open to trying other fruit trees. Avocados grow especially well in my area if that helps. My cell is 6199905582 if easier. Devin Harmon mailto:devinharmon@cox.net [I am publishing your letter in Rare Fruit News Online, and hopefully readers will have suggestions. -Leo] <><><><><><><><><> Readers Write<><><><><><><><><><> Subject: RE: Yellow Jaboticaba - Information Sought From: Oscar Jaitt Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 12:40:22 -1000 To: "Edward Musgrave" Hi Ed, I think you must be referring to Yellow Jaboticaba. In Spanish it is called cabelluda (Portuguese cabeluda), which means hairy, because of hairy exterior of fruit. Yes I am growing it and also sell seeds through the mail. It has a very nice taste. To me it tastes like apricot juice. The only drawback is that the fruit is rather small, about the size of a marble. So you have to eat a lot to get your fill. But the plant can be very productive, as you will see in photos below. Tends to bear shyly at first. Now I have available seeds of a particular brand new cultivar of Yellow Jaboticaba that produces fruits 25-50% bigger than regular yellow jaboticaba. Taste is the same, but fruit is bigger and seed is smaller, so lots more to eat. Anyone interested please email me at oscar@fruitlovers.com. The correct latin name for this fruit is Myrciaria glazioviana. See Harri Lorenzi's book, Brazilian Fruits. There has been a lot of confusion about the correct latin name, and it is often referred to still as Eugenia tomentosa or Myrciaria glomerata, but those 2 are actually totally different plants. You can see some photos on my website here: http://www.fruitlovers.com/Gallery1/Cabelluda.jpg http://www.fruitlovers.com/Gallery1/CabelludaFruitsOnTreeRipe.jpg http://www.fruitlovers.com/Gallery1/CabelludaFruitsOnTree.jpg http://www.fruitlovers.com/Gallery1/CabelludaFlowers.jpg Oscar Jaitt, Hawaii, Fruit Lover's Nursery, http://www.fruitlovers.com Oscar Jaitt mailto:fruitlovers@hotmail.com --------Edward Musgrave wrote > Subject: Yellow Jaboticaba - Information Sought > From: "Edward Musgrave" > Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 12:19:21 -0400 > > Does anyone know of a Yellow Jabadacaba tree? > > I need some information on the fruit what it tastes like how good > tasting it is. I have one about 5 ft tall in very good growth > that will probably fruit next April > > Edward Musgrave mailto:eamusg@tampabay.rr.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Pineapple Guava From: Roman Sosunov Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 11:15:04 -0700 (PDT) Hi, I am very interested in offering Pineapple Guava (feijoa) at our gourmet store but can seem to find any farms that grow it California. I heard its available in California but have yet find it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely Roman Sosunov mailto:cherryhillgourmet@yahoo.com Cherry Hill Gourmet ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Palm Pest From: "Allan Bredeson" Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 13:39:48 -1000 Red Palm Weevil, Worst Known Pest Of Palm Trees, Detected In Laguna Beach. Agricultural officials confirm first detection of palm tree pest in the United States SACRAMENTO, October 18, 2010 - Agricultural officials have confirmed the detection of a red palm weevil in the Laguna Beach area of Orange County - the first-ever detection of the pest in the United States. The weevil is considered to be the worlds worst pest of palm trees. An infestation typically results in the death of the tree. This invasive pest is a threat not only to our nursery growers and date palm farmers, said California Department of Food and Agriculture (CDFA) Secretary A.G. Kawamura. It also endangers all of the decorative palms that are so common in our landscape and so much a part of the classic California backdrop. I would like to express my gratitude to the landscape contractor who originally reported this pest. He is a Good Samaritan who did the right thing when he took the time to notify local agricultural authorities, and he has given us a very valuable head-start in our efforts. In response to the original contact by the landscaper, state and local agricultural officials, working in partnership with the USDA, began an extensive, door-to-door survey in the neighborhood and are setting about 250 traps to determine if an infestation exists. Protocols for this pest call for an initial survey covering a 1.5 square mile radius around the detection property, resulting in a trapping array covering nine square miles. The red palm weevil, scientific name Rhynchophorus ferrugineus, is a major pest of palm trees, many of which are highly valued as landscaping plants, generating approximately $70 million in nursery plant sales in California annually. Palm trees are also used for producing crops and marketable agricultural commodities including coconuts, dates and oils. In California, date palm growers harvest an annual crop worth approximately $30 million. The vast majority of these farms are in the Coachella Valley region. The red palm weevil is native to Southeast Asia and has spread throughout the Arabian Gulf. It is found in parts of Asia, Africa, the Middle East, Europe and Oceania. Prior to the detection in Orange County, the closest confirmed infestation to the United States was in the Dutch Antilles in 2009, the first report of the pest in the western hemisphere. It was also confirmed in Aruba in 2009. Female red palm weevils bore into a palm tree to form a hole into which they lay eggs. Each female may lay an average of 250 eggs, which take about three days to hatch. Larvae emerge and tunnel toward the interior of the tree, inhibiting the trees ability to transport water and nutrients upward to the crown. After about two months of feeding, larvae pupate inside the tree for an average of three weeks before the reddish-brown adults emerge. Adults live for two to three months, during which time they feed on palms, mate multiple times and lay eggs. Adult weevils are considered strong fliers, venturing more than a half-mile in search of host trees. With repeated flights over three to five days, weevils are reportedly capable of traveling nearly four-and-a-half miles from their hatch site. They are attracted to dying or damaged palms, but can also attack undamaged host trees. Symptoms of the weevil and the larval entry holes are often difficult to detect because the entry sites can be covered with offshoots and tree fibers. Careful inspection of infested palms may show holes in the crown or trunk, possibly along with oozing brown liquid and chewed fibers. In heavily infested trees, fallen pupal cases and dead adult weevils may be found around the base of the tree. Residents are encouraged to report suspect infestations by calling the CDFA Pest Hotline at 1-800-491-1899. Steve Lyle Director of Public Affairs California Department of Food & Agriculture (916) 654-0462 Allan Bredeson mailto:alinkona@hawaiiantel.net ------------------------------------------------ Subject: [HawaiiFruitlovers] Digest Number 10, 11 From: HawaiiFruitlovers@yahoogroups.com Date: 25 Oct 2010 07:36:20 -0000 See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HawaiiFruitlovers/ Hawaii Tropical Fruit Lovers 1a. Surinam cherries Posted by: "foodiesleuth" cubanwahine@hawaii.rr.com Sun Oct 24, 2010 2:39 pm (PDT) I have a new crop of Surinam cherries ready for harvest from one of our two trees....funny, one tree yielded the crop in the Spring and this one is now ready - I guess because we recently cut back a lot of the other growth that was keeping it crowded... Anyway, I want to know what others do with the cherries. Ours are the ones that are dark red/burgundy when ripe and are sweet. In the past I've made syrup, also vinaigrette using the syrup as a base and tried to make a jam that was a bit too thick (read solid) and had to be used as you would cranberry jelly from a can, by slicing it...but it was still delicious. Any other ideas? Sonia __ 1b. Re: Surinam cherries Posted by: "ken love" ken@mycoffee.net Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:47 pm (PDT) Something wrong with the jam then == maybe too much pectin? The students here make it all the time. They also freeze it in ramakins for ice cubes. Chef Paul makes juice into a curry. __ 1c. Re: Surinam cherries Posted by: "foodiesleuth" cubanwahine@hawaii.rr.com Sun Oct 24, 2010 6:02 pm (PDT) Ken, that is what surprised me All I added was sugar. No pectin! Would love to know how Chef Paul makes his curry using Surinam cherry juice! Sonia __ 1d. Re: Surinam cherries Posted by: "ken love" ken@mycoffee.net Sun Oct 24, 2010 6:14 pm (PDT) Yes, just surinam cherry juice. Can't understand why it would get so hard - we make surinam jelly a few times a year with no problems at all and with pectin. - 40% to 50% sugar Take care __ 1a. Re: Surinam cherries Posted by: "owanafarm" owanafarm@yahoo.com.mx Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:08 pm (PDT) It was boiled too long. Be sure and check with the cold saucer method. Some fruit needs very little boiling, almost until the sugar is melted. Terry Mexico 1b. Re: Surinam cherries Posted by: "foodiesleuth" cubanwahine@hawaii.rr.com Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:56 pm (PDT) Gracias, Terry....I think that might have been the problem....although we still enjoyed eating it! Sonia ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Source Of Grape Seeds Sought From: Maurice Kong Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 09:31:16 EDT Hi Leo: Hope you will be able to assist me. An overseas Rare Fruit member is interested in buying grape seeds of Thompson and Red Globe varieties for Indonesia. Any assistance you can offer will be appreciated. Thanks in advance Maurice mailto:CHINO228@aol.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Reminder: Macadamia Field Day - Nov. 6, 2010 From: "CE San Diego" Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 15:06:03 -0700 Hi everyone, This is just a reminder that the Macadamia Field Day is coming up on Saturday, November 6. The attached flyer contains information and the registration form. Best regards, Gary mailto:gsbender@ucdavis.edu Gary S. Bender, Ph.D. Farm Advisor Subtropical Horticulture University of California Cooperative Extension 151 E. Carmel Street San Marcos, CA 92078 (760) 752-4711 ------------------------------------------------ Subject: New spotted wing fruit fly Website From: "The Grower / Citrus + Vegetable" Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 04:02:42 -0700 In This Issue: ==New spotted wing fruit fly Website ==Florida registers insecticide/miticide New Website provides spotted wing fruit fly information Washington State University has launched a new one-stop source of information about the spotted wing drosphila at http://extension.wsu.edu/swd/Pages/default.aspx. Florida registers insecticide/miticide The Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services has registered Portal insecticide/miticide from Nichino America Inc. Wilmington, Del. ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Macadamia Field Day & Persimmon Picking Nov. 6, 7 From: Cielo & Kevin Date: Friday, October 29, 2010, 12:02 PM Sat. Nov. 6th 8:45 am to 1:30 pm, Bonsall: Macadamia Field Day Annual Field Day, Sat. Nov. 6th 8:45 am to 1:30 pm Garry & Patricia Prather 6686 via de la Reina, Bonsall Classes offered by UC Cooperative Extension in conjunction with the California Macadamia Society and the Gold Crown Macadamia Association. Open attachment (Macadamia flyer) for registration form (fee is $20 includes breakfast & lunch) or send the following with your $20 fee: your name, address, phone, email address to: California Macadamia Society P.O. Box 1298, Fallbrook CA 92088 questions: 760.728.8081 or visit www.macnuts.org/fieldday.htm Also Sun. Nov. 7th 10 am to 1 pm, Valley Center: Persimmon Picking Moondance Ranch (Pat & Linda Trussell) 26249 Oak Trail Rd., Valley Center CA 92082 Phone: 760.749.6857 Potluck lunch is optional; bring a dish to share. The ranch has several farm animals, and several fruit trees in addition to persimmon trees. Open attachment (Moondance Ranch Map) for directions from I-15. Cost is $0.65/lb (or $.50/lb for 50 lbs or more) Note: Bring your own pruner and bag(s). Wear appropriate clothes/shoes for walking on hillside terrain. No pets. Carpooling If there is enough interest, in carpooling to either or both events, contact Cielo Foth to help facilitate. Drivers: how many passengers can you take? Drivers/Riders: What is your nearest exit along I-15? Contact Cielo mailto:cielo92106@yahoo.com or by phone 619.818.0093. <><><><> Announcements And Web Pages To Consider <><><><> San Diego Chapter California Rare Fruit Growers Meeting: Where: Casa del Prado Building Room 101, Balboa Park When: Fourth Wednesday Of Each Month (Except December) See: http://www.crfgsandiego.org http://nc.crfgsandiego.org For North County CRFG Chapter Meeting http://www.crfg.org/chapters.html For information about ALL CRFG chapters. <> Agricultural Research Service (ARS) mailto:news@arsgrin.gov <> http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/thelatest.htm. None this time <><><><><><><><><> End of RFN201011A.txt <><><><><><><><><><> Rare Fruit News Online - November 15, 2010 - AKA RFN201011B.txt _______________________________________________________________ <><><><> Notes In Passing - Leo <><><><> None this time <><><><><><><><><> Table Of Contents <><><><><><><><><> -> -> -> Messages follow this Table Of Contents <- <- <- <><><> New Subscribers <><><> New Subscriber - San Anselmo, CA - Want Pitayas Maggie Evans <><><> Readers Write <><><> Nutrition Data For Tropical Fruits Online Bob Holzinger Following Developing Pitaya Grown On Sun Porch Brian Carroll Wanted: Grape and Weeping Mulberry Plants S.D. Area Eliana Uretsky Seedless Guava Information Sought For San Diego Nasmurphy Fw: Avocado tree Edward Musgrave To: Bill Annual Citrus Fruit Display & Tasting Dec 10-11 Anita M Hunt" Nov CRFG Newsletter - Meeting Election TUES 11/16/10! Dawn Martin Nov. Newsletter of the N.County San Diego Chapter Of CRFG secetary nickerson -> -> -> -> -> -> Messages <- <- <- <- <- <- <><><><><><><><> New Subscribers <><><><><><><><><> Subject: New Subscriber - San Anselmo, CA - Want Pitayas From: Maggie Evans Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 17:40:39 -0800 It would be great if you could add me to your email list. I live in San Anselmo, CA , a little north of San Francisco. I'm interested in finding the dragon fruit plant as well as trying to find out where to buy the fruit itself. Very difficult to find and I've looked in numerous Asian and Latino markets. Thank you- Maggie Evans mailto:evans200@earthlink.net <><><><><><><><><> Readers Write<><><><><><><><><><> Subject: Nutrition Data For Tropical Fruits Online From: "Bob Holzinger" Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 14:06:34 -0400 Hey Leo, I was looking around on Ken Love's website and came across some nutritional data sheets for a lot of tropical fruits. If you haven't seen them, here's the link: http://www.hawaiifruit.net/fruitdata/fruitdata_1of4.html Bob mailto:bob.holzinger@Ambrx.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Following Developing Pitaya Grown On Sun Porch From: Brian Carroll Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 21:04:59 -0800 (PST) Leo, After enjoying your newsletter for quite some time, I am finally able to offer you some content. Several years ago I visited you in San Diego and you gave me a dragon fruit cutting which I've grown on a sun porch here in Visalia (Tulare Co., California). This year it surprised me with its first blossom, which I hand pollinated, and the fruit of which I ate tonight. I realize this would be a very unremarkable accomplishment for many people on your mailing list, but it tickled me enough to document the process with three posts on my blog, beginning here: http://blog.briantcarroll.com/2010/09/one-night-stand-with-chinese-dragon.html Thank you for getting the newsletter out, and for the dragon fruit start which is now taking up one whole corner of my sun-room. Brian T. Carroll mailto:bcarroll49@yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Wanted: Grape and Weeping Mulberry Plants S.D. Area From: Eliana Uretsky Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 01:08:22 -0800 (PST) Greetings, I am looking for the following: a Venus grape that is at least 1-2 years old and a seedless green American hybrid variety. Not necessarily bare root. A well-developed weeping mulberry at wholesale/low price. Also, for anyone interested in native plants (I know, it's a different org), come help us plant the natives garden (Includes some edibles) at Southwestern College's South Bay Botanical Garden. Date tentatively set for December 4. CAll 619-822-5761 for more info or re: any of the above. Eliana Uretsky mailto:goeliana@yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Seedless Guava Information Sought For San Diego From: Nasmurphy Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 22:20:41 -0500 Hi Leo, I was wondering if you or any of the readers have knowledge of seedless guavas. How is their flavor/texture compared to their seeded friends; do they grow in San Diego, CA USA (zone 9-ish); where can a tree be purchased (is there more than one cultivar of seedless), are there producing trees in San Diego, is there anywhere near San Diego to buy fresh fruit in order to sample before planting, etc. I absolutely love the look, smell, flavor and texture of guavas, and the ability to eat them out of hand. However, I just can't tolerate the seeds. My teeth are very sensitive and I've bitten down just a little too hard too many times no matter how careful I am. Any replies would be appreciated and can be included in the newsletter or sent to mailto:nasmurphy@aol.com. Thank you! Stephanie Murphy mailto:nasmurphy@aol.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Avocado tree Scion Available From: "Edward Musgrave" Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 07:14:46 -0500 To: Bill Hi Bill Will you be coming by for some Avocado graft wood? I have a whole limb you can have it is on the roof with a ladder near. Let me know if you get this letter and will be coming by. Ed mailto:eamusg@tampabay.rr.com ------------------------------------------------ -- Forwarded From Joe Sabol -- From: "Anita M Hunt" Subject: Annual Citrus Fruit Display & Tasting Dec 10-11 Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 08:33:11 -0800 (PST) University of California, Lindcove Research and Extension Center Citrus Fruit Display and Tasting Event December 10-11, 2010 The University of California, Lindcove Research and Extension Center is hosting their annual Citrus Fruit Display in December. During the Citrus Fruit Display day, you can see and taste more than 100 citrus varieties that are grown at Lindcove. Citrus growers are invited to attend the Citrus Fruit Display and Tasting on Friday December 10 th starting at 10:00 A.M. Join us in participating in a sensory taste test with Mary Lu Arpaia, UC Riverside Botany & Plant Sciences Researcher stationed at Kearney Ag Center & David Obenland, a USDA ARS Researcher stationed in Parlier. Culminating the day is a tour at 1:00 P.M of the Citrus Demonstration Trees by Tracy Kahn, Senior Museum Scientist (UC Riverside). This tour will allow you to see the growth of the trees that produced the varieties displayed in the conference center. Researchers and extension personnel will be present to answer your questions. This is an excellent opportunity to taste and evaluate citrus selections. The general public is invited to visit on Saturday, December 11 th , for Citrus Fruit Display and Tasting from 9:00 A.M. to 12:00 P.M. Master Gardeners and UC Extension personnel will be happy to answer questions from home gardeners and citrus connoisseurs. Join us in participating in a sensory taste test with Mary Lu Arpaia, UC Riverside Botany & Plant Sciences Researcher stationed at Kearney Ag Center & David Obenland, a USDA ARS Researcher stationed at Parlier. This is an excellent opportunity to taste, evaluate, and learn the names of your favorite citrus varieties. Directions : Take Highway 198 east to Mehrten Drive (approximately 15 miles) and follow the signs to our Event. The University of Lindcove Research and Extension Center is located at 22963 Carson Avenue Exeter, CA. The Education Building is located at the end of Carson Avenue. If you have any questions please contact Anita Hunt at 559-592-2408 ext 151. Anita M Hunt mailto:amdhunt@ucdavis.edu ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Nov CRFG Newsletter - Meeting Election TUES 11/16/10! From: Dawn Martin Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 14:16:08 -0800 (PST) This month our Chapter meeting will be on Tuesday. November 16th due to Thanksgiving the following week. This will be Election Night for our 2011 Officers and Board of Directors, so please make sure that anyone interested in voting is current on both their CRFG Inc. and SD Chapter membership. Be sure to pick up your ballot from the Membership table the night of the meeting. The introduction of candidates and election will occur before the presentation for the evening. I will be giving a short presentation of deciduous fruit tree pruning following the election. This subject is quite involved, so if you are interested in my perspective on this subject, I have several presentations on fruit tree pruning posted on our Chapter website. I will also be teaching a 6 week short course at Southwestern College on fruit tree pruning again in 2011 (Jan. 13 - Feb. 26 Thurs. night 6-8 P.M. and Sat. afternoon 3:30-5:30). You can enroll at the Southwestern College website at www.swccd.edu or by calling SW College at (619) 421-6700. Good news on converting the Chapter membership to a January-December interval. This was widely accepted by our members and voted on and approved by the Board at the Nov. Board meeting. We will be converting to this during the 2011 renewals and it should be in place starting 2012. We also discussed the need to raise the local Chapter membership by $5.00 per year (increasing Chapter membership from $13.00/yr. to $18.00/yr.) in order to cover the increasing costs of operating the Chapter, purchasing supplies, and to better balance the budget for the Chapter so that we are not operating in the red. (Our budget has a projected deficit of $600.00 for 2010.) Since members who receive their newsletter by postal mail incur additional costs for the Chapter, it is proposed that those members who choose to receive their newsletter by postal mail instead of e-mail will by charged an extra $6.00 per year (that is only .50 cents per month) in addition to the $5.00 yearly increase. It is suggested that this increase begin in January 2011. To increase the value of Chapter membership, we are in the process of adding an additional membership benefit for SD Chapter members. We will be announcing new benefit program at the Holiday Potluck on Dec. 17th, 2010. If you have any questions or comments on this subject, we want your input. Please put your comments in the Suggestion Tree at the Chapter meeting or mail your comments to our P.O. Box. (CRFG San Diego Chapter, P.O. Box 152943, San Diego, CA. 92195-2943) You can also give your input to any Board member. The Board will be discussing this dues increase at the Dec. Board meeting on Wed Dec. 1st. 2010. Start Meeting On Time - There are many parts to the monthly Chapter meetings. One very important part that sometimes fails to be recognized for its importance is the initial Hospitality Period at the beginning of each meeting. This hospitality period is a time for members to greet each other, socialize, ask questions, share experiences, and have fun with one another. It is a time for new visitors and new members who are not familiar with our meetings or organization to get their bearings, ask questions, meet Chapter members and learn about the Chapter, the meetings and the organization. This period also gives the Membership Committee time to sign up new Chapter members and the Hospitality Committee time to make visitors, guests and members feel welcome. Although I do not formally call the meeting to order until approximately 7:15, this Hospitality Period does start promptly at 7:00. I feel this is an essential aspect to our meetings to help promote a friendly, welcoming and fun atmosphere at our monthly meetings. If you do not wish to participate in this hospitality and social portion of our monthly meeting, please plan to arrive at 7:15. I will continue to call the meeting to order and begin the business portion of the meeting at approximately 7:15-7:20. Sincerely, Tom Del Hotal Secretary's Report by Cielo Foth At the October 27th General Meeting Nominees Candidate for position of Chapter Chair: Tom Del Hotal Jim Neitzel (for Vice-Chair) Treasurer: Erik Collins, Cielo Foth (for Secretary) Mark Bendixen for Secretary San Diego CRFG Board Contact Info: Chair: Tom Del Hotal Upcoming Events at a Glance 11/16 - 7 pm General Meeting & Election of Officers 12/17 - 6:30pm CRFG-SD General Meeting & Holiday Potluck Dawn Martin mailto:craftyharper@yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Nov. Newsletter of the N.County San Diego Chapter Of CRFG Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:00:44 -0800 (PST) From: secetary nickerson Cherimoya Varieties origin characteristics Bayes James Bayes, Ventura CA 1920 Tree broad 20 ft.; fruit are round, medium sized, light green, flavor very good almost lemony Big Sister Jim Neitzel, San Diego CA 1979 Fruits very large, very smooth, good flavor; often self fruitful Booth A. F. Booth Hollywood CA 1921 One of hardiest of Cherimoyas; fruit conical, medium sized rather seedy, flavor suggests papaya Chafee A M Chafee, West LA CA 1945 Small fast growing tree; fruit small with lemony flavor El Bumpo Villa Park CA 1986 Fruit conical, medium sized, flavor is one of the finest, bumps diminish commercial use McPherson McPherson, Spain Tree pyramidal, vigorous to 30 ft.; fruit is small to medium, conical , dark green, flavor suggests banana Nata George Emerich Fallbrook CA 1983 Tree vigorous, bears quickly, tendency to self pollinating; fruits are slim, light green, conical,1 to 2 Lbs, flavor has good sweet/acid balance Pierce Mexico Tree vigorous; fruit medium sized, conical, high sugar content White J C Victor Lemon Grove CA 1928 Tree open, vigorous, best near coast, fruit, conical, large to 4 lbs, flavor weak suggesting Mango & papaya In conjunction with showing the video on growing lychee, Dr. Bender passed out a paper Growing Lychee in Hawaii this is a very good paper, it not only covers growing and pruning lychee but has a good treatment of air layering. This paper is available on the internet at www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/oc/freepubs/pdf/N_2.pdf you can get all the info there so I won't repeat it here. If some of our USPS customers have a real interest in growing lychee and can not access the internet, if you will call your editor I will arrange to get you a copy. Nov. Meeting: We will meet Nov. 19th at 7PM in room 7003 of the Horticultural building of MCC Oceanside campus. This will be our annual planning meeting where members participate in planning the chapter's agenda for 2011. Members bring your ideas for new and different topics, field trips etc. Members are asked to bring fruit or fruit products for tasting and/or recipes to share; as time will be allotted for socializing and fruit tasting. Ben Pierce will give a talk on "Growing A Food Forest" A food forest is a sustainable low input agricultural system developed by Robert Hart. It is modeled on methods used by the ancient peoples of Meso-America to grow food, fiber, and medicinals for their use. The talk will be an abbreviated overview with some general ideas. Dec. Meeting: This is our annual Christmas potluck. Please RSVP to Dottie Logan at 760 806 6678 by Friday Dec. 10th. We will meet on Dec. 12 in the Alta Vista Botanical Garden building which is located in Brengle Terrace Park in Vista. As you drive towards the park on Brengle Terrace Dr, proceeding from East Vista Way there are 2 entrances. The first one is at 1200 the second at 1400. Enter at the second entrance which takes you past the Senior Center, continue to the top of the hill where you will see a sign directing you to the Alta Vista Botanical Garden, which is on the left. Plan to arrive between 11:30 and 12 Noon. Bring a potluck dish to share, and the serving utensil. The committee will provide the turkey, ham, and drinks as well as paper plates and plastic for eating. We will do a Chinese Auction gift exchange. You can bring a plant or other garden related gift that has a value of $10.00 or more. We will have plastic bags for the plants to keep the house clean. All other gifts should be wrapped. Meetings: 3rd Friday, 7 PM at Mira Costa College One Bernard Dr., Oceanside in Room 7003 of the Horticultural Bldg... Harry Nickerson mailto:crfg@sbcglobal.net CRFG N. San Diego County Chap. 1815 Yettford Rd. Vista CA 92083 Ben Pierce Chair 7607444716 mailto:ncsdcrfg@cox.net Chapter website: nc.crfgsandiego.org Harry nickerson mailto:crfg@sbcglobal.net <><><><> Announcements And Web Pages To Consider <><><><> San Diego Chapter California Rare Fruit Growers Meeting: Where: Casa del Prado Building Room 101, Balboa Park When: Fourth Wednesday Of Each Month (Except December) See: http://www.crfgsandiego.org http://nc.crfgsandiego.org For North County CRFG Chapter Meeting http://www.crfg.org/chapters.html For information about ALL CRFG chapters. <><><> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HawaiiFruitlovers/ <><><> [HawaiiFruitlovers] Digest Numbers xx, yy HawaiiFruitlovers@yahoogroups.com To: HawaiiFruitlovers@yahoogroups.com> None this time <> Agricultural Research Service (ARS) mailto:news@arsgrin.gov <> http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/thelatest.htm. None this time <><><><><><><><><> End of RFN201011B.txt <><><><><><><><><><> Rare Fruit News Online - December 1, 2010 - AKA RFN201012A.txt ______________________________________________________________ <><><><> Notes In Passing - Leo <><><><> Southern California has seen earlier cold weather with some frost. How has it affected your trees and garden? I am concerned about the future months of the winter that are usually colder. Has Florida had unusual frost yet? This issue is pretty thin, which is understandable. Please write as you can when you think of anything that might be of interest. Did you install a water storage tank? This would have been a great year to have had one. How about a new variety of fruit tree - deciduous or not? By no means is Tahati squash a rare fruit, but I have been greatly impressed with the uses one can make of it. Betty has put it in soups, pies, even in jam! The squash keeps well over the winter if kept in a cool place. San Diego CRFG Meeting and Christmas Pot Luck Dec. 17 6:30 pm The December Holiday Potluck Celebration is a highlight for our Chapter. The members and the Board of the San Diego Chapter would would love to have you come join in our festivities, good food and good company. The Chapter will be providing roast turkey and members who attend bring an assortment of side dishes, desserts and beverages. If you can join us, please bring a dish of your choice for all to share. We hope you can make this wonderful celebration of the season and Seasons Greetings to you and your family. Tom Del Hotal - Chair - mailto:info@crfgsandiego.org We will be pruning some of our deciduous fruit vines and trees. Remember that you can cut pieces into small pieces and store in the refrigerator until the January scion exchange meeting. Grape vines, fig and pomegranate, and some mulberry tree pieces will grow from cuttings about a foot in length, and can be stored as well. We have two 'Giant Fuyus' that bear well but are quite different from each other. One is a larger version of the usual Fuyu, but the other is more nearly spherical. I want to graft one onto the other. Do you know whether either is graft-compatible with the other? Do you know the names of the two varieties? I like the flatter in shape one more and I want to graft some of it onto the spherical one. Be sure to read "Uses of Jaboticaba": Juice, Liquer, Discussed in Hawaii Fruit Lovers Group near the end of the newsletter. And, please write to help keep the newsletter going, if you can. Happy Holidays, and Thanks for your support! <><><><><><><><><> Table Of Contents <><><><><><><><><> -> -> -> Messages follow the Table Of Contents <- <- <- <><><> New Subscribers <><><> None this time <><><> Readers Write <><><> Mexican Avocados Bear In Tropics? What Pollinators? Gerardo Garcia RE: Mexican Avocados Bear In Tropics? What Pollinators? Julie Frink To: Gerardo Garcia Ramis RE: Mexican Avocados Bear In Tropics? What Pollinators? Gerardo Garcia To: Julie Frink FWD: CRFG - Fruit Tree Pruning Workshop K Lakomy -> -> -> -> -> -> Messages <- <- <- <- <- <- <><><><><><><><> New Subscribers <><><><><><><><><> None this time <><><><><><><><><> Readers Write <><><><><><><><><><> Subject: Mexican Avocados Bear In Tropics? What Pollinators? From: gerardo garcia Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 12:12:54 -0500 Dear Leo: Does anyone out there know whether Mexican avocados will bear in a tropical climate? I have two seedlings from Hass avocados and have been wondering about planting them out, but don't want to waste space if they won't bear fruit. Also, would West Indian race trees nearby pollinate them? Gerardo Garcia Ramis mailto:manilkara@hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: RE: Mexican Avocados Bear In Tropics? What Pollinators? From: Julie Frink Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 18:00:17 +0000 To: "Gerardo Garcia Ramis" The Hass avocado is 85% Guatemalan and 15% Mexican. A seedling of the Hass will be different than the Hass and the pollen parent of the seedling will make a difference as to race genetics. West Indians will pollinate Mexican, Guatemalan avocados and crosses. I have heard that the Hass doesn't do as well in very tropical areas as in areas like California. The only thing you can do is plant the seedlings and see what happens or plant them and graft them over to local avocado varieties that you like. Julie Frink mailto:jrfavodata@hotmail.com Avocado Specialist CRFG ------------------------------------------------ Subject: RE: Mexican Avocados Bear In Tropics? What Pollinators? From: Gerardo Garcia Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 15:27:03 -0500 To: "Julie Frink" I appreciate your prompt response, wasn't expecting one until Leo's next newsletter! Though I'm aware these seedlings won't bear Hass avocados, since West indians require A & B types, I thought a similar mechanism might work for Hass, was unaware they were mostly Guatemalan. I'm in the foothills of the El Yunque rainforest at about 1,000 ft., so it's not strictly tropical, will give it a try. Thanks for the insight. Gerardo Garcia Ramis mailto:manilkara@hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: FWD: CRFG - Fruit Tree Pruning Workshop From: K Lakomy Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 16:01:42 -0800 (PST) To: karencrfg@pacbell.net Fellow gardeners, Here is a timely workshop for honing your pruning technique spotted by CRFG member Cielo Foth. (Thanks, Cielo!) -Leo Karen Lakomy mailto:karencrfg@pacbell.net Membership Committee _____ Subject: Fruit Tree Pruning Workshop - Saturday, December 4 From: CE San Diego Date: Tuesday, November 23, 2010, 4:48 PM Hi everyone, Here's a great opportunity to gain 'hands on' practice pruning fruit trees properly. The workshop is Saturday, December 4, 2010 in National City. Please see the attached flyer for registration information and more details. David A. Shaw mailto:dshaw@ucdavis.edu Farm Advisor U.C. Cooperative Extension 151 E. Carmel Street San Marcos, CA 92078 (760) 752-4720 752-4725 fax University of California Cooperative Extension and The Professional Tree Care Association of San Diego Present: Saturday-December4,2010 FruitTreePruningSeminarforProfessionals Please join us at the Stein Family Farm in National City for hands-on demonstrations and in-the-field practice to increase your knowledge and proficiency in dormant pruning practices for fruit trees. The Seminar will feature Dr. Gary Bender, Farm Advisor, UCCE San Diego County; Kurt Peacock, Consulting Arborist, Peacock Consulting; and David Shaw, Farm Advisor, UCCE San Diego County We will meet at 9:30 for coffee and light refreshments. Following practical training exercises, we will undertake the pruning of the apricot, plum, citrus, avocado, and apple trees on the property. This is a great opportunity to learn how and why fruit trees are pruned differently than typical landscape trees. Registration includes continental breakfast, refreshments, handouts, and CEU hours. What to bring: Hand pruners, loppers, and gloves. Location: The Stein Family Farm 1808 F. Avenue National City, CA 91950 Date: Saturday -December 4, 2010 Time: 9:30 am to Noon Cost: $25.00 Register On-Line or by Mail To attend the Fruit Tree Pruning Seminar, please register on-line with your credit card at the UCCE website: http://cesandiego.ucdavis.edu/ (Look at the 'Calendar' for the Seminar Announcement.) For a direct link to the registration and payment page click REGISTRATION. Or, to register by mail: Send your name, address, email, and check made out to 'U.C. Regents' to: Fruit Tree Pruning Seminar, UC Cooperative Extension, 151 E. Carmel St., San Marcos, CA, 92078 Questions, or Assistance? Call David Shaw at 760-752-4720 or University of California Cooperative Extension; 151 E. Carmel Street San Marcos, CA 92078 San Marcos, CA 92078( (760) 752-4720 (760) 752-4725 fax David A. Shaw mailto:dshaw@ucdavis.edu <><><><> Announcements And Web Pages To Consider <><><><> San Diego Chapter California Rare Fruit Growers Meeting: Where: Casa del Prado Building Room 101, Balboa Park When: 7:00 p.m. Fourth Wednesdays Each Month January­October See: http://www.crfgsandiego.org http://nc.crfgsandiego.org For North County CRFG Chapter Meeting http://www.crfg.org/chapters.html For information about ALL CRFG chapters. <><><> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HawaiiFruitlovers/ <><><> [HawaiiFruitlovers] Digest Numbers 28 HawaiiFruitlovers@yahoogroups.com From: HawaiiFruitlovers@yahoogroups.com Date: 19 Nov 2010 15:14:15 -0000 To: HawaiiFruitlovers@yahoogroups.com Hawaii Tropical Fruit Lovers Things to make with Jaboticabas From: fruitlovers Posted by: "Oscar Jaitt" aka fruitlovers Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:23 pm (PST) This year got a bumper crop of jaboticabas. As I mentioned before have been pressing them in a hydraulic press to make juice. The juice is very attractive pink cloudy color, as you can see here: http://www.fruitlovers.com/Gallery1/JaboticabaJuiceAndBowl.jpg You can also juice them manually using a metal colander and a wooden or plastic rod. I used the push stick that comes with my champion juicer, but you can also use a 1.5 inch wooden dowel, or even a 2x4 piece of lumber. Place a bowl under the colander and put everything inside your sink. I tried it and it worked quite well: http://www.fruitlovers.com/Gallery1/JaboticabasPressedInColander.jpg The other thing I have tried making is a jaboticaba liqueur, using the squeezed fruits, 100% alcohol, water, and brown sugar, with the recipe that Paul Recher gave me. Will let you know in a few months how it turns out. If anybody has other ideas of what to do with these fruits please let me know. The jaboticabas ripen very fast and all have to be used within 4-5 days. Has anyone tried drying them? Oscar Jaitt mailto:fruitlovers@gmail.com <> Agricultural Research Service (ARS) mailto:news@arsgrin.gov <> http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/thelatest.htm. None this time <><><><><><><><><> End of RFN201012A.txt <><><><><><><><><><> Rare Fruit News Online - December 15, 2010 - AKA RFN201012B.txt _______________________________________________________________ <><><><> Notes In Passing - Leo <><><><> None this time <><><><><><><><><> Table Of Contents <><><><><><><><><> -> -> -> Messages follow the Table Of Contents <- <- <- <><><> New Subscribers <><><> New Subscriber-So Cal; Pakistani Mulberry Question kris haghi <><><> Readers Write <><><> Jaboticaba - More Uses For Fruit Oscar Jaitt Report From Madeira Island (Portugal) Vital Scherrer Papaya In Winter Problem But Sweet Potato Success "Pat Wolff" Taste of Pawpaw (ASIMINA TRILOBA) Fruit Vital Scherrer Re: Taste of Pawpaw (ASIMINA TRILOBA) Fruit Leo Manuel To: Vital Scherrer PawPaws In Southern California - Who's Been Successful? Leo Manuel To: Roger Meyer (CA) Re: PawPaws In Southern California - Who's Been Successful? Roger Meyer Re: PawPaws In Southern California Leo Manuel To: Roger Meyer Re: PawPaws In Southern California Roger Meyer PawPaw Fruit Facts (CRFG) Extract Leo Japanese Persimmon - Another Useful Guide Leo Manuel Oriental Persimmons Leo Manuel Dec CRFG S.D. Holiday Potluck Dinner Fri. Dec. 7 Dawn Martin -> -> -> -> -> -> Messages <- <- <- <- <- <- <><><><><><><><> New Subscribers <><><><><><><><><> Subject: New Subscriber-So Cal; Pakistani Mulberry Question From: kris haghi Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 20:48:34 -0600 Hi, My family is new to the Fallbrook area and have planted 140 fruit trees this summer and probably 100 fruiting vines. We were told this summer was unusual because of the early rains this August and then heat afterwards. Does anyone else have confused trees and had mulberries, apples, etc. blooming in August. We have planted larger trees and many came with fruit already set on them. The Pakistani mulberries had beautiful 4" long berries this spring and again in August, I just wondered it this was a fluke. Thanks Kris Haghi mailto:khaghi@hotmail.com [My Pakistani mulburry tree also bore a second smaller crop this fall. Could it have been the strange cool summer? -Leo] <><><><><><><><><> Readers Write<><><><><><><><><><> Subject: My Mexicola Grande Avocado - Hardy To 18 degrees! From: "Edward Musgrave" Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 16:59:30 -0500 Hi Leo Our club in Tampabay Area November meeting had a Avocado grafting meeting , they used my Mexicola Grande avocado as a budwood I seem to have the only on in our area . It can stand 18 degrees w/o any damagre It is a small one 18 onces black skin Lt brown flesh with a buttery flavor it can be stored in refrigerator no damage but the fruit cannot be shipped because of thin skin. Ed Musgrave in Brandon FL mailto:eamusg@tampabay.rr.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Jaboticaba - More Uses For Fruit From: Oscar Jaitt Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 19:04:34 -1000 Hi Leo, Here is a response I got to my jaboticaba uses question on the Yahoo rarefruit group, in case you missed it: Things to make with Jaboticabas This was all I could find on file Oscar. The nicest way I prefer is a Jabot liqueur. Sheryl Jaboticaba Wine 3kg Jaboticaba fruit 1.5 kg sugar dissolved in 1 litre of boiling water 10 drops pectinol or pectinase 1 tsp citric acid 1 tsp yeast nutrient yeast starter water to 5 litres Campden tablet Wash fruit, hand crush in 2 litres of boiled water and add a Campden tablet. Leave for 24 hours then add another 2 litres of water and the pectinase. Leave for 24 hours. Add the sugar syrup, citric acid, yeast nutrient and yeast starter and stir the must daily for 3-4 days. Sieve into a demijohn and add airlock. Rack and adjust sugar as necessary. Jaboticaba Caipirinha Ice Vodka Sugar and crushed jaboticabas George Allen: We have been drying them and they are not bad if dried to the level of a prune but they dry right down and are hard to chew. Some people like them but others don't. They freeze really well. They also make an excellent jelly/jam. Wash them in a 20 ltr bucket with a hose to remove all the flower parts and leave. Drain off the water and leaving them in the bucket use a paint mixer in an electric drill to pulverize them. Boil the resulting pulp/juice until you get the colour you like (the more you boil the more colour and astringency, but its not bad) Strain out the juice, add sugar, (I used about 500 gms/ltr of juice) and boil until drops of the mix jell on a cold plate. It's an excellent jam, better than any of the commercial ones I've tasted except perhaps for some of the blackcurrant jams that use to be available of which it is the equal. The juice might also be worth straining and keeping using this technique. The fruit also freeze well. Oscar mailto:fruitlovers@hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Report From Madeira Island (Portugal) From: Vital Scherrer Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 10:45:23 +0000 Hi Leo, I am not familiar with these two particular 'Giant Fuyus'. But why do you think that the two might not be graft-compatible? As far as I know there is only a graft-compatibility problem between some non-astringent cultivars and the different Diospyros species. It is most unlikely that there is such an issue with two cultivars of the same species. Over here, at least most of the Oriental Persimmons are grafted onto D. lotus. We had a relatively low-chill winter - much less of the cold nights, but less warm days than usual as well. Many plum trees have been flowering as late as in June - and hardly any fruit. Yet most of my non low-chill apple trees fruited reasonably well - some, like the 'Ashmeads Kernel', even for the first time with about ten years of age. The 'Laxton's Epicure' fruited again, but it is not as early as e.g. 'Anna'. > From: rarefruit@san.rr.com > To: vital233@hotmail.com > Subject: Rare Fruit News Online - December 1, 2010 > Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 11:11:42 -0800 > We have two 'Giant Fuyus' that bear well but are quite > different from each other. One is a larger version of the > usual Fuyu, but the other is more nearly spherical. I want > to graft one onto the other. Do you know whether either is > graft-compatible with the other? Do you know the names of > the two varieties? I like the flatter in shape one more > and I want to graft some of it onto the spherical one. Best wishes, and a tranquil shopping-mania season! Vital mailto:vital233@hotmail.com Madeira island (Portugal) Zone 10b Sunset H1 ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Papaya In Winter Problem But Sweet Potato Success From: "Pat Wolff" Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 11:12:08 -0800 Leo, we have tried growing papaya this year, amazing and sort of sad. They grow so big so fast! We could just see where someting different was happening, maybe a flower?, when we started getting frost. We live in Arcadia, 20 miles east of downtown LA. We were throwing bedsheets over the plants every night, but one night either it was colder, or the sheets being slightly damp that night, or the cumulative effects of frost has taken a toll. Now we are trying plastic sheeting, but it's even poorer. Phooey! We won't cut them down til they are really dead, maybe they will recover. We had huge success with sweet potato yams. They make a lot of vine, but we got a wheelbarrow full just from one vine, and we have 3 vines! The vines all froze, but the tubers are ok. Now I don't know how to store them? Pat Wolff mailto:partwolff@yahoo.com [Alice Snow tells me that you will get fewer but larger sweet potatoes if you only let the vines touch the ground at the base of the mother plant. Makes sense, but I haven't tried it. Has anyone else tried it? Also, I have heard that it the wet and cold soil is a fatal combination for Papaya. They must have very good drainage. -Leo] > On Dec 1, 2010 11:11 AM, Leo Manuel wrote: > Southern California has seen earlier cold weather with some > frost. How has it affected your trees and garden? I am > concerned about the future months of the winter that are > usually colder. Has Florida had unusual frost yet? ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Taste of Pawpaw (ASIMINA TRILOBA) Fruit From: Vital Scherrer Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 12:30:05 +0000 P.S. I also wanted to mention that one of my pawpaw trees, actually one of the seedlings, has fruited for the first time this year as well. So I was able to taste them for the first time in my life. I asked my wife to taste them and mentioned that Down Under they are also known as custard banana (as pawpaw is their name for papaya). She replied: "Banana? It tastes more like mango." I agree, as both types of fruit can have a slightly turpentiny taste, though this may vary depending on the cultivar. But, as far as the texture of the pulp goes, "custard" is pretty accurate. Vital mailto:vital233@hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Re: Taste of Pawpaw (ASIMINA TRILOBA) Fruit From: Leo Manuel Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2010 12:27:12 -0800 To: Vital Scherrer Thanks for writing! I haven't been able to get a pawpaw in my hands to taste for several years. In my twenties I had some in the midwest and found the flavor variable. Some were not very good, and a few were not bad. Much later, I ate fruit from improved varieties that were quite good, and your description is accurate to me for texture and taste. On the persimmons, I heard once that some were not compatible, but I don't remember. I think I'll try it anyway. On my giant fuyu with more spherical fruit, I once successfully grafted a black persimmon aka black sapote that survived and bloomed for at least ten years. What's odd is I got that scion wood for a black sapote tree I wanted to improve, and the scion fail to grow on it. Happy Holly Daze! Leo ------------------------------------------------ Subject: PawPaws In Southern California - Who's Been Successful? From: Leo Manuel To: Roger Meyer (CA) Date: Sat, December 4, 2010 8:47:10 AM Hi Roger, I was just now talking to Jim Neitzel about how few people in Southern California have been successful in growing pawpaws and he reminded me that you have some for sale. Can you tell me of anyone in S. Cal. who has gotten them to bear in any quantity? I would like to put your answer in the newsletter, Rare Fruit News Online, as I am sure several people will be interested. Thanks! Leo Manuel ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Re: PawPaws In Southern California - Who's Been Successful? From: Roger Meyer Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 12:40:29 -0800 (PST) Leo, I am in Arizona at the moment but can still answer. I have perhaps 30 paw paws in the ground at my farm in Valley Center. We get plenty of fruit every year on them. They are planted out in full sun with no problems. I do have about 15 left for sale in 9 inch deep pots. These are about ready to go dormant. Roger mailto:xotcfruit@yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Re: PawPaws In Southern California From: Leo Manuel Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2010 13:44:54 -0800 To: Roger Meyer Hi Roger, What varieties are they? Grafted or Seedlings? Who else do you know that has them growing? Are there special requirements for them to do well? How much do they cost? Thanks!! Leo ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Re: PawPaws In Southern California From: Roger Meyer Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 19:10:04 -0800 (PST) I charge $25 each plus the shipping. I do not know of anyone else growing as many as I have. One of the Orange County Chapter members, Charlie Shiff, I think grows a few as well as Charlie Portney in Santa Monica. Mine have been in the ground for up to 12-15 years. Roger mailto:xotcfruit@yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------ Subject: PawPaw Fruit Facts (CRFG) Extract From: Leo Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/pawpaw.html Adaptation: The pawpaw is adapted to the humid continental climate of its native habitat. It is seldom found near the Atlantic or Gulf coasts. It requires a minimum of 400 hours of winter chill and at least 160 frost-free days. Pawpaws appear to be sensitive to low humidities, dry winds and cool maritime summers. It has been successfully grown in parts of California and the Pacific Northwest that meet its growing requirements. It has grown well in the San Jose area (USDA Climate Zone 9 or Sunset Climate Zone 15). The climatic conditions of Southern California make growing the pawpaw there more difficult. The deep winter dormancy of the tree makes it highly frost tolerant, withstanding temperatures of -25° F or lower (hardy to USDA Climate Zone 5). Pawpaws can be grown as container specimens, although this is not often practiced. A deep pot is needed to accommodate the root system. ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Japanese Persimmon - Another Useful Guide From: Leo Manuel Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2010 13:56:57 -0800 http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/morton/japanese_persimmon.html ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Oriental Persimmons From: Leo Manuel Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 07:52:28 -0800 http://www.plantanswers.com/garden_column/jan04/3.htm Milberger's Nursery and Landscaping 3920 North Loop 1604 E. San Antonio, TX 78247 Phone 210.497.3760 mailto:nursery@milbergersa.com Oriental Persimmons The oriental persimmon (Diospyros kaki Linn) is native to China and has been grown and selected in China, Korea, and Japan for over 1,000 years. There it is a favored food, producing ornamental and orchard crops. There are over 1,000 named cultivars. Japan alone has over 73,000 acres producing over 250,000 tons of fruit each year (3.4 tons per acre). Individual trees can live up to 100 years and produce up to 400 pounds of fruit per year. Persimmons are a staple food in the Orient, where they are dried or frozen and consumed all year. The Oriental persimmon is a member of the Ebenaceae family, and is closely related to other persimmons, including D. lotus, the date plus; D. texana, the Texas persimmon and D. virginiana, the Native American persimmon. Found throughout the U.S. from Connecticut to Texas, the American persimmon's fruit is small, seedy, and extremely astringent until fully ripe, but has a delicious flavor. Not widely cultivated, it is a common wildlife food. There are over 200 species in the genus Diospyros. Dios means God, and pyros means food, thus the name means "food of the Gods." In addition to the production of fruit, the wood is especially hard in some species, notably D. ebenum of tropical Asia, which yields ebony. Native D. virginiana is often used for making golf clubs. Commodore Perry brought Oriental persimmons from Japan to the U.S. in 1856. Afterward, large quantities were imported by the United States Department of Agriculture from 1870 through the 1920's. Large numbers of trees were planted in California and the Southeast in the 1930's, but these numbers have declined considerably. Although today, it is still a popular backyard tree. Almost all of the persimmon fruit currently sold in America is grown in California, where there are only about 700 acres in production with average yields of 5 tons per acre. The Oriental persimmon has a diversely shaped fruit, coming in rounded, conical, square, or lobed shapes which are a beautiful yellow to orange or deep red when ripe, and can weigh up to a pound each. The trees are small, usually no more than 20 - 30 feet tall with a rounded crown and large, lustrous, dark green leaves. In autumn, the leaves often turn a bright crimson and, with its orange fruit, is a beautiful sightespecially on a gray, fall day. In the Orient, the fruit is often left to freeze on the tree, which are then picked and eaten like popsicles all winter! The potential market for persimmons appears to be much larger than what is currently being tapped. Persimmon orchards begin to produce in the third or fourth year, with full production reached in 10 years. Under favorable conditions, development costs can be amortized by the tenth year of production. However, the principal deterrent to increased plantings is the lack of consumer awareness and acceptance. The astringency of persimmons has caused many unknowing buyers to never want to try them again after biting into some unripe fruit. The production of non-astringent varieties, coupled with good consumer education through both through the popular press and at the marketplace, is essential for persimmons to gain the popularity in this country that this unique and delicious fruit deserves. Oriental persimmons can be divided into two classes astringent and non-astringent. Astringent varieties gain their astringency from soluble tannins that disappear as the fruit ripens and softens. They will pucker the mouth until completely soft. Non-astringent persimmons, however, can be eaten when still firm, without any astringency whatsoever. Some varieties are astringent if the fruit is not pollinated (parthenocarpic development) and are non-astringent if seeded. Varieties also vary in tree habit, growth, and form. In most cases, dwarf or semi-dwarf varieties are more precocious than vigorous, upright varieties. Giant Fuyu (Fuyugaki means winter persimmon) is a large (220 g), round, flat fruit that ripens to a deep, beautiful red with a blue blush at full maturity. The fruit has excellent flavor and a long shelf life. A vigorous, spreading tree with good fruit set, it produces no female flowers, and is incompatible with D. lotus rootstock. Some parthenocarpic ability (pollination) assures fruit set. It is one of, if not the best, commercial persimmon varietyespecially in the southeast, where it rates highly in all of its characteristics. Ichikikeijiro is a large (250 g), orange-red fruit with good taste, ripening in mid-October. The tree is dwarf and spreading with medium fruit set, and produces only female flowers. The fruit is of very good grade and stores well. This is considered a very promising commercial cultivar. Hanagosho ("flower of the Imperial Place") is an excellent variety, with medium (180 g) quadranted, yellow-orange fruit with excellent taste and good harvesting and storage characteristics. It ripens late. The tree is vigorous and upright and has some male flowers. It is a very good variety from many aspects. Jiro An old cultivar discovered many years ago, with large (250 g), orange-red fruit and good taste. The tree is upright and vigorous with good fruit set, and produces only female blossoms. It ripens in late October, and is still a favorite cultivar in Japan. Suruga is a recently produced Hanagosho X Oku gosho cross from Japan. It has large (220 g), orange-red fruit, very sweet and better even than Giant Fuyu, with a long shelf life. The tree is vigorous and upright with good fruit set, and produces only female flowers. Fruit ripens late November. An excellent cultivar, it prefers a warmer climate. Shogatsu Large, sweet fruit ripening to deep reddish-orange. The tree is medium-size and spreading, and produces lots of male flowers with medium fruit set. Fruit ripens in October, and has long storage capability, but is not as good a quality as other varieties. Hanafuyu ("winter flower") is an obliquely rounded fruit, large (200 g), sweet, juicy, with reddish-orange color. Tree is dwarf, and bears in September and October. Astringent Varieties Saijo ("the very best one") has a small (150 g), elongated, orange- yellow fruit with superb taste. The tree is vigorous with spreading upright form, has no male flowers, and has good fruit set. Fruit is of the best quality and astringency is easily removed. The unique shape and best taste of all make this an excellent variety. Tanenashi ("without seed") is a very early U.S. introduction, it is common throughout the southeast. The orange-colored fruit is large and conical in shape. The tree is dwarf and very heavy bearing, the fruit always being seedless. Matures in September and October. Hachiya makes up about 90 percent of the orchards in California. While astringent until fully ripe, the fruit is large (200 g), oblong, conical, and deep orange-red. It is usually seedless but if pollinated, dark coloration appears around the seed. Pollinators are not needed for good production. It has a good spreading tree form, and good fruit set. Appealing fruit color and taste. Eureka is a heavy-producing, medium-sized, flat-shaped, extremely high-quality red persimmon. The tree is relatively small and is self-fruitful. The fruit contains seeds normally. Eureka has proven to be the most reliably producing persimmon. Tamopan is moderately productive with very large, orange, flat-shaped persimmons and a distinctive ring constriction near the middle of the fruit. The tree is vigorous and upright. Oku-gosho is medium-size (180 g), orange-yellow color, rounded shape, and of good quality. A vigorous, spreading tree with good fruit set, fruit ripens in September. Hira-tanenaeshi ("flat seedless") is a medium-size (200 g), flat and squarish fruit that is orange-yellow and has excellent taste. Fruit ripens early and astringency is easily removed. Tree is spreading and vigorous. Very popular in Japan, it is not cold hardy. Korean is a medium-size (180 g), yellow-orange, rounded fruit with good taste. The tree is medium-size and spreading, and is quite productive. Fruit ripens early in September. The tree is cold hardy. Yamatohykume has very large (300 g), red-orange fruit. The tree form is upright, and fruit ripens in late October. Flesh is often chocolate or cinnamon in color due to pollination. Gionbo has extremely large (up to 400 g), conical, orange fruit with very good taste, but often cracks at the tips. The tree is very heavy bearing with vigorous and spreading shape. Great Wall was introduced from China by J. Russell Smith. It has small (150 g), deep orange-red, squarish fruit with very sweet taste. The semi- dwarf tree is spreading and extremely heavy bearing. Fruit ripens mid August through September. The tree is very cold hardy, down to at least 0 degrees F. Oriental persimmons are divided into three flowering groups. Some varieties bear only pistillate (female) flowers, while some bear both pistillate and staminate (male) flowers. Most of the common commercial cultivars occur in the first group, producing fruit parthenocarpically without pollination. Pollination does not necessarily insure heavy fruiting, but may be necessary in some varieties to promote fruit set. Good pollinator varieties are Gailey and Gosho. In "pollination constant" persimmons, the flesh remains clear regardless of seed formation. In "pollination variant" varieties, the production of seeds is associated with dark tannin coloration of the flesh surrounding the seed. If no seeds are present, the flesh remains clear. In astringent pollination variant varieties, the dark flesh surrounding the seeds becomes non-astringent, while the clear flesh in the rest of the fruit remains astringent until ripe. The production of dark flesh is sometimes a deterrent to sales in the marketplace. Three species of Diospyros are used commonly for rootstocks, each providing different characteristics. In the east, D. virginiana is the most commonly used rootstock, often as top worked seedlings found growing wild in the field. Though good in some situations, D. virginiana has a very strong tap root with little side branching and, thus, transplants poorly. D. virginiana also is subject to excessive suckering, and is susceptible to Cephalosporium wilt. D. kaki provides a better rootstock because of a more fibrous root system. It is not as cold hardy as D. virginiana, and is not easily available in the east. In California, the most common understock in use today is D. lotus. It produces uniform seedlings with little suckering, and is adaptable to a number of soil conditions. However, some varieties, such as Giant Fuyu, are incompatible on D. lotus. Almost all Oriental persimmons are propagated by grafting onto seedling rootstocks. Reproduction by cuttings has been tried, but is not very successful. Rootstocks for persimmons are grown from seed, and the seeds can be planted out after removal from the fruit. Though not necessary in hot climates, typically the seed is stratified at 45 degrees for 60-90 days, and then germinated in the greenhouse, or planted out in the field. Germination of only 25-35 percent is common. Transplanting of liners eliminates skips in the row, and by using seed beds, produces better laterally branched root systems. Plants are set 8-12 inches apart in the row, and rows are spaced 3-4 inches apart. One season's growth is usually needed for rootstock to obtain 1/4 inch to 3/8 inch caliper necessary for grafting. Grafting is most successful during the dormant season and just as the sap begins to flow in the spring. Cleft grafting is also practiced for topworking larger sized stock, especially native D. virginiana seedlings in the field. Budding is successful in August and September using T-bud or chip bud with plastic wrapping and mature wood from the present season's growth. Seasonal timing of budding is very important; at this season, the bud heals in and stays dormant until the following spring at which time the rootstock above the bud is cut off and the bud pushed with the new year's growth. Oriental persimmons are adapted to a wide variety of subtropical and warm temperate climate conditions. In the east, they can be grown from coastal Virginia throughout much of the coastal plain to Texas, and on the Pacific coast from southern California north to Oregon. They are deciduous and enter a dormant period, and most varieties seem to have little or no chilling requirement to produce uniform budbreak. They bloom late enough, in April to miss spring frosts in most areas. Mature trees can withstand 10 degrees F., and some varieties, such as Great Wall, can survive even colder temperatures. A long, warm growing season is required for fruit maturation, though this varies by variety. Astringency is reduced by increasing temperature, and cool summers cause improper fruit maturation, including low sugar content and poor color. Though Oriental persimmons can be grown on a wide variety of soil types, they prefer a deep, fertile, well-drained sandy loam, of pH 6.0-7.0. They will produce better than most other fruit trees on heavier clay soils, but fruit drop and lower yields are sometimes associated. High organic content is desirable, providing increased nutrients and moisture holding capacity to sandy soils and better soil structure to heavy soils. Choose a site that allows for good air drainage to protect the trees from freeze damage to the wood. Planting of nursery stock should be done during the dormant season. Care should be taken to avoid having roots dry out if bare rootstock is used; container-grown stock can be transplanted most any time during the year if adequate moisture is provided after planting. Dig a hole large enough to accept all of the root system; broken or extra long roots should be pruned. Do not place manure or fertilizer in the hole or fertilize at all at planting time. Place the tree upright and plant at the same height it was grown at in the nursery, with the bud union above the ground. Soil should be firm around the roots, and irrigated thoroughly to saturation after planting. Weed control is essential within 2-3 feet of the trunk, and this area must be kept clean by shallow cultivation or mulch. A cover crop of grass or legumes can be grown between orchard rows for the first several years of orchard life. Irrigation is essential to the establishment of a successful orchard, and will be important to fruit set and development. Though variable due to soil conditions (sandy soil requiring more and heavy soils less), trees should be thoroughly saturated at least once per week during establishment if dry conditions persist and no rainfall occurs. Soil should be soaked several feet deep underneath the canopy. In dry summer climates, drip or mini-sprinkler under the tree irrigation systems will be important for full fruit maturation. In the eastern U.S., with humid, wet summers, irrigation will be needed usually only during orchard establishment and occasionally during prolonged dry spells in the spring. Availability of moisture determines fruit quantity and size. However, too much moisture during fruit ripening may cause skin splitting and cracking, and prolonged soil saturation may cause root damage. Application of a slow-release, complete (19-5-9 with trace elements) fertilizer is suggested at a rate of 1 pound per year of age up to a maximum of 10 pounds per year for mature trees. After planting, trees should not be fertilized until April or May the first year, and thereafter, 1/2 of the required amount spread evenly under the tree in January and the rest applied in June. Micronutrient deficiencies can be corrected with foliar applications. Over-fertilization will promote overly rapid growth and excessive fruit drop. Young trees should be headed back to 3 feet when planted, and the trees should be trained to form a modified leader system with well-spaced laterals. Stake the tree in areas of strong winds. A strong framework of 3 to 5 main limbs spaced 1 foot apart should be developed, pinching off the rest of the vigorous shoot growth during the first one or two years of growth. Only light pruning during the dormant season should be necessary once the trees begin production, primarily of weak, shaded out or crossed over branches. Because flowers are borne on current season's growth, moderate pruning helps to stimulate new growth, but excessive pruning will promote long shoots that break and too much vigorous growth that causes fruit drop. Light pruning helps keep trees producing well and structurally strong to support heavy crops. On some heavy-bearing varieties, it may be necessary to thin fruit or brace limbs accordingly. Fruit drop is caused by excessive vegetative growth. Persimmons do not need large amounts of fertilizer. Too much fertilization coupled with optimum soil moisture can produce excess growth, as can too much pruning, thus causing more fruit drop than in a slower growing tree. Young trees drop fruit more, especially under stress, than older trees. Cutting back on pruning and nitrogen can reduce this growth and thus fruit drop. Oriental persimmons are not affected by many pests. Scale insects can be a problem but they can be controlled with a dormant soil spray. Citrus mealybugs (Coccus species) can sometimes be a problem. Citrus nematodes can occur on persimmons, but do not cause much damage. Crown gall (Bacterium tumefacien) can be serious, and can be avoided by not planting infected stock and not damaging trees, thus avoiding potential infection sites. Leaf spot (Cercospora kaki), Cephlosporium wilt, and anthracnose (Gloeosporium kaki) are also problems, especially on D. virginiana rootstock as well as D. kaki. These can be treated by systemic fungicides, and mite insecticide applications to reduce vector insect populations. Persimmons generally ripen from late August until early December, depending on climate and region. Persimmons are harvested by clipping, leaving the calyx and a short piece of the stem attached to the fruit. Fruit is picked when it has attained the proper color, but is still firm. If picked before fully colored, the fruit will often ripen poorly or unevenly, and be harder to market. Careful handling is very important to minimize bruising. Bruising causes brown spots that decrease marketability. Using picking buckets (not bags) and rigid bins for transporting fruit in from the orchard will reduce damage. Persimmons are typically graded for size and quality and packed for shipping in 1 to 2- layer lugs, and sometimes with plastic tray packs in 1 to 2- layer boxes. Fruit may be ripened in a warm environment (60 degrees to 70 degrees F) for 1-3 weeks. Fruit may be stored at 32 degrees to 34 degrees F to extend the market period for 1-4 months. Astringent varieties have a longer shelf life than non-astringent varieties. Instructions for how to eat and use fruit should be included in packaging and displayed at the groceries. There are many untapped local markets for persimmons, besides shipments to larger urban markets. Astringent persimmons that lose their astringency as they ripen can sometimes be slow to ripen. The process can be hastened by freezing the fruit for 24 hours. When thawed, they are both soft and free of astringency, and ready to eat. An apple can be placed with the persimmons in a plastic bag or among the ripening fruit. Ethylene gas released by the apple will speed up the ripening process. Periodic flushing with 70-90 percent CO-2 in a sealed chamber for 1-4 days will also remove astringency while maintaining fruit firmness, and can prolong shelf life if done after cold storage. Fruit treated in this manner should be tested periodically for astringency reduction by placing a cut slice on dry filter paper previously treated with 5 percent ferric chloride. The more intense the color produced, the more astringent the fruit remains. Persimmons are delicious whether eaten fresh, dried, or cooked. As a fresh fruit, they are unsurpassed. The taste of a fully ripe persimmon is superb, incomparable to any other fruit. Persimmons can be used fresh in salads, appetizers, or as a dessert or topping, chilled or frozen. They are excellent in ice cream, with yogurt, or in smoothies. Cooked or baked, they are delicious in cakes, breads, puddings, cookies, cobblers, pies, and pastries. Persimmons also make wonderful preserves and jams. Freezing is a popular method of preserving persimmons. They can be peeled before freezing and frozen whole or pureed in plastic containers. In this manner, they will keep a year or more. Drying is the other principal method of storage, especially in the Orient. Persimmons may be dried when ripe and still firm. After being peeled, and either sun dried, dried in a commercial dryer or in an oven on low heat, they are stored in air tight containers in a cool, dark place. Persimmon pulp may also be spread on foil in a flat pan and dried into jerky. During drying, sugar crystals form over the surface of the fruit, creating an appealing product. Dried persimmons are high in dextrose and similar to dried peaches in food value. An excellent set of recipes can be found in "Persimmons for Everyone," by Eugene and Mary E. Griffith, published by the North American Fruit Explorers, c/o Dorothy Nichols, Route 2, Box 13, Arcola, MO 65603. ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Dec CRFG S.D. Holiday Potluck Dinner Fri. Dec. 7 From: Dawn Martin Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 11:01:49 -0800 (PST) December 17th, 2010 - Holiday Potluck Dinner FRIDAY 6:30 pm - Room 101 Casa Del Prado, Balboa Park Season's Greetings to all of our CRFG members and BEST WISHES to you and your families. This month's meeting will be our Holiday Potluck Celebration. This is a highlight for our Chapter and is an event we look forward to each December. This year our celebration and potluck event will be on Friday night December 17, 2010. The event begins at 6:30 P.M. We would love to have you come join in our festivities, good food and good company and hope you can make this wonderful celebration of the season. The Chapter will be providing roast turkey and members who attend are asked to bring a dish of your choice of side dishes, desserts or beverages for all to share. (Thank You to Dave Sohn, Dan Timmes and Jan Tish who offered to cook for this event.) Please bring a note card with your dish describing what you brought, and if you would like to share your recipe with the Chapter, that would be Great! We could post the recipes to the Chapter website on our forums, or perhaps make a Chapter recipe book at some time in the future. (This could possibly be a fundraising item at our community outreach events.) Traditionally some of our members have participated in a gift exchange during this celebration and we would like to encourage anyone who would like to participate. This is entirely optional and anyone who brings a gift will also take home a gift of their choosing as they are selected at random during the gift exchange. If you choose to participate, the item you bring is entirely up to you. It could be an item that you bought, made, or grew. It could be an item you might use in the house or garden, a bowl of fruit, something that you cooked such as jam, jellies, cookies, or --- The gift you bring is your choice, the spirit is in the action of giving, not in the item or the dollars it cost. It is suggested by the Board that the value of the gift be kept at approximately $10.00 or under. We are planning to disclose a new membership benefit at this celebration, David Long has offered to have his choir sing a few carols at the meeting (Thank you David) and we are planning a few other surprises at this meeting. We hope that as many of you can join us as possible! Pruning and dormant spraying season is soon to arrive. Do not prune too early as this may stimulate new growth. Begin about mid-December and try to complete your pruning on deciduous fruit trees by the end of February. I have several presentations and articles on our Chapter website on pruning deciduous fruit trees. Visit our website to view these for helpful information. Dormant spray stone fruit 2-3 times about 2 weeks apart using a fungicide (lime-sulfur, daconil, or copper based fungicide) to help control peach leaf curl, shot hole fungus and brown rot. Combine with an oil (volk oil) to help reduce overwintering insect populations. Apples and pears also benefit from dormant sprays. Remember to save your cuttings and scions for the January scion exchange and for the Propagation Committee. (See attached article on how to save your scions if you are unsure how to save them until the Jan. meeting.) We are not allowed to propagate patented fruit tree varieties, so please do not bring any patented varieties to Jan. meeting. Contributors of Plants and Goodies: Thank You to the members who brought items for the refreshment table. I apologize if I missed the names of anyone who contributed. If anyone brings items to the meetings to share, please make sure we have your name on the contributor list so that we can give you proper recognition and thanks. Thank You: Eddie Cresensia, Eleanor Bregman, Kathy Blankinship, and Alice and Dick Snow. Our Chapter has made some significant progress in many areas this past year. Thank You to the many volunteers who have helped to move our Chapter forward! We are hoping to continue this momentum in 2011 and I hope that I can count on all of our members to work together for the good of our Chapter. Please pitch in and volunteer whenever possible, we need your participation and help. I am looking forward to seeing many of you at the December Holiday meeting. Happy Holidays to ALL! Suggestion Tree Comment: "No electioneering on nights of votes (i.e., No Posters). Put it in the bylaws if necessary. This is not High School!" Reply: Campaigning or "electioneering" is not a high school practice and this occurs at any publically held election. The night of the vote is realistically the only time that CRFG Chapter members who wish to show their support or opposition to a proposal or candidate can contact other members as a group. Since this issue has not been addressed in the Chapter, we would like to get members opinions on this comment prior to making any policy. We are asking Chapter members to please help us know how you feel on this subject and put your comments in the Suggestion Tree, or mail them to our Chapter's P.O. Box or contact any Board member with your opinion. Fruit Tree Pruning Short Course As mentioned last month, I be teaching a 6 week course at Southwestern College on fruit tree pruning in 2011 (Jan. 13 - Feb. 26 Thurs. night 6-8 P.M. and Sat. afternoon 3:30-5:30). You can enroll at the Southwestern College website at www.swccd.edu or by calling SW College at (619) 421-6700. Saving and Storing Scions It is CRITICAL that all scions (cuttings) are completely dormant when they are collected and stored. In this context, dormancy means that the buds which will break open to produce next seasons growth (flowers, leaves, and stems ) are not growing and are completely encased in bud scales. If these buds have broken open and new growth is occurring, the scion cannot be used or saved! Where some buds are open, yet others are still dormant, the portion of the branch or scion with open buds can be cut off and the remaining dormant scion can still be stored and used. If leaves are still present from 2010 growth, these leaves can simply be stripped away prior to storing the collected scion. It is not the presence of last season's leaves that determine if the scion is dormant, but rather if the buds have broken dormancy and have begun growing. Because some very low chill fruit varieties begin growing very early in January, you may want to collect and store your scions before the first couple of weeks in January. 1. Cuttings should be about the size of a pencil (6-8 long and 1/8 to in diameter). 2. Make a slanted cut at the top of your scions; this will point "up" in the growth direction. Make a straight cut at the bottom of your scions. 3. Properly label each of your bundled cuttings. 4. Do not allow your cuttings to dry out, store them in damp paper towels (or damp newspaper) in plastic bags in the refrigerator. 5. Check your scions every few weeks. Remove and throw away any scions or cuttings that have begun to sprout as these will produce ethylene gas and will cause any still dormant scions to grow. Vice Chair Notes by Jim Neitzel January, February and March programs are hard to vary a lot, thus the traditional scion exchange, followed by a February program on grafting techniques. Hopefully we can put together another great cherimoya event in March! As soon as the Xmas stuff clears out in stores and nurseries, the bare-root stock comes in. Act fast! Save some money! January and February and its pretty much over. Avoid the higher chill requiring cultivars. Pruning: As soon as your grapes and deciduous fruit trees have lost most of their leaves, you can prune them and apply the first spray treatment. Grapes and trees requiring minimal chill, break dormancy so fast especially if winters cold is interrupted by hot spells. Please dont forget to gather appropriate scion wood and cuttings for our January exchange! - Feliz ano Nuevo! Tom Del Hotal mailto:Chair@CRFGSanDiego.org (619) 454-2628 <><><><> Announcements And Web Pages To Consider <><><><> San Diego Chapter California Rare Fruit Growers Meeting: Where: Casa del Prado Building Room 101, Balboa Park When: Fourth Wednesday Of Each Month (Except December) See: http://www.crfgsandiego.org http://nc.crfgsandiego.org For North County CRFG Chapter Meeting http://www.crfg.org/chapters.html For information about ALL CRFG chapters. <><><> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HawaiiFruitlovers/ <><><> [HawaiiFruitlovers] Digest Numbers xx, yy HawaiiFruitlovers@yahoogroups.com To: HawaiiFruitlovers@yahoogroups.com> 1a. Surinam cherries Posted by: foodiesleuth cubanwahine@hawaii.rr.com __ 1b. Re: Surinam cherries Posted by: ken love ken@mycoffee.net __ 1c. Re: Surinam cherries Posted by: foodiesleuth cubanwahine@hawaii.rr.com __ 1d. Re: Surinam cherries Posted by: ken love ken@mycoffee.net __ 1a. Re: Surinam cherries Posted by: owanafarm owanafarm@yahoo.com.mx __ 1b. 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